Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 2)

[selfishmisery]

Based on that breakdown video, they went with the newspaper so they are implying IM3 is December 2013.

Is the breakdown video showing a point in the book that insinuates that?

 

[fuzzyfoot]

Is the breakdown video showing a point in the book that insinuates that?

Yes, Malekith is discussed on Pages 101-104 which would be TDW, and Maya Hansen is discussed on Pages 106-108 implying that her story in the MCU takes place after Malekith's. Like I said, in the more complicated years, based on how the pages for characters are broken down, they take a year and go through it chronologically from Jan 1 to Dec 31. Otherwise why jump around like that on pages during each year?

 

[Raylauncher]

I think it would be better to just wait until the book releases and we can see every page in it's entirety, before jumping into such strong conclusions.

 

[selfishmisery]

I think it would be better to just wait until the book releases and we can see every page in it's entirety, before jumping into such strong conclusions.

Yeah, these pages we're looking at don't automatically show up in the page previews UNTIL you click on the book icon.
So 1.) that was an error/leak on Amazon's part and 2.) Who's to say that wasn't an earlier draft of the book's layout?

 

[marioxb]

So I guess they'll have some kind of explanation for the "6 months later" from Iron Man 2, sort of like we do? Where the whiplash montage is 2008-2009 or so, and then "6 months later"?

And for Homecoming, maybe a disclaimer, "We messed up. That was supposed to say 4 years later. Oopsie!" would be nice...

 

[Pro Bot]

I do agree with 2010 for Fury's Big Week. The Marvel Appendix listing even states as much in their What If...? Earth numbers. 2013 for Iron Man 3? That's laughable for me.

 

[Basilisk]

Yeah, it all seems okay to me except Iron Man 3. Was fine with the book not acknowledging AoS, but forcing it out of continuity sucks. But I'm already trying to find a way to no-prize it in my head

 

[marioxb]

Yeah, it all seems okay to me except Iron Man 3. Was fine with the book not acknowledging AoS, but forcing it out of continuity sucks. But I'm already trying to find a way to no-prize it in my head

In some of the YouTube comments on that guy's video, they have an explanation for that. AoS only mentioned the Extremis, right, and they said it was new. Those guys could have been messing with it before the events of the movie... I mean it works, I guess.

Now back to Iron Man 2. Yes. The movie has to take place in 2010 or 2011. Did we ever an explanation for in the courtroom near the beginning, Hammer says something to the effect of "six months ago..." so and so. Are we just saying he's referring to some other event that we didn't see?

 

[FruityWho50]

Yeah just watched A bit of Everything's video on the index and I am strongly against this book now (even though they could be early draft pages of the book it's highly likely that they aren't and are in fact the finished product)
I was ok with the non Disney + shows not making an appearance as I'm focused on getting concrete evidence for the phase 4 stuff like the order of Eternals/Wandavision or Wandavision/Eternals or the actual placement of Thor 4 because I'm beyond stumped with that one but now you're telling me that they put the Disney+ timeline (which was already on wobbly ground in terms of some of its placements) and just copied and pasted it in a book I'm sorry buts that's just absurd. Unless we find any small details in the book that works with our understanding of events then I'll consider it money well spent but for the rest of the book hard pass (Star Wars team did such a great job with theirs and this just confirms that whoever is Marvel's Timeline keeper,whether they are real or imaginary, needs to be sacked)

 

[Lebnyx]

Everyone, I am planning to stop work on the MCU timeline.

It's nothing to do with the timeline book, I already privately told other users before the pandemic I was planning to stop due to lack of interest in continuing the work and not being a fan of several MCU movies.
Besides Shang-Chi, Guardians Vol. 3 and a few of the Disney+ shows being good, and NWH and Wakanda Forever being okay, I also haven't enjoyed Marvel Studios' output since Endgame, so that's also been a factor. And I'm also uninterested about the controversies on the book's film placements.

I plan on stopping before the timeline book releases, and since Loki S2 is the next thing to come out, and it'll end a few weeks after the book comes out, I figure it's as good a time as any to announce this.

Is anyone interested in continuing the timeline in a new thread?

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Everyone, I am planning to stop work on the MCU timeline.

It's nothing to do with the timeline book, I already privately told other users before the pandemic I was planning to stop due to lack of interest in continuing the work and not being a fan of several MCU movies.
Besides Shang-Chi and a few of the Disney+ shows being good, and NWH and Wakanda Forever being okay, I also haven't enjoyed Marvel Studios' output since Endgame, so that's also been a factor. And I'm also uninterested about the controversies on the book's film placements.

