Mar Vehl Strange
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Hey, I was reading the old threads and noticed you all seem to agree that Ultimate Iron Man was a terrible comic. Why?
Oh God Bless you sir! GOD BLESS US EVERYONE!!!Hey, I was reading the old threads and noticed you all seem to agree that Ultimate Iron Man was a terrible comic. Why?
That too. The plot was contrived, stupid and unnecessary. Bad times.Basically because of the fact that it destroyed a key player in the Ultimate universe continuity-wise.
If you took the story as an "Ulimate What-If" miniseries---then it'd be an ok book and interesting take on Tony Stark.
But by taking an alocholic billionaire genius in a metal suit, and turning him into a giant walking brain....it takes away the appealing human factor that Stark has.
The only way to streamline Card's Iron Man with Millar's current Iron Man is to retcon the differences into an obviously forced second mini. But once it's understood that the mini is forced and merely a retcon story...almost all likability is removed and basically makes the story stupid.
Oh yeah.....welcome.
That's fine except he was already established in the UU, in both ultimates and ultimate team upIt was a new take on the character that was completely different than the 616 version.
It explained his near genius intellect but also gave him a new power... REGENERATION.
616 Iron Man is (or was before the villification of Civil War) a very flawed smart guy with a suit trying to help people.I definitely see your point yet I thought it humanized him more than anything.
You say that like it's a good thing. If Spider-man got his powers because his mom had sex with a spider would you like the originality of that?It was a new take on the character that was completely different than the 616 version.
Again, you say that like it's a good thing. Giving him powers takes away from his character. It's subtraction through addition.I never read anything by Card before this but it became one of my favorite one-shots.
It explained his near genius intellect but also gave him a new power... REGENERATION.
To each their own.It made me appreciate Iron Man so much more.
Nanomonkeys is a word made up (by Hellsbuttmonkey if I remember right) to mock the series ridiculous plot of monkey obtained powers.P.S. Where were there Nanomonkeys?
Want a good Iron Man story? Warren Ellis and Adi Granov's first 6 issues on Invincible Iron Man. It's called "Extremis" and if they wanted to improve Iron Man, then they should have made this the Ultimate Iron Man mini.
I have no problem with Iron Man having some powers, like say the Extremis enhancement that has made him a walking Blackberry.Iron Man doesn't need powers. The thing that makes him special is that he's just a guy in a robot suit, trying to be a superhero like all the other mutants and stuff. When you give him a power, he loses his originality and becomes just another super powered guy.
Other have said it before....but Proj said it here.
Extremis is THE ultimate Iron Man story. Ultimate Iron Man was just fine as is....but if they were gonna do anything with him---the yshould have used Extremis. It's just that great.
Well i enjoyed it. Tony Stark is not an average man.
Nanomonkeys is a word made up (by Hellsbuttmonkey if I remember right) to mock the series ridiculous plot of monkey obtained powers.
Even tough Extremis came out after UIM it sounds awesome.
I want to pick it up.
It's like giving Batman wings. You just don't do it.
Hey, I was reading the old threads and noticed you all seem to agree that Ultimate Iron Man was a terrible comic. Why?
What's next - making Reed Richards's intelligence a "power".
Isn't he able to "stretch" his brain to become smarter or something?