Heroes Season 3 (Spoilers)

[Volunteer Fire Detective]

Another mediocre episode, I thought. Here's what I didn't like:

- Sylar has had Peter's ability all along? Stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid. And not for the reason you think; I'm totally fine with that, in theory. But really, what would have been more interesting for his character arc: having to forego ever getting any new powers in order to truly become the "good guy" that he wants to be, thereby actually sacrificing something; or having the same ability that made Peter a walking plot hole and having to sacrifice absolutely nothing in order to have this ridiculous character switch? I think the former would have been more gratifying, but then we couldn't have the random Sylar and Elle pairing that the writers are shoving down our throats.

- The villains, besides Arthur Petrelli, are lame. Think of it this way: we have Flint and Knox, who were outsmarted by a powerless Peter (let that sink in a minute: outsmarted ... by Peter), Sylar is a double agent and lovey-dovey Elle will follow him wherever he goes, and Tracy couldn't even beat Mohinder when her life depended on it. I guess that's a little unfair; she's slightly more capable that the others - her character switch just makes no sense.

- Hiro's whole storyline. What purpose does it serve? I suppose we'll find out soon enough, but right now ... it's utterly pointless. Usutu had to be killed so we could see the exact same storyline played out with Hiro again? Ridiculous.

- The eclipse had NOTHING to do with their powers. This whole aspect of it is just headache inducing. Okay, so, they were all displaying powers before the eclipse in the first episode, so it had nothing to do with them getting their powers. And if it truly affected abilities, wouldn't Hiro have experienced some malfunctions when he went back to feudal Japan and witnessed the eclipse? Oh, wait, never mind, season two never happened.

- The end was retarded. Arthur Petrellie sittin' there drawin' a an eclipse, just to hammer home the point, in case you'd forgotten, that IT'S COMING!

Things I liked:

- Parkman's whole storyline was very good, and it was nice to see a more human side to Arthur; the best villains are the ones with dimension to them, and it was almost sweet the way he finally decided to let Angela go, even knowing that she would probably betray him again in the future. Although I'm getting tired of the constant references to Daphne's past; we don't need to be reminded of it every five minutes.

- Hiro's references to recent comic book events was fun. I haven't kept up with regular Marvel continuity in quite some time outside of Thor, so I don't know exactly what he was talking about when he said that Hulk was red, but other than that it was interesting (by the way, wasn't Spider-Man's revealing of his secret identity retconned recently? I don't know).

- Nathan once again proving why his character is about 100x more awesome than Peter just by virtue of the fact that he's not borderline mentally handicapped. His inherent distrust of his father was great, and added some much-needed tension, especially knowing that Arthur isn't above killing his son; for a moment there, I half expected Arthur to finish the job. It was a great scene.

 

[Goodwill]

Loeb is writing Hulk and there's a Red Hulk.

 

[ProjectX2]

Hiro referenced Red Hulk?! COME ON, LOEB!

 

[E]

Hiro referenced Red Hulk?! COME ON, LOEB!

My reaction exactly.

He also referenced Captain America being dead and Peter Parker unmasking.

 

[Dr.Strangefate]

Despite the fact that DC distributes the Heroes comic stuff...

 

[Random]

Despite the fact that DC distributes the Heroes comic stuff...

Well if you think about it, a red Hulk, a dead Capt America, and an unmasked Spidey are pretty much, if you said this to someone years ago they would have said "What the ****?" It probably only helps DC... wait a minute... Loeb is a double agent for DC! This explains everything!!!

 

[Bass]

I don't like the Sylar-Elle thing cause it came out of nowhere with no hints to their past "relationship".

I know. It's totally balls.

I remember when Elle was introduced; it was stated that she was psychopathic and wasn't really allowed out much. Her dad made a big deal of the fact he was letting her out on her own.

Now... she's completely balanced.

