#1 reason not to join UC
- Nov 30, 2004
Well, just like I TOLD EVERYONE. Loki was not the one to leak the Hulk information... it's someone else on THE ULTIMATES... I'm not gonna be biased so who do you think it is???
Why bother? We've heard it all before. Multiple times.TheManWithoutFear said:Love the variety. Seriously JTG i'm glad you chose Pym.. I will "officially" tell why I chose Black Widow tomrrow.
It came up once, it was put down. It came up twice, it was put down again. Do we really need for me to pull apart your reasoning for a third time?TheManWithoutFear said:Somewhere in some thread, someone said they wanted the Black Widow to betray the Ultimates. I originally didn't like the idea but I think it's a good idea now. It really make the Black Widow her own character.
jtg3885 said:Why bother? We've heard it all before. Multiple times.
It came up once, it was put down. It came up twice, it was put down again. Do we really need for me to pull apart your reasoning for a third time?
Like I said, because Loki is SUCH a credible, honest, and trustworthy individual. He's also apparently a shape-shifter. So that opens up the possibility that while he didn't directly do it, he assumed the guise of someone else to push the person into doing it. Maybe he was Fury and told someone to leak it, hmm? Think outside the box, man. And remember, there is no spoon...TheManWithoutFear said:Yeah, because half the people believed it wouldn't happen... and then this issue
"Loki" revealed it wasn't him (which I called) so it's gotta be someone and now the poll was made and the people have to vote.. :twisted:
Bass said:That leaves Fury. Nick Fury could be the traitor. But again, it does not seem to fit his character. It could be Nick Fury, is unaware of that there is a traitor, and that higher ups in SHIELD simply tell him his orders and he does them while the traitor works on their own within the Ultimates. On the other hand, Fury could indeed be the traitor, but not realise it himself. Fury could believe that he is actually doing good, by using the Ultimates to save the world from all kinds of threats, only to discover that he's been used and manipulated by Loki's allies. This to me, is the most likely suspect. Fury as the traitor (his superiors are SHIELD) but he himself, is most likely, unaware of the damage he is doing. It would certainly make Thor's parting words to Fury in Ultimates #4 more personal and more prophetic. "Oh, I am here to save the world, General Fury. Save it from people like you."
If we go solely on the clues we've been given so far, Fury seems to be the prime suspect. But as more clues come this will no doubt change.
I think #6 will give a big clue.