X-Men Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Revised & Original)

[Regsta]

I also noticed that the Alkali Lake base appears destroyed on the outside when Logan visits at the beginning of X2, in Origins, appears normal, including showing the people arriving to see the Adamantium experiment, what would have caused this?

Since is a industrial complex, prior Stryker take the place to himself to use to his experiments, could have a happened a incident, that's why the complex become abandoned.

 

[Pro Bot]

Maybe. I prefer that she's just a young looking 60/70-something

 

[Regsta]

Maybe. I prefer that she's just a young looking 60/70-something

Actually, I just pretend that she looks like old, I ignore that she looks like 30.

 

[UltimateWhovian7]

Moira's comic mutant ability is the ability to reincarnate. It's possible that she did unlock her mutant potential after being killed in duty, therefore reincarnating into the woman we see in The Last Stand.

 

[Regsta]

Hi, I rewatched X-Men: Origins Wolverine the other day, and I had 2 questions:

1) How did Stryker's team find Scott/Cyclops? They don't have a Cerebro or anything like that, we see that he already has his mutant powers awakened, because he is wearing glasses, which he definitely got through his brother Alex, who asked Hank/Beast to make, in Original Timeline, Alex didn't take Scott to school, like he did in Revised Timeline, in Apocalypse.

2) How did Stryker get away with being arrested in the post-credits scene, for having been accused of killing the general he killed in the movie, did he accused Wade Sr. for this and Three Mile Island incident?, because as we saw in X2, he is working in a government department, he is fine.

What headcanons/theories do you have?

You guys have theories/answers about this?

 

[Regsta]

And you guys have theories about where the Sentinels during the original trilogy?

 

[UltimateWhovian7]

And you guys have theories about where the Sentinels during the original trilogy?

The Sentinels heavily appeared in the tie-in video game released alongside The Last Stand, as well as the video game adaptation of Origins: Wolverine. They were always about but never given any proper focus until Days Of Future Past.

 

[Regsta]

The Sentinels heavily appeared in the tie-in video game released alongside The Last Stand, as well as the video game adaptation of Origins: Wolverine. They were always about but never given any proper focus until Days Of Future Past.

I have the headcanon that they were descontinued and kept deactived, after Bolivar Trask's death, without government support. Trask Industries kept Mystique's DNA safe after torturing and experimenting on her. After The Last Stand, things started to get complicated and then the idea of using Sentinels came up again, so they started working again with Mystique's DNA that Trask Industries already have, after they have her in their custody, and later with Rogue's DNA too.

A sentinel-like robot appears in danger room simulation in X3, Because both Hank and Charles knew about Sentinels in 70s, so he create a simulation with him to danger room to training X-Men.

I know about the games, but I think the movies ignore the events of the games.

 

[Regsta]

I have the headcanon that they were descontinued and kept deactived, after Bolivar Trask's death, without government support. Trask Industries kept Mystique's DNA safe after torturing and experimenting on her. After The Last Stand, things started to get complicated and then the idea of using Sentinels came up again, so they started working again with Mystique's DNA that Trask Industries already have, after they have her in their custody, and later with Rogue's DNA too.

A sentinel-like robot appears in danger room simulation in X3, Because both Hank and Charles knew about Sentinels in 70s, so he create a simulation with him to danger room to training.

I know about the games, but I think the movies ignore the events of the games.

Also, Raven, after her time in Trask Industries' custody, didn't warn about the use of her powers in Sentinels in Original Trilogy, because she wasn't aware to the science behind the experiments on her, she didn't know that her mutation was going to be used to Sentinels.

 

[Regsta]

You guys have theories/answers about this?

1- I think Stryker learned about a mutant in Ohio, that have optic blast in eyes, then he send his crew to investigate, which they find the mutant's identity, which is Scott Summers, so Stryker send Victor to capture him.

2- He used Wade's blade to kill the general, Stryker will blame Wade Wilson Sr and get away with it, and he will invent a story involving ''Barakapool'' about Three Mile Island Incident, which he is a mutant that went crazy and destroyed the place. We know he got away with it, as seen in X2.

 

[selfishmisery]

I have the headcanon that they were descontinued and kept deactived, after Bolivar Trask's death, without government support. Trask Industries kept Mystique's DNA safe after torturing and experimenting on her. After The Last Stand, things started to get complicated and then the idea of using Sentinels came up again, so they started working again with Mystique's DNA that Trask Industries already have, after they have her in their custody, and later with Rogue's DNA too.

A sentinel-like robot appears in danger room simulation in X3, Because both Hank and Charles knew about Sentinels in 70s, so he create a simulation with him to danger room to training X-Men.

I know about the games, but I think the movies ignore the events of the games.

That's kinda what The Gifted was alluding to, but the July 15th 2013 event in that is what made Trask Industries start-up shop again and go full police-state via Sentinel Services.

In the main Earth-10005 timeline, however, they didn't go public with the Sentinel program (at least not in the same circumstances) and just stayed in the background.

 

[Pro Bot]

Moira's comic mutant ability is the ability to reincarnate. It's possible that she did unlock her mutant potential after being killed in duty, therefore reincarnating into the woman we see in The Last Stand.

It's a bit different to that in the comics. She's actually reset to her birth.

 

[Regsta]

That's kinda what The Gifted was alluding to, but the July 15th 2013 event in that is what made Trask Industries start-up shop again and go full police-state via Sentinel Services.