I plan on stopping before the timeline book releases, and since Loki S2 is the next thing to come out, and it'll end a few weeks after the book comes out, I figure it's as good a time as any to announce this.

Is anyone interested in continuing the timeline in a new thread?

Listen, I understand where you are coming from. I just recently went through the same thing for the past few years. But I believe as the MCU beings to course correct, your passion will return. I've spent countless hours of my life in this forum creating a chronological viewing order for friends and family based on this timeline. To see it all end after so many years put into it is downright heartbreaking! Please re-consider!

 

[Raylauncher]

Everyone, I am planning to stop work on the MCU timeline.

It's nothing to do with the timeline book, I already privately told other users before the pandemic I was planning to stop due to lack of interest in continuing the work and not being a fan of several MCU movies.
Besides Shang-Chi and a few of the Disney+ shows being good, and NWH and Wakanda Forever being okay, I also haven't enjoyed Marvel Studios' output since Endgame, so that's also been a factor. And I'm also uninterested about the controversies on the book's film placements.

I plan on stopping before the timeline book releases, and since Loki S2 is the next thing to come out, and it'll end a few weeks after the book comes out, I figure it's as good a time as any to announce this.

Is anyone interested in continuing the timeline in a new thread?

I understand you, I had to take about a year's leave of MCU too, because I was not satisfied with the direction (or the lack of direction) it's heading towards. Returning and binging the stuff I missed out gave me a new bump, but now I feel myself burning out yet again. It was so much more interesting, where we had movies, comics, series in different networks. It's not the same since Endgame. Regardless I do hope you will find the spark to keep going later, I'm hoping for changes too. If not, thank you for managing the timeline through the years!

 

[fuzzyfoot]

Everyone, I am planning to stop work on the MCU timeline.

It's nothing to do with the timeline book, I already privately told other users before the pandemic I was planning to stop due to lack of interest in continuing the work and not being a fan of several MCU movies.
Besides Shang-Chi and a few of the Disney+ shows being good, and NWH and Wakanda Forever being okay, I also haven't enjoyed Marvel Studios' output since Endgame, so that's also been a factor. And I'm also uninterested about the controversies on the book's film placements.

I plan on stopping before the timeline book releases, and since Loki S2 is the next thing to come out, and it'll end a few weeks after the book comes out, I figure it's as good a time as any to announce this.

Is anyone interested in continuing the timeline in a new thread?

I'm gonna echo Kinard. Believe me, I know how you feel. I was as ecstatic as anyone when WandaVision began and lost a LOT of energy and interest in the MCU as Phase 4 drug on. I barely even mustered the energy to get tickets for AM3 and that was supposed to START Phase 5. However, I have rewatched what's available in the saga recently and once I got to AM3 again I realized that all that drudgery was finally paying off. I enjoyed AM3 (I know a lot didn't but my Kang theory I posted a while back makes me feel much differently about the film than most), and GOTG 3 was amazing. The rumors circling Cap 4 (remember way back when MK 'might' be in a project with Cap soon?) and a couple other things happening behind the scenes (Iger admitting the MCU lost focus, the cutting way back on shows, and re-direction of where its all going) and I feel like a corner was turned without us actually realizing it.

I think the worst is behind us now that Secret Invasion is done, and I hope I'm right that it'll start getting better again. That is all to say, I hope you stick it out, but do understand if you decide to follow your heart and be done. Lord knows there is plenty of reasons to point at in agreement recently, but again, I'm once again hopeful that the MCU is turning a new corner.

 

[Lebnyx]

Sorry guys, as I mentioned, I didn't consider myself a fan of the MCU as a whole even before the pandemic since I don't care for a number of movies in the first three phases. I decided to give Phases Four and Five a shot, but since the movies were generally not improving on what came before, I am deciding to call it quits.
Even if it wasn't for the quality declining, I still want to stop working on this since it has been very boring for me.

Once again, if anyone is interested in continuing the timeline in a new thread, please let me know.

