Ultimate Spiderman #102 discussion (Spoilers)

Not necessarily. The other clones could all have been just experiments, and Jessica was the closest to a pure clone of Peter they could get.

I dunno. . .for some reason, I just like having Jessica be a clone of Peter. She becomes kind of like a twin sister, but works for the government instead, doing what Peter doesn't want to do. I like her a lot better than X-23 for some reason, too.

I don't think any of the clones besides Jessica and whatever the hell Gwarnage is should make it out of the Clone Saga alive. Jessica has the makings of a decent character, and they could do something with Gwen. . .

They purposely made her a girl. They purposely made Tarantula like that. And They purposely made Scorpion. That's what they said in the issue. They weren't just experimenting with unknown side effects (maybe scarface) but I was given the impression they purposely were making them the way they came out.

And yeah, Jessica Drew is gonna survive. Ultimate 3 sketches... where do you think she'll be after this?
 
They purposely made her a girl. They purposely made Tarantula like that. And They purposely made Scorpion. That's what they said in the issue. They weren't just experimenting with unknown side effects (maybe scarface) but I was given the impression they purposely were making them the way they came out.

And yeah, Jessica Drew is gonna survive. Ultimate 3 sketches... where do you think she'll be after this?

Hmmm. . .alright. Still, they were experimenting. "Hey, let's screw around with Parker's DNA and see where it goes." That's all I can really think of if it wasn't just an imperfection.

As far as the Ultimates sketches. . .is that what Loeb had in mind? Did Bendis say "Hey, you want Spider-Woman? Use my idea from the Clone Saga". Still, I could see it. It makes sense.
 
Because you're a masochist? Or you have a ridiculous amount of hope? Or you're a fanboy? Or you're a completeist (Which may actually fall under category 1. . .)? Take your pick.
I don't know which of them is the least pathetic. I think I'll go with ridculous amounts of hope for now.
Hmmm. . .alright. Still, they were experimenting. "Hey, let's screw around with Parker's DNA and see where it goes." That's all I can really think of if it wasn't just an imperfection.
I assumed the same thing. They seem to be just seeing what they can do, not really planning what is best. Kinda like, hey I wonder if we could make a girl from this male DNA. They said that it was his blood sample that made all this possible because his DNA was stronger and more durable than a human genome, so maybe this is their first real chance as scientists to test some boundries.
As far as the Ultimates sketches. . .is that what Loeb had in mind? Did Bendis say "Hey, you want Spider-Woman? Use my idea from the Clone Saga". Still, I could see it. It makes sense.
I know she's just a clone, but wouldn't she have the same age problem with joining the Ultimates as Peter.
 
I know she's just a clone, but wouldn't she have the same age problem with joining the Ultimates as Peter.

I think the clone factor makes it null and void. She's property of the government. And if the Ultimates break away from the government. . .well, then its not a problem at all.
 
I think the clone factor makes it null and void. She's property of the government. And if the Ultimates break away from the government. . .well, then its not a problem at all.
Yeah I kind of figured the she's a clone she has no rights thing would pop up, but still physically she's only 15 (or is it 16 now). I just don't want her on the Ultimates. The team's got a certain dynamic and the book has a certain feel and I don't think a 15/16 year old girl fits in with either of them. Not yet anyway.
 
I really don't like Spider-Woman being Pete's clone.

It took me until New Avengers to even like Spider-Woman, and now that I like her they do this to her.

Screw it, I'm dropping all Bendis titles. If the sales drop enough he'll try harder instead of this phoned in ****.
 
Am I the only guy who noticed Fury/Shield and the Fantastic Four accompanying Doctor Octavius on that last panel?

No, you weren't.

Just read the issue ten minutes ago. I'll be disappointed if Peter is not thinking a serious *** kicking is in store.
 
You know, you dont have to cut n00bs down every time they post about spiderman. Its possible for people to actually want to see the Scarlet Spider.

I mean, it was the coolest thing that came out of the original Clone Saga, and its one of the better costumes. Although I dont really care if we see S.S. or not, I think it could be done well.

He doesn't have too, He lik... Loves too. Its like reading porn, he just can't help himself. If he doesn't cut someone down, it eats away at him. Your best bet is just skip over what he posted and not post anything about it. Cause he'll set his sights for you... P.S. I bet he'll say something about this and me. In is "special" way, or at least roll his eyes at it.

Anyways, I like this one. Like VVD I think its a lot better than the last one and hoping that all we can do is go up from here.
 
I really don't like Spider-Woman being Pete's clone.

It took me until New Avengers to even like Spider-Woman, and now that I like her they do this to her.

Screw it, I'm dropping all Bendis titles. If the sales drop enough he'll try harder instead of this phoned in ****.

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I like that Octavius is behind this.
I like that Jessica Drew is Peter's clone.
I do not like MJ Goblin, but I'm sure Madam Web will clear her mind of that personality.

I still think that this is the best USM has been for a long time.
 
I like that Octavius is behind this.
I like that Jessica Drew is Peter's clone.
I do not like MJ Goblin, but I'm sure Madam Web will clear her mind of that personality.

I still think that this is the best USM has been for a long time.

I dunno that Sasquach thing isnt a personality if anything she can put some mental block.


Though i dont know if she will be cured i mean look at harry.


Oh and if Spider-woman joins the Ultimates does that mean she will get her memory's erased?
 
Stacy Project will be them trying to reclaim the life-essence of those who were taken by Carnage.