And also... I ****ing hate the bull**** pop psychology that is "If you point out someone's flaws, they'll immediately fix them". It's total rubbish. Sylar's told, "You're a good boy" and suddenly he ****ing is. And it's all his mother's fault he was bad. That and the 'hunger'. Now, Elle. I can't stand this pop psychology nonsense.

How are Hiro's powers not gone?

Why isn't Hiro dead? Why did Arthur Petrelli let Ando live? Ando is supposed to be dead. Hiro is meant to have killed him. That's why Arthur even knows where he IS.

And how did Arthur know Hiro watched him in the past? How many ****ing random powers does he ****ing have? And wasn't the whole point of hiring Hiro to kill the African because no one else could surprise him? So how did Arthur do it? I suppose now that Arthur is out of bed, he can do whatever the **** he wants.

And were they trying to mimick the effect from Watchmen when Mr. Manhatten first starts to get his powers?

I think it's just coincidence. That said, the entire first season's plot is a mimic of WATCHMEN, so maybe.

Another mediocre episode, I thought. Here's what I didn't like:

- Sylar has had Peter's ability all along? Stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid. And not for the reason you think; I'm totally fine with that, in theory. But really, what would have been more interesting for his character arc: having to forego ever getting any new powers in order to truly become the "good guy" that he wants to be, thereby actually sacrificing something; or having the same ability that made Peter a walking plot hole and having to sacrifice absolutely nothing in order to have this ridiculous character switch? I think the former would have been more gratifying, but then we couldn't have the random Sylar and Elle pairing that the writers are shoving down our throats.

Peter's power has always been rubbish. Especially on a 'hero'. Sylar is perhaps the one villain where if you give him Peter's power, it doesn't make him a good villain. Sylar goes around eating brains to get power. It's awesome. Imagine if, in the first season, all he had to do was meet them to get their power. Oh, lord. That would be scary.

And you know what I can't stand about Sylar's pleas for redemption? WHY they're such bull****?

He enjoyed killing people. Just a few episodes back, he had fun when he showed Elle he's killed her dad to get his gold power (turned a gun gold) and then took pleasure from cutting open her head.

Then, in a flashback, they had a nice dinner once, Elle fed him a brain for a power he's never used before, and now she's okay with him killing her dad and laughing about it because, hey, her dad was the reason she was in trouble be for. He kinda did her a favour.

Ugh.

- The villains, besides Arthur Petrelli, are lame. Think of it this way: we have Flint and Knox, who were outsmarted by a powerless Peter (let that sink in a minute: outsmarted ... by Peter), Sylar is a double agent and lovey-dovey Elle will follow him wherever he goes, and Tracy couldn't even beat Mohinder when her life depended on it. I guess that's a little unfair; she's slightly more capable that the others - her character switch just makes no sense.

Totally. And I liked Peter's outwitting of Knox and Flint (though I love your "outsmarted... by Peter" :lol. But I agree, for a volume called "Villains", they've killed Munroe, turned Sylar and Elle good... and Arthur Petrelli isn't even a villain. He's a ****ing plot device. Case in point: Hiro.

- Hiro's whole storyline. What purpose does it serve? I suppose we'll find out soon enough, but right now ... it's utterly pointless. Usutu had to be killed so we could see the exact same storyline played out with Hiro again? Ridiculous.

Reading you on FM, baby. AMNESIA. Hiro wakes up from his dream quest with all the answers and then gets given AMNESIA so we're regressing, not progressing.

It's really ****ing annoying. And the next episode won't progress either. Amnesia is the laziest ****ing storytelling device.

And the fact that Hiro's whole "learning to use his powers" thing and the comic shop thing was actually funny and entertaining and the best damn part of the episode, is only more maddening.

- The eclipse had NOTHING to do with their powers. This whole aspect of it is just headache inducing. Okay, so, they were all displaying powers before the eclipse in the first episode, so it had nothing to do with them getting their powers. And if it truly affected abilities, wouldn't Hiro have experienced some malfunctions when he went back to feudal Japan and witnessed the eclipse? Oh, wait, never mind, season two never happened.