In the main Earth-10005 timeline, however, they didn't go public with the Sentinel program (at least not in the same circumstances) and just stayed in the background.

In main timeline, in 1973, the Sentinels went to reveal to the public, with President Nixon welcomes them, etc, but I think shortly, Nixon had changed of mind and gave up the Sentinels, thought it's too dangerous, they discontinued the project, until they decide to use again after The Last Stand until 2023. That's why they don't show up in original trilogy.

https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/25_Moments

 

[selfishmisery]

In main timeline, in 1973, the Sentinels went to reveal to the public, with President Nixon welcomes them, etc, but I think shortly, Nixon had changed of mind and gave up the Sentinels, thought it's too dangerous, they discontinued the project, until they decide to use again after The Last Stand until 2023. That's why they don't show up in original trilogy.

https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/25_Moments

That was my guess is that when first introduced, plans didn't go forward, the public eventually forgot in the following decades, and it only became public again for the reasons given in 25 Moments.

 

[myusernameyes]

Moira's comic mutant ability is the ability to reincarnate. It's possible that she did unlock her mutant potential after being killed in duty, therefore reincarnating into the woman we see in The Last Stand.

Except that's a retcon that was realized years after the movie's release

 

[selfishmisery]

Except that's a retcon that was realized years after the movie's release

No. Plastic surgery.

 

[Regsta]

Guys, I have a explanation about have teen and children in 2023, in DOFP's ending. In Logan, it is stated that no new mutants have been born in North America for 25 years, since 2004, what if the teen and children mutants are not americans, the school accept any student from around the world, like Colossus, for example. They could from countries that speak english too.

What do you think? Make sense?

 

[Regsta]

How did Apocalypse awaken in Revised Timeline?: Because Moira McTaggart removed the rug, letting sunlight, powered the pyramid that brought Apocalypse back. The Cult of Apocalypse didn't know the sunlight was needed to powered the pyramid, so they kept the rug over the entrance, pretty much all the time, to hide it. The Cult of Apocalypse didn't exist in Original Timeline, so they didn't try to awaken him, that's why he never awake in Original Timeline.

 

[selfishmisery]

How did Apocalypse awaken in Revised Timeline?: Because Moira McTaggart removed the rug, letting sunlight, powered the pyramid that brought Apocalypse back. The Cult of Apocalypse didn't know the sunlight was needed to powered the pyramid, so they kept the rug over the entrance, pretty much all the time, to hide it. The Cult of Apocalypse didn't exist in Original Timeline, so they didn't try to awaken him, that's why he never awake in Original Timeline.

I think his cult members knew about his hiding place, and they were unable to reach him.

 

[Regsta]

I think his cult members knew about his hiding place, and they were unable to reach him.

I think 1973 altered, post-DOFP, caused the cult's existence, so they reach to find his pyramid, which didn't happen in original timeline.

 

[Regsta]

Guys, I have a explanation about have teen and children in 2023, in DOFP's ending. In Logan, it is stated that no new mutants have been born in North America for 25 years, since 2004, what if the teen and children mutants are not americans, the school accept any student from around the world, like Colossus, for example. They could from countries that speak english too.

What do you think? Make sense?

What do you think?, fix the plot hole?

 

[selfishmisery]

What do you think?, fix the plot hole?

Species can be labeled extinct when a few more are born or remain. It's ensured extinction by 2004, essentially.

 

[Regsta]

Species can be labeled extinct when a few more are born or remain. It's ensured extinction by 2004, essentially.

So mutants were born after 2004, but in small numbers, which was considered/classified as extinction?

 

[Regsta]

Also I saw in Reddit, that someone had a headcanon that Moira from The Last Stand is actually her niece, that she have a brother that name his daughter after her, maybe she died in duty as CIA agent, it's in the comments. So based in this headcanon, Moira's niece become a medical scientist and doctor, later met Professor X and become a friend.

 

[Regsta]

So mutants were born after 2004, but in small numbers, which was considered/classified as extinction?

So the teen/children mutants in DOFP's ending are not a plot hole.

 

[Regsta]

So when it is said that no mutants have been born in 25 years in Logan, it actually means that almost no mutants are born, very few are born, not that there have been no more mutants born since 2004. Like, ''there haven't been (practically) any mutants born for 25 years''.

 

[Regsta]

Also I saw in Reddit, that someone had a headcanon that Moira from The Last Stand is actually her niece, that she have a brother that name after her, it's in the comments. So based in this headcanon, this Moira become a medical scientist and doctor, later met Professor X and become a friend.

I actually like this headcanon, explains/fix Moira being younger and have a different job in The Last Stand, but it's just my opinion.

 

[Regsta]

Also, other headcanon that I have is the Jubilee from Apocalypse is the mother of Jubilee of original trilogy, the daughter get the same nickname of her mother in the school. Jubilee in Apocalypse is only credit as ''Jubilee'', the one of original trilogy is credited with her civilian name ''Jubilation Lee''.

 

[Regsta]

So when it is said that no mutants have been born in 25 years in Logan, it actually means that almost no mutants are born, very few are born, not that there have been no more mutants born since 2004. Like, ''there haven't been (practically) any mutants born for 25 years''.

@selfishmisery is that what you meant?

 

[selfishmisery]

@selfishmisery is that what you meant?

I'm kinda busy at the moment.