What about the Illuminati Ultron bots then they would still have to go through similar events that happened in Age of Ultron in the MCU
no but judging by the trees and the type of clothes people wear at the start and the end of the movie (it spans somewhere around 3 or 4 days for the bulk of the film with maybe a week or 2 jump near the very end)
Yes. The MCU is not set within the comic mutliverse anymore. Earth-199999 was it's designation originally but clearly this is being retconned, tho it's still likely that Earth-199999 still exsists as an earth bearing strong similarities to the MCU. But now the MCU is Earth-616 and this makes it an adaptation of the comics mutliverse and not part of the comics multiverse. Basically two versions of the MCU exsist, as Earth-19999 in the Comic Multiverse and as Earth-616 in the Film Multiverse
Unless it's said or shown onscreen, it's up in the air whether it happened similarly or not.
I've already thoroughly explained why this is wrong. You can't just decide that the MCU isn't Earth-199999. That's just a fact Marvel have never disputed. Clearly, there's a layer of cosmic separation between the two allowing the MCU to act independently to the comics multiverse, but it's still factually the same grander multiverse.
www.murphysmultiverse.com
Nothing has stated it's the comics mutliverse that it connects to at the end of Loki just that it's connecting to new branches. Also them stating the MCU is Earth-616 in a film is them in fact disputing that it's Earth-199999. If they considered it Earth-199999 they would've said that but they didn't. Like it or not we have two offical Earth-616s now and they clearly aren't the same. They are two different multiverses with the only connection being one is an adaptation of the other.I've already thoroughly explained why this is wrong. You can't just decide that the MCU isn't Earth-199999. That's just a fact Marvel have never disputed. Clearly, there's a layer of cosmic separation between the two allowing the MCU to act independently to the comics multiverse, but it's still factually the same grander multiverse.
In fact:
EXCLUSIVE: 'Loki' Director Kate Herron Explains Marvel's Interconnected Multiverse - Murphy's Multiverse
The final episode of Loki introduced the world to the multiverse. A single decision unleashed a new Multiversal…
This literally confirms what I've been saying.
Marvel doesn't consider Earth-199999 an alternate MCU like you're suggesting. They consider it the exact same MCU that this timeline is based on. If the MCU is officially considered Earth-199999, which it is, and Earth-616, which it is, then logically it has to do with the branches and pre-existing universes in Loki. You can't just pretend that the MCU isn't Earth-199999. That's an established canonical fact and it doesn't matter what this movie calls it.
I'm saying that Earth-199999 has no been retconned into Earth-616 and logically that means two Earth-616s cannot exsist within the same multiverse meaning it highly likely the MCU Earth-616 is simply an adaptation of the comics Earth-616. I'm not pretending it isn't, Marvel Studios have officially shown in 2 different projects that it's considered Earth-616. The only thing that establishes the MCU is Earth-199999 are old comic reference books and it's very reasonable to assume it's been retconned
That's true I'm not disagreeing with this
Nothing has stated where those universes branch from or how they connect. Nothing has said the Raimiverse branched from the MCU, for all we know that could be on the the universes it connected back to. Everything you've said here is an assumption on which universes are which and where they branch from.
On the contrary with what we know now that Marvel Studios considers the MCU as Earth-616 we cannot assume it shares the same mutliverse as the comics Earth-616 until EXPLICITLY stated otherwise and nothing, save an old reference books for the comics and one the films have now EXPLICITLY contradicted, states they are part of the same mutliverse
How the Marvel and DC multiverses work are quite different but again Smallville becoming Earth-167 was a retcon. And that part with the Illuminati is just you making another assumption to make two separate pieces of information from two different sources fit.
I'm trying to tell you a retcon has happened. Nothing officially licensed by Marvel Studios has labeled the MCU as Earth-199999 but now two projects have labeled it as Earth-616 and there is no way Marvel has two Earth-616s exsisting in the same multiverse. The only logical assumption to make here is that if Marvel wanted them to be separate universes within the same mutliverse they would've called the MCU Earth-199999 or given it a new designation but they EXPLICITLY stated this is Earth-616 and unless Marvel has started having multiple universes with the same designation or universes with multiple designations, which absolutely nothing supports, it's likely to assume they are separate earths in separate multiverses.
Those guidebooks that you speak of link to a continuously updated site that works closely with Marveo and includes every designated universe. The MCU is designated Earth-199999 and it hasn't been changed. The MCU is both Earth-199999 to the greater Marvel Multiverse, as that is a fact, and Earth-616 to the "Marvel Cinematic Multiverse". It's relatively simple, honestly. You're trying to make it out like there's two Earth-616s that occupy the same space but that's not true at all.
Read this.
Okay...I think we're saying the same thing kinda? I agree that the MCU is both Earth-199999 and Earth-616. I think what you consider "Multiverse Sections" I'm calling "Seperate Multiverses" and what you're calling the "Grander Multiverse" is more of a multiverse of multiverses where in one it's Earth-199999 and one it's Earth-616. Like there's a Comic Section/Tree and a Movie Section/Tree each with their own branches and earths and the MCU has one on both branches?
Speaking of, Marvel just updated with the What If...? Earth numbers.
