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selfishmisery

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I can't find the Tweet at the moment, but Neil Gaiman seemingly confirmed that the Sandman TV series will have no connection to Lucifer (the show).
 

selfishmisery

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Expected, but unfortunate nonetheless.
Sandman is Neil Gaiman's most cherished work, I would assume. I feel like it is definitely something he wants a lot of control over. 100% control? I'm not sure. It's still a DC property, but we'll have to wait and see.

David Goyer's involvement as a producer makes me think he's going to throw in some ideas along with Gaiman, and Goyer seems like a go-to producer for DC and their live-action properties.

But who knows?
 
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selfishmisery

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Random opinion (admist some dead air): I'd like to think Gotham is set on Supergirl's Earth (Earth-38). Gotham being the "darkness" of Supergirl's "light" world.
One timeless and (somewhat) 'grounded', one contemporary and 'fantastical'. Two parallels representing opposite symbols - fear and hope.

Obviously it can't be set on Earth-1 because of the different Nyssas and Cyrus Golds, Nora Fries being dead in Gotham, etc. Although, I think the idea of Gotham taking place in Earth-38's past would condense things slightly, since Supergirl's Earth already has its own Batman who we still know nothing about. Gotham (the show) could fill that hole, while Batwoman fills the hole of Earth-1's Batman story.
 
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Pro Bot

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Random opinion (admist some dead air): I'd like to think Gotham is set on Supergirl's Earth (Earth-38). Gotham being the "darkness" of Supergirl's "light" world.
One timeless and (somewhat) 'grounded', one contemporary and 'fantastical'. Two parallels representing opposite symbols - fear and hope.

Obviously it can't be set on Earth-1 because of the different Nyssas and Cyrus Golds, Nora Fries being dead in Gotham, etc. Although, I think the idea of Gotham taking place in Earth-38's past would condense things slightly, since Supergirl's Earth already has its own Batman who we still know nothing about. Gotham (the show) could fill that hole, while Batwoman fills the hole of Earth-1's Batman story.
I have the same head-canon.
 

selfishmisery

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The first episode of Pennyworth is available on EPIX Now.

Also, posting this again due to the site mishap - Pennyworth is confirmed to be set in the same continuity as Gotham

Cannon revealed the series is essentially prequel to the Fox series Gotham. “I would say so, yes,” Cannon said, contradicting the publicity materials that for months now have described Pennyworth as untethered to any existing Batman mythology.
 

selfishmisery

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MASSIVE Swamp Thing series finale spoiler

Matthew Cable is dead. I hope DC decides to connect his character to Netflix's Sandman show somehow... In episode 9 he even fell asleep in his car. (In the comics, he dreamed of being a raven right before he died.) That HAD to be intentional set up, right?
 

selfishmisery

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I've never heard of this site, but apparently they have an "exclusive" about Black Lightning.

Edit: Oh... my... god...
http://instagr.am/p/B0tZlDFJpNl/
If we get to the point where half of DC live-action makes it into the crossover, I can't add it all to the DC/CW timeline. It's too much and too tangential, especially if something like BL or the 90s The Flash show are fairly standalone...

We'll have to vote on it, and I mean no disrespect, but I think it should mainly stay Earth-1 and Earth-38; unless there's any event of them traveling to Earth-2 or another Earth in the current shows.
 

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If we get to the point where half of DC live-action makes it into the crossover, I can't add it all to the DC/CW timeline. We'll have to vote on it, but I think it should mainly stay Earth-1 and Earth-38; unless there's any event of them traveling to Earth-2 or another Earth in the current shows.
I don't think it'll be that bad.

Batman (Wonder Woman counting comics)
Superman Returns
Black Lightning

Maybe:
Shazam/Isis
Wonder Woman
Lois & Clark
Smallville (DIrishB already did that one, so it won't be that hard)

I can't imagine Titans, Gotham or the DCEU getting involved. Just old series, really. We'll see. I'd happily watch these shows if I can get a hold of them.
 

selfishmisery

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I don't think it'll be that bad.

60s Batman/70s Wonder Woman
Superman Returns
Black Lightning

Possibly
Lois & Clark
Smallville (DIrishB already did that one)

I can't imagine Titans, Gotham or the DCEU getting involved. Just old series, really. We'll see.
No. That is too much. Too tangential from the ongoing storylines of the Arrowverse outside of Crisis.

Again, I'll have to get other votes on it when I bring it up in the DC/CW thread.
 

selfishmisery

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This will come to a vote when Crisis airs.

As of right now and for the potential future, I don't have the time to watch that many episodes for characters that may just appear for a few minutes at most.
 

Pro Bot

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I understand. What of The Flash (1990) then? I'd assume that would stay, of cause, but it's existance creates an inconsistency with the other shows. Pahaps that should be inserted into it's own timeline?

Maybe just a note at the top of the CW Multiverse should do.

Black Lightning is a CW DC show, so it will probably be in the post-crisis Earth, especially since it's not just going to be cancelled.
 

selfishmisery

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I understand. What of The Flash (1990) then? I'd assume that would stay, of cause, but it's existance creates an inconsistency with the other shows. Pahaps that should be inserted into it's own timeline?

Maybe just a note at the top of the CW Multiverse should do.

Black Lightning is a CW DC show, so it will probably be in the post-crisis Earth, especially since it's not just going to be cancelled.
That's assuming they'll all merge into one Earth. Which I highly doubt. Too messy. :p
 

Pro Bot

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Personally, I'll watch all shows involved with Crisis no matter how small. I think, not saying you should do this, a basic order is easy enough to do, and I know when the breaks between episodes of Black Lightning are and when the episodes take place, month based, thanks to you.

Here's my point, though. I'm sure anyone who wants to do the same would like a note at the top of the Arrowverse timeline stating which shows are in the CW Multiverse, in case they're as crazy as me to do such a thing, or just find it interesting.

Something like:

Shows that aren't technically in the Arrowverse, Earth-1 and Earth-38, but are in the Multiverse and do crossover are:
Batman (Earth-66)
The Flash (Earth-90)
Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman (Earth-92)
Superman Returns (Earth-96)
Smallville (Earth-1001)
Black Lightning (Earth-18)

Messy multiverses, right?
 
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selfishmisery

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Watched the Gotham series finale on Bluray. The scene with Nygma in Arkham towards the beginning has that newspaper date which reads "April 15th".

Eh. I know they mentioned later that Bruce was back after "nearly a decade" for the new Wayne Tower opening. But that newcaster might have not been referring to the Tower, but more so the fact that Bruce has been in Gotham for a few weeks prior. Close enough.
 

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April 15
Gotham
5x12, "The Beginning..." (0:01:09 - 0:08:24)

April 16
Gotham
5x12, "The Beginning..." (0:01:09 - 0:42:39)

Time codes overlap.
 

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