The poster formerly known as captaincanuck65
- Feb 23, 2008
- Toronto, ON (Canada)
My problem with that, is with that mindset, whenever a new comic book movie is in development, shouldn't we automatically compare it to stuff like BATMAN & ROBIN and STEEL?
No, because there are a mixture of both good and bad supehero flicks with male leads. There are NO successful superhero flicks starring women. You'd have to go outside the realm of licensed characters to find one, if that. And not that there's an inherent problem with the idea, it's just that Hollywood seems to have a mystifying problem with them, hence my confusion, and I'm guessing Bass' skepticism.
I'm actually not skeptical it will be bad because two unrelated projects were bad.
I was just being somewhat tongue-in-cheek and pointing out that while I would love one, I've yet to see a good action movie where the protagonist was a woman. (I can't think of any.)
But it was more just a throwaway bit of sarcasm, not really a 'point' or anything. As the Cap'n said, I was just raining on the parade.
I actually liked Salt, it was a pretty decent action flick with a female lead. With that said, I'd like to see someone, OTHER than Angelina Jolie do a strong female action heroine.
I've not seen SALT. I think the reason it's so hard to get it right is that women aren't particularly adept at acting in that role. That's not so much a sexist thing, but a cultural one. Until, what... the 80s with ALIEN and THE TERMINATOR, women were never the leads in any type of action story ever. As such there is not much of a cultural or historical element in the world for women to draw on in these roles. Women until recently could not be cops and soldiers and so on. Women as a physical power is only very recent, and it's been gradual. Action women are primarily the protagonist of horror movies, in which it's physical but they're a victim. The proper action heroine is really still in its fledgling state, so it's harder for women to pull the roll off. It's kind of like green-screen acting. The totally immersive green-screen in which there is just no props at all, just one guy in a costume, is really rather new. The only place it's been done before is really theatre which is very abstract in its sets when it calls for epic scale (such as Shakespeare) as opposed to more mundane one-room-in-a-contemporary-house type of affair (like Ibsen's A DOLL'S HOUSE). But on the whole, it's so new most actors can't pull it off. It's not that it's impossible, it's just too new. Same for women as action heroines. And it's also true on the other side of the camera; directors aren't sure how to direct them. There are exceptions of course; Tracey Scoggins was very good in BABYLON 5, very tough and strong, as was Charlize Theron in IN THE VALLEY OF ELAH; Karen Allen as Marion in RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, Carrie Ann Moss as Trinity in THE MATRIX. Angelina Jolie seems to be able to do it too. But the directors often find it hard to not direct the movie as though it were a strip show; consider Johannson in IRON MAN 2. She was fine as the Widow but the movie treated her like a strip tease.
I think we need a Toph movie.
And if Iron Man 2 was any indication, I would love to see a movie with more ScarJo action sequences.
seriously! That was by far the best part of the movie. And not just in a "wow, she's hot" kind of way (although that too), it was just the best action sequence in the film.