DC Extended Universe / DC Universe - Timeline

[Rojinn]

Anyone knows why Wikipedia the Bane and Deathstroke Movie is listed on the DCU article? Is there a reason other than Wikipedia being Wikipedia?

 

[barryh]

Anyone knows why Wikipedia the Bane and Deathstroke is listed on the DCU article?

They're exploring a lot of ideas for movies, some of which may get made.

 

[selfishmisery]

Anyone knows why Wikipedia the Bane and Deathstroke is listed on the DCU article? Is there a reason other than Wikipedia being Wikipedia?

It's a movie WITH Bane and Deathstroke that's supposedly in the works, maybe as antagonists but not main characters (I strongly doubt they will be at least). And it's not gonna be called "Bane & Deathstroke". That's new articles lying or stretching the truth out of context.

 

[Rojinn]

Was more asking about if this movie with the two is set in the DCU, 'cause I don't remember any reports stating that

 

[selfishmisery]

Was more asking about if this movie with the two is set in the DCU, 'cause I don't remember any reports stating that

I have no idea, just plans for Bane and Deathstroke that are unspecified.

My guess they will be in Teen Titans and/or Brave & the Bold.

 

[woodlark_289]

Was more asking about if this movie with the two is set in the DCU, 'cause I don't remember any reports stating that

i think its mostly been implied, gunn has always brought it up in terms of future dcu plans and he's never specified that it will be elseworlds

 

[Pro Bot]

The DCU is the NEW Earth-1 post-Flashpoint.
Meanwhile, the DCEU's new numeration in the multiverse I don't have knowledge of. Gunn hasn't confirmed the specifics of what is different about this current stage of the multiverse yet.

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While I don't accept this designation currently, I think I speculated that that could be the case.

(Don't take the reality numbers too seriously)

Pre-Crisis
Earth-38 - DC Extended Universe (JL?)
Earth-89 - Burtonverse

Post-Crisis/Pre-Flashpoint
Earth-1 - DC Extended Universe (ZSJL?)
Earth-89 - Burtonverse

Flashpoint
Earth-1 - DC Extended Universe (Keaton)

Post-Flashpoint
Earth-1 - DC Universe
Earth-38 - DC Extended Universe (Clooney)

In that sense, the DC Universe is technically a sequel to the DC Extended Universe in that both it and the Clooney-Verse are valid realities spinning off.

 

[woodlark_289]

In that sense, the DC Universe is technically a sequel to the DC Extended Universe in that both it and the Clooney-Verse are valid realities spinning off.

definitely agree with this

 

[Pro Bot]

Well, it was just a thought. I guess the circumstances of Blue Beetle happening existed in the DCEU before The Flash, hence why similar events would occur in both universes.

I mean, I'm not really subscribed to linking the DCEU and DCU together, but it's somewhat possible I guess. Not too outlandish either, since it provides a justification for Gunn being a biiiit selfish with keeping his characters around.

 

[Pro Bot]

While I don't accept this designation currently, I think I speculated that that could be the case.

(Don't take the reality numbers too seriously)

Pre-Crisis
Earth-38 - DC Extended Universe (JL?)
Earth-89 - Burtonverse

Post-Crisis/Pre-Flashpoint
Earth-1 - DC Extended Universe (ZSJL?)
Earth-89 - Burtonverse

Flashpoint
Earth-1 - DC Extended Universe (Keaton)

Post-Flashpoint
Earth-1 - DC Universe
Earth-38 - DC Extended Universe (Clooney)

In that sense, the DC Universe is technically a sequel to the DC Extended Universe in that both it and the Clooney-Verse are valid realities spinning off.

Also, I always thought Clooney would be a decent Frank Miller Batman given the right material... I feel that's controversial to say though.

 

[UltimateWhovian7]

Going back to novel discourse (sorry fellas). James Gunn has said that the DCU will be multimedia, spanning films, tv, animation, games etc. How are we supposed to keep track of what's canon and what's not if anything that gets made, he turns around and disqualifies? Isn't the whole point of releasing tie-in media building on his own idea? The fact he greenlit a novel for his film thst he doesn't even deem canon is nonsense to me.

 

[UltimateWhovian7]

It seems that it's even slightly referenced in the film. Clark's relationship to the Justice Gang, the 'irradication' of all kryptonite. I imagine it's because he wants to use Metallo down the line but if that's the case, why make the novel in the first place if you're going to retcon it? That devalues all extended media yet to come.

 

[TheVultureKing]

How are we supposed to keep track of what's canon and what's not

By confirming what's not so there isn't confusion, which he's following well so far. We'll see how quickly he confirms that media IS canon whenever that multimedia starts releasing, but with the way he's been holding on canon it'd prob be big part of their announcements.

