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Pro Bot said:
I almost feel like the Flashpoint stuff splits off into a separate parallel world.

...........[Reset Timeline]
...............\\\\\^///////
[Earth-89] [Earth-1] [Earth-97]
[--Flashpoint--] [--Flashpoint--]
.......................^
.....[2004 Tomato Incident]
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I don't understand that "graphic"

"2004 Tomato Incident" lol
 
What else do you want me to call Barry's changes in 2004? It's just the plot of The Flash visualised with fan-attributed logic to explain continuity.

1. Barry changes time in 2004.

2. Creates a Flashpoint reality that splices Earth-1 and Earth-89.

3. Barry changes time in 2004 again.

4. Changes the Flashpoint timeline into a mix of Earth-1 and Earth-97. This is where Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom must occur.

5. Because it's the linking reality, Earth-1 is specifically changed into the DCU and Earth-89 is let go.
 
Pro Bot said:
What else do you want me to call Barry's changes in 2004? It's just the plot of The Flash visualised with fan-attributed logic to explain continuity.

1. Barry changes time in 2004.

2. Creates a Flashpoint reality that splices Earth-1 and Earth-89.

3. Barry changes time in 2004 again.

4. Changes the Flashpoint timeline into a mix of Earth-1 and Earth-97. This is where Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom must occur.

5. Because it's the linking reality, Earth-1 is specifically changed into the DCU and Earth-89 is let go.
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Don't get mad, I understand that, it is just that the name seems funny to me
 
What I understand you are all trying to say is

Post-Crisis/Pre-Flashpoint Multiverse
Earth-1 - DCEU
Earth-789 - Burtonverse & Donnerverse
Earth- 97 - Schumacherverse
Earth-?? - (Batman has DCU Batman actor face)
(More Earths)

Flashpoint Multiverse
Earth-1 - (Mix of Pre-Flashpoint Earth-1 and Earth-789, possibly even more Earths)
Earth-789 - Donnerverse (Earth-789 extirpated of its Batman elements, that have been transferred to Earth-1)
(More Earths, probably also mixed)

Post-Flashpoint Multiverse
Earth-1 (?) - (Mix of Pre-Flashpoint Earth-1 and Earth-97, possibly even more Earths)
Earth-?? - DCU (Mix of Pre-Flashpoint Earth-1 and Earth-??)
Earth-??(2) - (Batman has Ben Affleck's face)
(More Earths)
 
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selfishmisery said:
Okay.

(Earth-??)
Man of Steel
Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice
Suicide Squad
Wonder Woman
Zack Snyder's Justice League
Shazam

(Post-Crisis Earth-1)
Aquaman
Birds of Prey
Wonder Woman 1984
The Suicide Squad
Peacemaker: Season 1
Black Adam
Shazam: Fury of the Gods
The Flash

(Post-Flashpoint Earth-1)
Unknown and select events from prior films might remain canon(???)
Blue Beetle
Creature Commandos: Season 1
Superman: Legacy
Waller: Season 1
The Brave and the Bold
Peacemaker: Season 2
Swamp Thing
Arkham: Season 1
Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow
Paradise Lost: Season 1
The Authority
Booster Gold: Season 1
Lanterns: Season 1

(Post-Flashpoint Earth-??) <--- SPLIT from New Earth-1 as a result of Flashpoint
Elements of Man of Steel, Batman v. Superman, Suicide Squad, Zack Snyder's Justice League and Aquaman occurred;
Bruce Wayne was born earlier and resembled George Clooney (who had his Earth-97 Batman's history swapped/merged into Earth-89's Batman history on a separate post-Flashpoint Earth)
The Flash (ending)
Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
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100 percent agree with this personally except i place josstice league pre-crisis and post-crisis is zsjl
 
Jozaca said:
Don't get mad, I understand that, it is just that the name seems funny to me
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Yeah, no, it's fine, I'm not mad or anything. I just genuinely don't know a short appropriate name to describe Barry moving potatoes. Blame The Flash for having a pretty ridiculous plot, I guess.

Zeitschiene said:
???



Why "must"?
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1. The assumption is that the DCU isn't the new Earth-1.
2. Because it takes place after The Flash but is not set in the DCU, thus takes place in the DCEU Clooney-Verse.
 
Zeitschiene said:
???
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Since instead of returning to Ben Affleck's face, Batman goes to George Clooney's face, and some actors are going to be kept in the DCU from the DCEU I assume that it is implied that any character whose actor changes has just changed faces with an alternate version of themselves, and the new faces (literally) of the leads on the new DCU were already somewhere in the old multiverse.
 
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Pro Bot said:
2. Because it takes place after The Flash but is not set in the DCU, thus takes place in the DCEU Clooney-Verse.
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First of all, I agree, I too would place it in the Post-Flashpoint Earth (we really need a name for it, I think someone called it Earth-1F, maybe that or Earth-97F?). But why can't it take place in the DCEU/Earth-1? I mean that Universe wasn't destroyed after The Flash, Barry just arrived in a different Universe as far as I understand it. Earth-1 with Batfleck and co, now just without a Barry Allen, might still exist somewhere out there.
 