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- The end was retarded. Arthur Petrellie sittin' there drawin' a an eclipse, just to hammer home the point, in case you'd forgotten, that IT'S COMING!

At least no one is paying the ultimate price...

Things I liked:

- Parkman's whole storyline was very good, and it was nice to see a more human side to Arthur; the best villains are the ones with dimension to them, and it was almost sweet the way he finally decided to let Angela go, even knowing that she would probably betray him again in the future. Although I'm getting tired of the constant references to Daphne's past; we don't need to be reminded of it every five minutes.

Yes. Also, Parkman's great, but his storyline is balls. The guy who plays him deserves many award. The character, on paper is a dull, pathetic loser and waste of time. But the actor is so unbelievably charming and charismatic, he's by far one of my favourites in the show. Love him.

- Hiro's references to recent comic book events was fun. I haven't kept up with regular Marvel continuity in quite some time outside of Thor, so I don't know exactly what he was talking about when he said that Hulk was red, but other than that it was interesting (by the way, wasn't Spider-Man's revealing of his secret identity retconned recently? I don't know).

I liked it too.

Although... DiB? Work out when the first episode of Heroes took place. Then work out when this episode took place. Did those events yet happen in the Marvel universe? In Heroes land, it's not the end of 2008. It's more like mid-2007 or so. Might be funny if actually, this is wrong. Maybe Hiro teleported to the future! :lol:

(Note - I'm nitpicking here for fun, this isn't a criticism.)

- Nathan once again proving why his character is about 100x more awesome than Peter just by virtue of the fact that he's not borderline mentally handicapped. His inherent distrust of his father was great, and added some much-needed tension, especially knowing that Arthur isn't above killing his son; for a moment there, I half expected Arthur to finish the job. It was a great scene.

Nathan is like Parkman, except his character is actually interesting, so the actor puts him over the top. These two, plus Hiro, are the reasons to watch this show, in my opinion. Sylar used to be, as did HRG, but not anymore.

Something else - I hate Claire being the One. Because I can't stand Claire. I think Maya would've been - oop! Season 2 reference! Never happened. *forgets* Kaito would've been cool too. Or Munroe. Or anyone but Claire. At least it didn't turn out to be Peter.

Gold star bonus for the writers though: Who gave Claire over to HRG to protect?

Kaito Nakamura.

Good continuity and well done to them.

 

[Dr.Strangefate]

Maya was a bull**** character, and I'm glad she's gone... Why on earth would she have been a decent choice for being "The One"?

You know what I think I've decided? Season Two had good ideas that followed what the series was supposed to be (except some things that were just utter bull****), but overall the problem wasn't that characters weren't acting in character or the plot seemed too forced, it just was kind of boring and mediocre in comparison to season one. Hiro's subplot went on three times longer than it should have. They waited half the season to reveal what the real problem was... The series bogged itself down with too many new characters too quickly... The spirit of the show was intact, but the focus was off entirely.

Season Three is fun to watch. I really think it is... I enjoy watching it episode to episode... The trouble isn't when I watch it, but rather when I think about it later, and things don't really fit or make sense, and the overall plotting is bull****, but the scenes within the bull**** plot are still more engaging than those in season two (with many obvious exceptions)... I think they figured out how the focus the show the way they did season one, making it fun and engaging, but now they've lost the spirit of the show and more unfortunately, the humanity behind these characters.

It's like X-Men 3... I walked out of the theater energized, thinking it was awesome. As we walked to the car afterwards talking about it, the little problems became bigger. By the time we reached the diner, it became clear how terrible it was as a movie.

(that said, I still like the redemption of Sylar subplot, and I don't think its as far off as you guys are putting it. Plus the bad sides of both Elle and Sylar will have a chance to come out, they might want to kill people, but they'll hurt people with relish. I don't know. Its probably just what I was saying earlier, but even if it shouldn't have happened, Zachary Quinto and Kristen Bell are good enough actors to pull it off, at least to me)

 

[Bass]

Maya was a bull**** character, and I'm glad she's gone... Why on earth would she have been a decent choice for being "The One"?