 

[marioxb]

Once the book is out, I wonder if, as a group, we'll decide that the book is gospel and that is the new timeline that we all agree upon. If so, this thread can probably be edited to move things around to match the book. Really should not be a very involved process. Once that is done, someone can create a new thread, "Phase Five and Beyond", as no further editing to Phase 1 through 4 should be needed.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Once the book is out, I wonder if, as a group, we'll decide that the book is gospel and that is the new timeline that we all agree upon. If so, this thread can probably be edited to move things around to match the book. Really should not be a very involved process. Once that is done, someone can create a new thread, "Phase Five and Beyond", as no further editing to Phase 1 through 4 should be needed.

There is no way the book is going to be fully agreed upon. I guarantee we have all put way more thought into this timeline than the writers of that book.

 

[marioxb]

True, but I was thinking the actual days and stuff (and non Marvel Studios projects) could mostly stay the same, just update some years (such as Fury's Big Week to 2010) and stuff. And whatever is going on with Iron Man 3.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

True, but I was thinking the actual days and stuff (and non Marvel Studios projects) could mostly stay the same, just update some years (such as Fury's Big Week to 2010) and stuff. And whatever is going on with Iron Man 3.

As long as the evidence presented is agreed upon. I'm sure this timeline will be more accurate overall.

 

[Megatron]

Sorry guys, as I mentioned, I didn't consider myself a fan of the MCU as a whole even before the pandemic since I don't care for a number of movies in the first three phases. I decided to give Phases Four and Five a shot, but since the movies were generally not improving on what came before, I am deciding to call it quits.
Even if it wasn't for the quality declining, I still want to stop working on this since it has been very boring for me.

Once again, if anyone is interested in continuing the timeline in a new thread, please let me know.

Phase 4 and 5 were so Good that I started re-reading 1960s Marvel's comics ahahahah .

 

[Dego Strange]

Is anyone interested in continuing the timeline in a new thread?

I could take the role. I respect your work and DIRISHB's work so much, and I want it continued to the best of my ability. My only problem with this is breaking things down minute by minute and so I will need some help. Otherwise I want to be as helpful as possible.

 

[FruityWho50]

I'm happy to help keep tabs on the timeline going forward (tbh anything that has a overlap like the pre Disney + shows with the main MCU I'm still not sure on, so that's a WIP for me personally, I'm 3 quarters of the way through nailing down a definitive viewing order for phase 2, and anything post endgame including other connected universes is a bit of a headache viewing order wise)

I'm just not going to be 100% certain of my findings.

I'll watch something, where it falls roughly, how much time takes place in it (roughly) and then narrow it down with you guys.

So if you want to take charge on another thread "Dego Strange" that's fine with me. I'm happy to help when I can.

(BTW please don't delete this thread "Lebnyx" because we'd hate to lose all our work so far)

 

[Dego Strange]

"Dego Strange" that's fine with me. I'm happy to help when I can.

I accept all the help I can get. Like this thread, I would be happy for it to be super collaborative

 

[Rman]

Yeah just watched A bit of Everything's video on the index and I am strongly against this book now (even though they could be early draft pages of the book it's highly likely that they aren't and are in fact the finished product)
I was ok with the non Disney + shows not making an appearance as I'm focused on getting concrete evidence for the phase 4 stuff like the order of Eternals/Wandavision or Wandavision/Eternals or the actual placement of Thor 4 because I'm beyond stumped with that one but now you're telling me that they put the Disney+ timeline (which was already on wobbly ground in terms of some of its placements) and just copied and pasted it in a book I'm sorry buts that's just absurd. Unless we find any small details in the book that works with our understanding of events then I'll consider it money well spent but for the rest of the book hard pass (Star Wars team did such a great job with theirs and this just confirms that whoever is Marvel's Timeline keeper,whether they are real or imaginary, needs to be sacked)

I don't think they copied Disney +, I think they've been involved with it since the beginning and the book is just a reflection of that.

I should remind you all that Iron Man 3 began and book ended with a Tony Stark narration at least a month after most of the events in the film.

So I take that as his therapy session with Bruce being very early 2013; and the rest of it obviously being December 2012 in memory.

I always just went with the therapy session being around the movie's release date of May 2013. Disney + placing it after The Dark World made me consider it could potentially be late 2013 or early 2014, but now it's clear they see Iron Man 3 as 2013. I think the problem is that during production they have an idea in mind like Iron Man 3 in 2012, but later on move from it. Like Eternals. I believe 100% the original intent was for it to be Fall 2023 since it was originally going to be the first "Present Day" movie coming out after Endgame. However, with the Covid delays causing Shang-Chi to release first, they pushed it to Fall 2024. So far, Iron Man 3 is the only placement I have issues with, and even then I get why they see it like they do.

