Wildstorm universe?

compound

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I realize that not everybody is reading ALL the individual titles resulting from the WorldStorm relaunch. However, some of us (like me) DO want to keep up with the overall concepts that are being reintroduced into the "new" reality (for the sake of writing fic, etc.).

Could we use this thread to update the present status of the main concepts from the "old" universe?

I know it's still early, but we can always post updates, as the series progress.

Here are the main concepts:

- Weathermen
- Daemonites
- Kherubim
- The Bleed
- The Snowflake Multiverse (no longer canon, post-WorldStorm?)
- International Operations
- TAO's organization (presumably defunct after the relaunch, but who knows?)
- The Halo Corporation
- Shiftships
- The Coda
- Century Babies
- "Gen-Actives" (the various numbered "Teams" 0-7, and Project: Genesis)

(Yes, I know, I really ought to have posted this in the Worldstorm discussion thread, because my concern is related to the relaunch, but I felt that thread is more relevant for discussion of the actual series/titles/stories, while my question is related to the universe, as a whole.)
 
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ProjectX2

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From what I've read so far, they haven't brought up any old concepts (at least the one's I'm aware of) yet.

The things you listed are what made old Wildstorm so great, and what makes me so sad when I see the Worldstorm stuff. :(
 

compound

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Incidentally, can anybody recommend a decent Wildstorm-related message board or mailing list, if one exists?
 

ProjectX2

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compound

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EDIT: I also just discovered this Wildstorm Wiki-in-progress: http://wildstormresource.wetpaint.com/
HOLY SWEET BEJEEZUS! This is exactly the kind of resource I wanted to help contribute to.

EDIT: Okay, it seems I have my work cut out for me -- after browsing around for a while, it now appears they barely have ANY of the aspects that I find most intetresting about the Wildstorm Universe. Still, it's a nice open-source resource that I can edit, so that's all good.
 
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Joe Kalicki

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I have seriously 90% of the Wildstorm universe prior to Captain Atom: Armageddon. Every time I go to the comic shop I think about getting this new stuff, but I pass. It almost makes me want to cry, and I've survived two Legion relaunches.
 

Ninja4peace

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I got a question I think I'm missing something: I read captain atom and Wildcats: nemesis and there all talking about the defunct Halo organisation...like it doesn't exist anymore..but that's not the impression I got from the end of Wildcats 3.0 ...was casey forced to wrap up his story...there seems like a lot of unresolved threads..like voodoo and that deamonite and what happens to void before captain atom? I think there must be something to read in between 3.0 and nemesis/armaggedon, but I don't know what?
 

Joe Kalicki

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I got a question I think I'm missing something: I read captain atom and Wildcats: nemesis and there all talking about the defunct Halo organisation...like it doesn't exist anymore..but that's not the impression I got from the end of Wildcats 3.0 ...was casey forced to wrap up his story...there seems like a lot of unresolved threads..like voodoo and that deamonite and what happens to void before captain atom? I think there must be something to read in between 3.0 and nemesis/armaggedon, but I don't know what?

Nothing, really. All that stuff should be (but may never be) dealt with in Morrison's Wildcats, if that ever resumes.

I can tell you that Void is a different person than the original character.
 

Ninja4peace

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Nothing, really. All that stuff should be (but may never be) dealt with in Morrison's Wildcats, if that ever resumes.

i'd like to see how a company that sells infinitely long-lasting batteries and all the clever things Casey was doing with that frnachise, could ever go bust?

I can tell you that Void is a different person than the original character.
Starts off bonding with someone in wildC.A.T.s, then bonds with someone diffferent in vol2...in 3.0 it's onto Jack Marlowe...I get that..but then for Cap-atom armageddon, void is like a rock or something,
and a bit went in Captain atom, but most went in that girl - who I'm guessing is the new void post-worldstorm.

I wouldn't mind even if it were just an annual or something to go in and sort all that out...there must've been some idea before people just started referring to the defunct Halo organisation and void went from jack marlowe to a rock....did jack marlowe become a rock, and so he left halo to grifter who liquidized it? or made it public (internationalised) or something?
 

Joe Kalicki

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Before Worldstorm I fell out of Wildstorm for a couple years so I'm not too sure. I went back and bought all the issues I missed, but I haven't read them yet.

I know in Wildcats: Armageddon Spartan was back to being Spartan somehow, but that took place in the future. . .
 

Jaggyd

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When the **** is Morrison going to finish Wildcats and Authority?

He's not, Christos Gage has taken over. It appears they're having their own Final Crisis in the form of the Number of the Beast.
 

Ninja4peace

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I gave up on Wildstorm about 6 months ago...Seems like since none of the big teams... wildcats and authority and stormwatch prime ..were actually getting books out they just did what they've been doing in the DCU proper.....that is releasing issue after issue of WildStorm Universe.

Except the thing is rather than 52 issues aimlessly wandering around with mini's to find out more about a particular pointless subplot, we're treated to half a dozen mini-series that all lead on from each other (kinda like story arcs do when you read an ongoing) and yet each mini just seems to be another tour of the WSU where the characters run into Wildcats one issue and authority the next then for some reason they go to stormwatch phd or even to tranquility....it's like every mini is captain atom style welcome to the WSU...except none are as good as that was, and that wasn't amazing. Just didn't really get gripped by the story or the lack of characterisation.

I think gage reckons himself the Geoff Johns of wildstorm...and while Geoff johns can get away with having one charcter in one scene in an issue of JSA and it's great characterisation....gage just can't quite hold down all these characters in the same way to give them enough face time, which is a shame I'd say on balance I'm maybe even more interested in the Wildstorm characters, but I don't think it'll ever get as good as the Eye-of-the-storm era....

That was great, I mean Brubaker's Sleeper and Authority, and Joe Casey's Wildcats 3.0 ..that was all just something different, a whole universe with that sean phillips real life feel to it, and at both ends of the spectrum.
 
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Wash

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I still trying to cling on to these books. I jumped on a bunch of them during "WorldStorm" and I dunno. I wanna support these books in hopes that maybe if they can just be given the chance to run for a while they could develop some good stories. But I am 26 issues into Gen13 and I am just not feeling these characters at all. Maybe it was the failed reboot, failed seperation from said reboot and then hiatus & second reboot that is hurting it. Or maybe Gen13 just sucks. Hell, Gen13 and Wildcats are the only Wildstorm books I get now anyway. I don't even know if there was a point to this post. Damn.
 

Ninja4peace

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They put really good writers on a lot of these books, but i guess the writers didn't realise that even tho the books haven't got high figures, they all need to be pretty decent for the universe to survive. I mean the number of people who'd give their right arm to write Wildcats or Authority or another comic in this universe. Some of the best comics ever have been written here, and with Marvel and DC going retro and bringing back the ilver/golden age i think it's more important than ever we've got this alternative still relatively young universe that should be moving forward, pushing boundaries trying new things.

I haven't read any for ages is azzarello still doing deathblow? did that make any sense? it seemed a bit too Lost for me. Though i was enjoying it. I think Gen13 switched writers from simone to someone else. THe new person was someone i'd been recommended but i can't member. Simones run was good. And the Stormwatch Phd and Tranquility were good, but all those armageddon minis just through me off -every single one was like an introduction to the wildstorm universe and just poor editorial/marketing centred. Are things different now post-armageddon? comics the likes of which you've never read before?
 

ProjectX2

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I'm reading Sleeper and remembering how ****ing awesome this universe was...

Goddammit.
 
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