The whole, "she has enough power in her to kill the Devil" thing. She was obviously tied to the Shanthi virus, but when that got nixed, it might've been possible to give her a purpose by making her the catalyst.

At least that way, it wouldn't just be a Petrelli, AGAIN. (There are six of them! Enough with Petrelli being the key on which the plot turns.)

You know what I think I've decided? Season Two had good ideas that followed what the series was supposed to be (except some things that were just utter bull****), but overall the problem wasn't that characters weren't acting in character or the plot seemed too forced, it just was kind of boring and mediocre in comparison to season one.

See, I think here, the characters are far, far more inconsistent than before, and the plot is ludicrously contrived with characters continually doing things that just beggar further questions. I think the difference here is that you don't notice the inconsistencies because they've just ramped up the kinesis of the show, artificially - people talk about how bad things are and how awful things will be, but if you look, very little has happened. The major thing that's happened is the answer to who shot Nathan Petrelli - and that was in the first episode. In fact, stuff happened in the first episode, but nothing qualitative has happened for about three weeks. In fact, I think the plot is still where it was in episode 6.

Season 3 I think is far, far worse to season 2. Season 2 had four problems: Maya (and Sylar), Peter, West, and the New Orleans girl. But Hiro, HRG, Parkman, and Nathan, all had plot lines that actually really mattered and went somewhere. Hiro and HRG in particular. And Hiro's story wasn't too long. The problem was that there were three plot lines that took up a lot of the episode that weren't any good. If I edited season 2 so Maya, Peter, and the New Orleans chick weren't in it, the Kensei storyline is barely two episodes. And HRG's plot was ****ing brilliant. In other words, the problems were the new characters (and Peter).

To really get what I mean... Episode 9 of the first season was "Homecoming", the episode that made me fall in love with Heroes. In this episode, Sylar and Peter have their first confrontation, future Hiro's maxim "Save the cheerleader, save the world" is resolved (in part), and Sylar is finally captured. Huge payoffs to the previous 8 episodes.

In season 2, episode 9 was "Cautionary Tales", the episode that had me cheering for Heroes. In this episode, the entire plot line of Bennet's future in Isaac's paintings is resolved, as is Claire and West's relationship, Suresh and Bennet's entire attempt to bring down the Company fails, and it's revealed that Adam Munroe is the Company killer. Huge payoffs to the previous 8 episodes.

In season 3, episode 9 is "It's Coming". Elle and Sylar become friends. Daphne and Parkman fall in love. That is all.

Angela Petrelli doesn't count. She's in the same position she was before she got coma'd. No progression. Nathan knew his dad was alive a couple episodes ago. Out of the blue, we get a set up that the eclipse is coming, whatever that means. And Hiro, who knew how to solve the plot, is suffering from amnesia.

I'm so disappointed in this show right now.

EDIT - Just saw the preview.

Spoiler

The eclipse takes all their powers. Oh, for ****'s sake, really? REALLY? So the big superhero fight will actually be resolved by people punching each other? Didn't we already do the 'they lose their powers' schtick in season 2? And I bet Daphne's 'secret' is Arthur gave her powers and they stop her from being fat. And so, she'll lose her powers and her super metabolism and become fat and I will laugh at how selfish she is.

They lose their powers. And there's a guy searching for a formula who gives people powers. Oh, how it's all connected.

I think I might just give up on Heroes, like I did with Galactica.

 

[DIrishB]

And were they trying to mimick the effect from Watchmen when Mr. Manhatten first starts to get his powers?

I was thinking the same thing.