 

[Rman]

Also, off topic but I just realized the upcoming WandaVision steelbook is releasing shortly after the series originally took place (both in November 2023).

 

[fuzzyfoot]

Also, off topic but I just realized the upcoming WandaVision steelbook is releasing shortly after the series originally took place (both in November 2023).

Spooky...

 

[Rman]

Spooky...

I could see them doing something similar (most likely unintentionally) with The Falcon & The Winter Solider. I'm sure they'll want it released around Brave New World, so an April-May 2024 date wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Rman]

I've been thinking about it and I'm starting to not hate Iron Man 3 in 2013. Killian making reference to it being 13 years ago may just be an approximation since it was New Years and he's thinking more of it being around 2000 over it being closer to 14 years. Maya also mentions her and Tony's potential kid would actually be 13 (conceived December 31st 1999/January 1st 2000 and born around September 2000). Also when Tony learns about Chad Davis there are more 2013 dates. The only thing that really had me leaning more to 2012 was AoS, but it's clear it's being ignored and it's easy to say Extremis was known by SHIELD before the events of Iron Man 3 anyway.

 

[jhed13]

I would really hope that someone who was around for the DirishB era and keep the way he ran the thread into account could take over

 

[selfishmisery]

I would really hope that someone who was around for the DirishB era and keep the way he ran the thread into account could take over

I would but I am already swamped with other timelines and other irl stuff.

 

[PKMonsa]

For now it seems that this will be the timeline in the book:

The Distant Past: (pg. 10-27)
-Eternals (13-21)
-Thor: The Dark World (17)
-Thor (24)
-Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (25)

1940s, 50s, and 60s: (pg. 28-43)
-Captain America: The First Avenger (30-37)
-Agent Carter (38-39)

1970s-1980s: (pg. 44-51)
-Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (48)
-Ant-Man (49, 51)
-Guardians of the Galaxy (50)
-Black Panther (53)

1990s: (pg. 52-65)
-Black Widow (54)
-Captain Marvel (55-62)
-Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (64)
-Iron Man 3 (65)

2000s: (pg. 66-69)
-The Incredible Hulk (68)
-Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (68)

2008: (pg. 70-76)
-Iron Man (74-76)
-Iron Man 2 (76)

2010: (pg. 77-91)
-Iron Man 2 (77-81)
-Thor (77-84)
-A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer (82)
-The Incredible Hulk (78-88)
-The Consultant (89)
-Captain America: The First Avenger (89)
-Fury's Big Week (77-91)

2012: (pg. 92-99)
-The Avengers (92-97)
-Item 47 (97)

2013: (pg. 100-108)
-Thor: The Dark World (100-105)
-Iron Man 3 (106-108)

2014: (pg. 109-137)
-Iron Man 3 (109-113)
-All Hail the King (114)
-Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (114)
-Captain America: The Winter Soldier (114-124)
-Guardians of the Galaxy (125-131)
-Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (132-137)

2015: (pg. 138-149)
-Avengers: Age of Ultron (138-145)
-Ant-Man (146-149)

2016: (pg. 150-177)
-Captain America: Civil War (150-158)
-Black Widow (159-166)
-Black Panther (166-172)
-Spider-Man: Homecoming (172-176)]
-Doctor Strange (150, 176-177)

2017: (pg. 178-186)
-Doctor Strange (178-181)
-Thor: Ragnarok (181-186)

2018: (pg. 187-205)
-Ant-Man and The Wasp (187-191)
-Avengers: Infinity War (192-203)

2018-2023: (pg. 206-243)
-Avengers: Endgame (204-231)
-Loki (232-237)
-WandaVision (237-243)

2024: (pg. 244-293)
-Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (244-247)
-The Falcon and the Winter Soldier (248-257)
-Spider-Man: Far From Home (258-267)
-Eternals (268-272)
-Spider-Man: No Way Home (273-278)
-Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (278-286)
-Hawkeye (287-291)

2025: (pg. 294-325)
-Moon Knight (296-301)
-Black Panther (301-309)
-She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (267-268, 294-295, 310-312)
-Ms. Marvel (313-318)
-Thor: Love and Thunder (301, 318-323)
-Werewolf by Night (324)
-The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special (325)

What If? (pg. 326-)