I feel like we're really deep in hypotheticals at this point.
James Gunn is smart enough of a writer to work around things like this so I trust he has some explanation for this in some form or another. For fans at least, modern audiences won't give a damn so that's not gonna be presented to them in a way where they have to backtrack for more context.
 
Rojinn said:
someone called it Earth-1F
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That was me :)

If we say that everything that happens post The Flash is set on Earth-1F, how do we handle Flashbacks in like Blue Beetle? Are they on Earth-1 or Earth-1F? And what about the Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom Special? Is that Earth-1 or Earth-1F?

selfishmisery said:
I feel like we're really deep in hypotheticals at this point.
James Gunn is smart enough of a writer to work around things like this so I trust he has some explanation for this in some form or another. For fans at least, modern audiences won't give a damn so that's not gonna be presented to them in a way where they have to backtrack for more context.
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Well, isn't that the whole thing of the forum/timeline? We try to make sense of Movies and co
 
Zeitschiene said:
That was me :)

If we say that everything that happens post The Flash is set on Earth-1F, how do we handle Flashbacks in like Blue Beetle? Are they on Earth-1 or Earth-1F? And what about the Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom Special? Is that Earth-1 or Earth-1F?


Well, isn't that the whole thing of the forum/timeline? We try to make sense of Movies and co
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Flashbacks are Earth-1F. The comic tie-in is Earth-1F.
 
Zeitschiene said:
Well, isn't that the whole thing of the forum/timeline? We try to make sense of Movies and co
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With this I feel like the answer is inevitable. Where as regards to whether or not, for example, Gotham Knights is set in the same alternate timeline(?) as Superman & Lois will most likely always be left to the imagination.

I kinda feel like waiting.
 
@selfishmisery judging from your timeline I guess you think both Blue Beetle and Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom are set on DCEU Earth-1, not the Post-Flashpoint Timeline, right? 'Cause you didn't put the Post-Flashpoint Universe Tag on then. Might I ask why?
 
Honestly, with all of this debate about whether Blue Beetle and/or TLK take place in which timeline, for a while my point of view has been that, if they take place in the same universe (because I believe Blue Beetle takes place in it's own universe which would merge with the main DCEU into the DCU even if it is not 100% official) it would be the DCEU, either if they happen before or after The Flash. I mean, if James Gunn by any reason says that they are set post-Flashpoint I would obviously listen to him, but that is probably not going to happen along with any possible answer to this debate since a new franchise is beginning and it won't matter to them anymore. A part of why I think of this being the truth is because the fate of DCEU's Earth-1 hasn't been confirmed to this day, so I think that Barry just created a branch timeline which merged with another universe simply because that is how time travel worked in that universe, Earth-1 would continue to exist and The Lost Kingdom would continue to happen in here if after The Flash (and possibly Blue Beetle too, but because of declarations by Gunn and the director it seems to take place in it's own universe. That doesn't change that, in either case it takes place before or after, I would watch Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom before The Flash in a viewing order. Thoughts?
 
ThoughtTie24110 said:
Honestly, with all of this debate about whether Blue Beetle and/or TLK take place in which timeline, for a while my point of view has been that, if they take place in the same universe (because I believe Blue Beetle takes place in it's own universe which would merge with the main DCEU into the DCU even if it is not 100% official) it would be the DCEU, either if they happen before or after The Flash. I mean, if James Gunn by any reason says that they are set post-Flashpoint I would obviously listen to him, but that is probably not going to happen along with any possible answer to this debate since a new franchise is beginning and it won't matter to them anymore. A part of why I think of this being the truth is because the fate of DCEU's Earth-1 hasn't been confirmed to this day, so I think that Barry just created a branch timeline which merged with another universe simply because that is how time travel worked in that universe, Earth-1 would continue to exist and The Lost Kingdom would continue to happen in here if after The Flash (and possibly Blue Beetle too, but because of declarations by Gunn and the director it seems to take place in it's own universe. That doesn't change that, in either case it takes place before or after, I would watch Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom before The Flash in a viewing order. Thoughts?
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I dream of seeing the complete timeline of the DC Universe, with all the names of the lands and branches that have enriched this incredible multiverse. What a joy to discover the list of studios that have marked the history of comics: Paradox Press, Wildstorm, Will Eisner Library and Vertigo. What a shame they all disappeared or were shut down by DC. I would love to reread their masterpieces.
 
Bliddry said:
I dream of seeing the complete timeline of the DC Universe, with all the names of the lands and branches that have enriched this incredible multiverse. What a joy to discover the list of studios that have marked the history of comics: Paradox Press, Wildstorm, Will Eisner Library and Vertigo. What a shame they all disappeared or were shut down by DC. I would love to reread their masterpieces.
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Isn't fables become public dominion?
 
Megatron said:
Les fables ne deviennent-elles pas une domination publique ?
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Ce sont des films dont j'aimerais savoir où ils se situent dans l'univers DC, ce qui Terre m'intrigue A History of Violence 2005, Red 2010-2013, Loser 2010, Stardust 2007, The Spirit 2008, V for Vendetta 2005, A History of Violence 2005, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen réécrivez-le en anglais
 

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