Although... DiB? Work out when the first episode of Heroes took place. Then work out when this episode took place. Did those events yet happen in the Marvel universe? In Heroes land, it's not the end of 2008. It's more like mid-2007 or so. Might be funny if actually, this is wrong. Maybe Hiro teleported to the future! :lol:

First season of Heroes occurred during October, 2006. Season 2 took place in March, 2007, and Season 3 continued immediately on from Season 2, so in terms of the timeline, its late March, 2007 in the Heroes universe.

So yeah, bit of a continuity gaffe, but it could easily be argued the comics of our modern world happened 18 months earlier in the Heroes verse. Of course, that'd just be over-thinking it. But thats what I do. And I'm the best at it.

Gold star bonus for the writers though: Who gave Claire over to HRG to protect?

Kaito Nakamura.

Good continuity and well done to them.

Good point, I didn't even put those two points together.

 

[Goodwill]

I knew that the loss of their powers was an inevitability. Remember my post about their powers? The writers have made certain characters too powerful - to the point where the audience will get annoyed that Hiro didn't go back in time to right this wrong or if Claire can hurt herself why is she missing a pinky toe. That kinda thing.

 

[Bass]

Can you quote your post Goodwill? I'd like to read it.

 

[Dr.Strangefate]

Pushing Daisies has been canceled. Perhaps there is a light at the end of the tunnel after all...

 

[Goodwill]

Damn. Sorry, Bass, but I can't find it.

Essentially, what I was saying was that the writers have made characters far too powerful for their own good. The audience is aware of and likened to how powerful someone is. For example, Hiro can teleport and travel through time, meaning he can (if he so chooses) skip around the plot and do his own time bending thing. Thing is, though, his powers are weakened or strengthened depending on what the writers want. Now, if they planned out limitations or found a way to make Hiro's powers work without contradicting the last time they showed his power, there would be no problem. I dunno... Maybe a better example would've been a character who can absorb power or heal because these characters A.) can't die B.) can do anything C.) create confusion as to what powers they have and so forth.

I hope I'm making sense...

 

[Bass]

Damn. Sorry, Bass, but I can't find it.

Essentially, what I was saying was that the writers have made characters far too powerful for their own good. The audience is aware of and likened to how powerful someone is. For example, Hiro can teleport and travel through time, meaning he can (if he so chooses) skip around the plot and do his own time bending thing. Thing is, though, his powers are weakened or strengthened depending on what the writers want. Now, if they planned out limitations or found a way to make Hiro's powers work without contradicting the last time they showed his power, there would be no problem. I dunno... Maybe a better example would've been a character who can absorb power or heal because these characters A.) can't die B.) can do anything C.) create confusion as to what powers they have and so forth.

I hope I'm making sense...

Yes. I completely agree. It's been a problem from day one, and I've said as much, and precisely why it was okay in the first season.

In season 1, everyone was a *******ed n00b. Every single character. Hiro made a living out of it. Isaac could paint the future only when high. Peter had to spend a whole episode with Doctor Who to learn how to turn invisible. And on and on. And you know what? That was great. It was the first season, the first time any of them were really displaying their powers, and it's fine if Parkman uses his mind control to just get a promotion. It made sense. And Sylar... Sylar knew how his powers worked and it's part of what made him so gorram scary. While Hiro is forced to getting on a plane to get to NY because he can't remember how to teleport, Sylar is already cutting people's heads open, eating their brains, and immediately learning how to use his new superpower of pain.

But, these characters are not only used to their powers, but we're meeting characters who've had powers for decades and have been using them all the time. And they act stupid with them. And that's the problem. The show's reaching. Depowering them isn't a solution, it's just a tactic to stall the series to keep it going. :noway:

 

[Goodwill]

I think the depowering of the characters is a blatant and outright retcon. I don't think it'll work (at least for me) on television. Everything is out in the open - they are essentially trying to cover up their mistakes by cleaning the slate... When the slate is actually a television screen with millions watching. I don't see this as a good thing at all. This show is dying.