 

[selfishmisery]

Peacemaker 2x06 starts NOW

 

[selfishmisery]

Spoiler: MAJOR Peacemaker SPOILERS (S2 Ep 6)

Not gonna label it Earth-X for now. I'll wait.

 

[Pro Bot]

If I can make a suggestion for the viewing order...

...
SHAZAM! - Superhero Hooky
Arrow 8x08, "Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Four"
Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn)
...

I personally feel that, for completion's sake, it'd make sense to add. I guess Barry just stayed in the Speed-Force for the remainder of the Crisis before leaving onto the Post-Crisis Earth-1 where he magically merged with his counterpart because... uh, the Speed-Force. They did confirm that's how he got his name.

 

[Pro Bot]

Another thing, just a small viewing order correction:

Zack Snyder's Justice League
Justice League: Mercedes Benz Presents: Fast Food
Aquaman - Undertow
Justice League: Mercedes Benz Presents: Joyride

 

[selfishmisery]

If I can make a suggestion for the viewing order...



I personally feel that, for completion's sake, it'd make sense to add. I guess Barry just stayed in the Speed-Force for the remainder of the Crisis before leaving onto the Post-Crisis Earth-1 where he magically merged with his counterpart because... uh, the Speed-Force. They did confirm that's how he got his name.

I completely forgot DCEU Barry got his hero name from Arrowverse Barry.

 

[selfishmisery]

Another thing, just a small viewing order correction:

Hmm, no? The Aquaman novel opens and ends with him completing his journey to visit his dad again, which is where he was going at the end of the Snyder Cut.

 

[Pro Bot]

Hmm, no? The Aquaman novel opens and ends with him completing his journey to visit his dad again, which is where he was going at the end of the Snyder Cut.

The Justice League tie-in is set DURING (Zack Snyder's) Justice League.

 

[selfishmisery]

The Justice League tie-in is set DURING (Zack Snyder's) Justice League.

My mistake, I forgot about that was about Barry and Bruce.

 

[Pro Bot]

I completely forgot DCEU Barry got his hero name from Arrowverse Barry.

It definitely creates a ton of confusion since, apart from celestial beings, Barry is pretty much the only one to survive the Crisis. Even the Paragons would technically be in new Earth-Prime bodies, however that's supposed to work.

 

[selfishmisery]

It definitely creates a ton of confusion since, apart from celestial beings, Barry is pretty much the only one to survive the Crisis. Even the Paragons would technically be in new Earth-Prime bodies, however that's supposed to work.

Like I said, in some years from now, we need a guidebook for this multiverse and the animated one too...

 

[Pro Bot]

https://ew.com/james-gunn-explains-peacemaker-earth-x-twist-gi-robot-11819862Earth-X name confirmation.

 

[selfishmisery]

https://ew.com/james-gunn-explains-peacemaker-earth-x-twist-gi-robot-11819862Earth-X name confirmation.

You spoiled it so now I have to change it…

 

[Pro Bot]

I assumed that you were waiting for confirmation on the reality number... everyone predicted that ages ago, to be fair.

 

[selfishmisery]

I assumed that you were waiting for confirmation on the reality number... everyone predicted that ages ago, to be fair.

You're fine.

But anyways, I doubt it's like...Earth-2 = Earth-X. Gunn even says in that interview and here is the numbers he gave don't matter, and "Earth-1" and "Earth-2" are just his simplified version.

 

[Pro Bot]

I would say that the DCU isn't quite confirmed to be Earth-1 at the moment. It probably will in the future, but for now and the next few years, that's still the DCEU.

 

[selfishmisery]

I would say that the DCU isn't quite confirmed to be Earth-1 at the moment. It probably will in the future, but for now and the next few years, that's still the DCEU.

We've had like 3 iterations of this multiverse if that's the case.

1.) Pre-Crisis: Smallville S1-10 + S11 comics to Arrowverse's Crisis on Infinite Earths (around 4125 Earths + 8 "adjacent" Earths (Earth-1A, Earth-2A, Earth-19A, Earth-27A, Earth-32A, Earth-38A, Earth-XA and Earth-167A aka Smallville's "Earth-2".)
2.) Post-Crisis (a little over 100 Earths, the exact amount unknown but much less than before)
3.) Post-Flashpoint (100 Earths at most)

 

[selfishmisery]

We've had like 3 iterations of this multiverse if that's the case.

1.) Pre-Crisis: Smallville S1-10 + S11 comics to Arrowverse's Crisis on Infinite Earths (around 4125 Earths)
2.) Post-Crisis (a little over 100 Earths, the exact amount unknown but much less than before)
3.) Post-Flashpoint (100 Earths at most)

IMO The Earth-4125 Red Death thing I think is a remnant from pre-Crisis that she was always going to end on Earth-1/Prime and the timeline preserved that.

The animated side of things had 5502 Earths at one point since Batman The Brave and the Bold mentions an Earth-5501.