Betchoo.
 
One of the clones needs to punch Ben Reilly in the nuts. "Oh, you have the memories of a boy but now you're a girl! Don't worry, we'll wipe your mind and destroy your personality. By the way, I'm doing this to you so I won't get my loser *** thrown in jail!"

MJ GOBLIN IS GONE! MJ GOBLIN IS GONE! When Jessica was pulling that really white, really clean sheet over her, where did it come from? They're in the middle of the dingy laboratory.

I really like Jessica Drew. She's a cool character and I love the way she's drawn--she really does look like a sister of Peter. I liked the truck scene. She almost makes up for Tarantula the Teenage Werewolf. For crap's sake, he had fangs and pointed ears!

Another freak-out from Peter this issue, but his comment to Tarantula, about how the "Oh my God"s can come later, makes me think that Peter's going to get over the nervous breakdown he's been having and start kicking ***. Preferably starting with Doc Ock--and why is Ock there with Reed and Fury? I bet he (Ock) drove his "son" crazy on purpose.

The way Cassandra Webb was drawn made me think she might be someone Peter's met before in disguise. She has wig-like hair and very chunky sunglasses and a mole--all the kind of thing you might wear if you wanted to distract people from noticing who you really are.

One last thing--the clones seemed really familiar for people who saw each other for five seconds, talked all over each other and then ran away. Jessica was asking about Scorpion and the first thing she did in Oscorp was haul Tarantula out of MJ Goblin's way. I guess it must be their shared experiences and memories.
 
One of the clones needs to punch Ben Reilly in the nuts. "Oh, you have the memories of a boy but now you're a girl! Don't worry, we'll wipe your mind and destroy your personality. By the way, I'm doing this to you so I won't get my loser *** thrown in jail!"

MJ GOBLIN IS GONE! MJ GOBLIN IS GONE! When Jessica was pulling that really white, really clean sheet over her, where did it come from? They're in the middle of the dingy laboratory.

I really like Jessica Drew. She's a cool character and I love the way she's drawn--she really does look like a sister of Peter. I liked the truck scene. She almost makes up for Tarantula the Teenage Werewolf. For crap's sake, he had fangs and pointed ears!

Another freak-out from Peter this issue, but his comment to Tarantula, about how the "Oh my God"s can come later, makes me think that Peter's going to get over the nervous breakdown he's been having and start kicking ***. Preferably starting with Doc Ock--and why is Ock there with Reed and Fury? I bet he (Ock) drove his "son" crazy on purpose.

The way Cassandra Webb was drawn made me think she might be someone Peter's met before in disguise. She has wig-like hair and very chunky sunglasses and a mole--all the kind of thing you might wear if you wanted to distract people from noticing who you really are.

One last thing--the clones seemed really familiar for people who saw each other for five seconds, talked all over each other and then ran away. Jessica was asking about Scorpion and the first thing she did in Oscorp was haul Tarantula out of MJ Goblin's way. I guess it must be their shared experiences and memories.

ont think webb is someone in disguise really douubt it.

Also i dont think MJ goblin is gone for good...it should...but i dont think it is..
 
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I wasn't too far off with my 'Hulk-Lite' comment, was I?

After the last issue, I was torn about the series in general. I felt that Bendis had hit upon a novel concept, but was growing a little lazy in the execution. Gwen's metamorphosis into not!Carnage and regression, Mary's own transformation into the furriest-Demogoblin-that-could, (which is weird in itself, given that the 616 Demogoblin was quite reptilian in appearance,) and with more questions than answers coming. Granted, Bendis achieved his goal of making you need to have the next issue in hopes for a clue as to what the f--k is going on, but a well-conceived dramatic story would have done so better than the two "shockers" per issue we've gotten thus far.

Now this month I can see Bendis writing his way out of the quagmire of the last couple of issues. We get a glimpse into the world of genetic warfare, and with it a few insights into the other Ultimate titles.

1) SHIELD attempts to develop a new Super-Soldier formula... they instead get the Hulk.

2) OsCorp attempts to develop a new Super-Soldier formula... they get the Goblin family, Doc Ock, the happy accident that is Peter Parker, and a bunch of dead scientists.

3) The C.I.A. attempts to clone Peter for a spider-powered super-army...

... sensing the pattern here? And this is only the tip of the iceberg concerning genetic disasters in the UU. The implications are creepy as hell, as seen with the calvacade of Spider-Clones escaping to save a Mary Jane who doesn't need saving. Genetic Memory is touched upon as well, with Jessica's memory of being a guy, not!Kaine's perverse desire to save the girl, and finally Gwen herself, who may or may not be part of the experiment.

A few answers are had, yes, but this should be far-reaching in the UU, particularly touching the Ultimates. In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the conclusion of this arc.

-Matt
 
ont think webb is someone in disguise really douubt it.

Also i dont think MJ goblin is gone for good...it should...but i dont thin it is..
Oh come on. Are you even trying to spell correctly? The English major in me is getting angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
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Oh come on. Are you even trying to spell correctly? The English major in me is getting angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
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My grammar is horrible what can i say.


Though i feel i should apoligise for it....so sorry:oops:
 
Oh, crap! I was so excited by this issue that I forgot to mention--in the letters page, Bendis says the next storyline will be Ultimate Knights! Am I the only one who noticed this?

I'm ****ing sick of the Ultimate Knights and they haven't even appeared yet.
 

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