 

[AnTwan]

Do you really think it will stick? I mean, Just because they are "House of NBC"ing doesn't mean these changes are going to last very long. I missed the preview but I feel like people will have their powers back by the end of the eclipse part 2. Most people at least. My only issue with the eclipse is, in season 1 didn't suresh say this event almost never happened. So why is it happening a year later?
I think (or maybe just hope) Claire is a red herring. I am really hoping there is a little depth there and it winds up being Ando (which is why Hiro was friends with him from such a young age and why Kaito hired him). There are too many storylines started that involve powers to have this eclipse take them out for very long though.

Spoiler

I also think that the Kaito thing being introduced makes for an interesting twist on the episode after Eclipse II, the half-season finale titled "Our Father" before it was a religious reference and a petrelli reference, now Hiro is in there too, maybe Claire can be included in the next two episodes?

Oh god! Think of how much *** HRG kicks when everyone has powers. Now think of how much *** he can kick when they don't! Maybe this will be his redeeming episode this season.

 

[Bass]

I'm pretty sure you're right AnTwan. The depowering is temporary. I think the depowering is so that the big 'fight' can be cheaper and so that certain characters like Arthur Petrelli and Sylar, aren't so powerful in the fights that the writers can't write them properly (which is just silly).

I dunno. The big sticking point is that the eclipse didn't give them powers (half of them were already using their powers before the eclipse), so I don't see how the logic follows that a second eclipse robs them of their powers.

There's been loads of eclipses in the last 400 years - why didn't any of them switch off Adam's power and kill him then?

Doesn't make any kind of sense. Maybe it will. I hope it does.

 

[Bass]

I keep forgetting this plot hole:

9th Wonders.

Where the hell did the issue that Ando and Hiro see in the comic shop come from? Isaac is dead. If this is an old issue... why hasn't Hiro, he who is now a millionaire, just buy up every 9th Wonders comic, no matter how old, and read them all?

My guess this is a new comic made by another Isaac clone. The African draws like Tim Sale. Peter did too. I assume Sylar is so bad *** he draws differently. :roll:

I just remembered how much this irked me in the show and I got sidetracked by all the other stupid things in it. But this one is just weird. It's like they just copy and pasted an old season 1 episode in there.

 

[E]

I keep forgetting this plot hole:

9th Wonders.

Where the hell did the issue that Ando and Hiro see in the comic shop come from? Isaac is dead. If this is an old issue... why hasn't Hiro, he who is now a millionaire, just buy up every 9th Wonders comic, no matter how old, and read them all?

My guess this is a new comic made by another Isaac clone. The African draws like Tim Sale. Peter did too. I assume Sylar is so bad *** he draws differently. :roll:

I just remembered how much this irked me in the show and I got sidetracked by all the other stupid things in it. But this one is just weird. It's like they just copy and pasted an old season 1 episode in there.

I just assumed it was an as-before unseen Isaac comic.

 

[thee great one]

I watched the last episode and it was slightly a little better.

Tracy's character annoys me. If they wanted to keep the actress around, they shouldn't of kill Nikki-Jessica off.

I do really like the Sylar-Elle relationship, but it irks me that it had no set-up and was pure random plot twist. But the dark room scene was the best one this season.

Sylar gaining powers now by connecting with someone is complete balls. This is worse than than turning him into a good guy or making him a Petrelli. How much can they butcher his original character? Is he even the same character anymore?

I am enjoying the Daphne & Matt storyline, and I thought the end grouping of Heroes and Villains was kinda neat.

 

[Goodwill]

You're right Great One - Sylar's not the same character anymore. Pisses me off, but what else could they do with him this time around? Obviously, they don't want definitive heroes or villains.

 

[thee great one]

He should be a more recurring character.

He shouldn't of even been in Season 2 very much.

So when he does appear he is even scarier.

 

[Bass]

What I've been saying since the end of season 1.

O, teevee gods, why dost thou not listen?

 

[Goodwill]

His role in season one was the reason I kept watching. He was, at that point, my favorite character. Then, when he wasn't around so much I found that HRG was actually the best. Now, both of these characters aren't prominent or as prominent as before and they lack the originality that they did. HRG might as well not even be in the show anymore... He's what he was in season one all over again but only because they need to have him somewhere... I don't know. Characters on this show don't exist anymore.

 

[thee great one]

I always liked Peter at first. I still do, I just hate that they keep finding ways to depower him.

 

[Drunken Pickle]

ok anyone else notice

Spoiler

a red thing fall out with Suresh when he fell out of his cocoon?

my roommate saw it too and we were like "&$#@!!!

Spoiler

he just had a spider baby!!!"

 

[Volunteer Fire Detective]

So, tonight's episode wasn't all bad, except for the fact that the entire premise of the episode makes not sense.

By that, of course, I mean the eclipse. I've already talked about my problems with it, but I guess it's best to just move on. It's happening - and it's just another aspect of the Heroes world. Okay. Got it. Accept it and move on.

The actual episode, even with all of the logical inconsistencies ... was actually kinda good. Hiro was still incredibly annoying, almost to the point of making me want to turn the channel; his conversation with Matt was also headache inducing. If Ando is just going to repeat everything Hiro says, why put up the subtitles at all? And while we're on the subject of Matt - he's had these powers for how long now, and he's calling it his "head-thingy"? TELEPATHY, Matt. With a smattering of mind control. It's not hard. Grab a dictionary if you must. But you sound like a moron, and you're not.

Also, you have to feel sorry for Arthur. I mean, how many eclipses has the poor guy drawn at this point? If I were him, I'd be getting pretty frustrated right now ("Another eclipse? Oh, that's useful! 'Hey, everyone, we're getting an eclipse! Definitely didn't know THAT already!' ****ing useless power.").

I have to appreciate Elle, even though her character is making less and less sense. But at least she's whipping Sylar back into shape. I'd grown tired of the watered-down, I Have To Please My Daddy Sylar they've been forcing upon us, and it's good to see some of the old, great villain in him back.

Although ... Sylar would NEVER be happy his powers were gone. His entire motivation throughout the whole show has been "I'm special, but I want to be more special!" Now, he's not special ... and he's happy about it? No. Forget this ridiculous "hunger" which hasn't been mentioned for several episodes until now (I thought he was over that anyway? Oh, who can tell. His story arc is like a bad soap opera, where the person the MC is in love with changes depending on the writer; only here, it's whether or not Sylar is evil, or has the hunger, or is in love with Elle, or just wants to be loved). This is Sylar we're talking about here. He would never be happy with just being "normal."

HRG was amazing. It's good to finally have him back. He's easily the most badass character in the show (him or maybe the Haitian). And that sniper at the end? Even though we pretty much know nothing's going to happen (in the same way we know nothing's going to happen to Claire), it's still awesome on a level we've been sorely missing on the show lately.

On a side note, it's pretty interesting that two badass characters returned this week, and were properly awesome (I'm talking of course of HRG and Jack "

Spoiler

I will kill you and this time you will stay dead

" Bauer). What we need now: HRG and Bauer teaming up. To do what? Does it matter? They could be attempting to fend off Kim's cougar and it would still be totally wicked cool. And totally, in case you missed the adjective before, badass.

That is all I have to say. It should be interesting to see where this all leads. I do hope that Villains manages to have a great ending. But we shall see.

 

[E]

ok anyone else notice

Spoiler

a red thing fall out with Suresh when he fell out of his cocoon?

my roommate saw it too and we were like "&$#@!!!

Spoiler

he just had a spider baby!!!"

I totally saw that, and I totally said the same thing.

 

[Dr.Strangefate]

Get over it, Jeph Loeb, nobody cares about your stupid Red Hulk comics.

Also: Daphne was really irritating in tonight's episode, when she's typically been one of my favorite newcomers.

And where did Claire's biological mom go?