Marvel Cinematic Universe News, Rumors, and Discussion

[DIrishB]

Captain America - Civil War (May 6th, 2016)
Doctor Strange (November 4th, 2016)
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (May 5th, 2017)
Thor - Ragnarok (July 28th, 2017)
Black Panther (November 3rd, 2017)
Avengers - Infinity War, Part I (May 4th, 2018)
Captain Marvel (July 6, 2018)
Inhumans (November 2nd, 2018)
Avengers - Infinity War, Part II (May 5th, 2019)

That is a heck of a line up for the next 5 years.

While none of it is terribly surprising (in the sense that reliable rumors--like the Civil War rumor, the expectations of Black Panther, Captain Marvel getting a film, Inhumans being the MCU's solution to the lack of "mutants", Avengers 3 being split into two films as Infinity War does, etc--or blatant foreshadowing--Thanos in Avengers post credit scene, regarding the Infinity War films.

So while we knew it was coming, it's still great to have it confirmed and something to look forward to. Marvel and DC are in the ring. And it's going to be a glorious match.

one example : Just 7 months ago http://screenrant.com/ms-marvel-black-widow-movie/ Then DC announced Wonder woman and ... yeah.

Eh, I don't like to play favorites as I'm looking forward to seeing what both studios bring.

As for Captain Marvel being announced as a response to the Wonder Woman solo film? Very possible. However, Captain Marvel was a favorite on Feige's list of films he wanted made (along with Black Panther, Doctor Strange, and Ant-Man), and that definitely predates the Wonder Woman solo film announcement.

Like I said, debating who did what first is an exercise in frustration.

It's good thing though that they are but DC announced a trailer for Batman/superman and people on websites were like "lol they are just coping marvel's avengers 2 trailer" i was just pointing out its a 2 way street.

It most definitely is.

Based on the nature of comics both will copy both (as they have similar audiences so they judge what should work ect...) There was rumours of Batman/Superman team up movie years before any of the avengers films (hell poster is in "I am Legend") But all people respond to is which got officially announced first

Well, to be fair, that was just an Easter Egg in another movie.

And to also be fair, it's probably a sure thing that the success of the first Avengers film (and the Phase 1 films overall) is what motivated Warner Bros to realize the cash cow they'd have if they used the many beloved DC comics characters they held the rights to (all of the rights, which gives DC/Warner Bros an advantage since it's arguable Marvel won't see the Spider-Man, X-Men, etc film rights back for a long time).

So I just look at it that I'm psyched for what both studios and series bring to the table. Marvel has the advantage of a 5 year head start, introducing/reviving the concept of the shared film universe (started way back in the 1930's with the Universal monster crossover films), and generally leading the way.

DC has an advantage in the fact they own all their characters various rights, can learn from Marvel's mistakes, and can hopefully do for the entire DC Film Universe what Marvel's done with theirs, while taking their own approach.

 

[wyokid]

There was rumours of Batman/Superman team up movie years before any of the avengers films (hell poster is in "I am Legend") But all people respond to is which got officially announced first

That's true. To be honest it doesn't really matter to me who was first, I just want them to both be good.

 

[SSJmole]

And to also be fair, it's probably a sure thing that the success of the first Avengers film (and the Phase 1 films overall) is what motivated Warner Bros to realize the cash cow they'd have if they used the many beloved DC comics characters they held the rights to (all of the rights, which gives DC/Warner Bros an advantage since it's arguable Marvel won't see the Spider-Man, X-Men, etc film rights back for a long time).

So I just look at it that I'm psyched for what both studios and series bring to the table. Marvel has the advantage of a 5 year head start, introducing/reviving the concept of the shared film universe (started way back in the 1930's with the Universal monster crossover films), and generally leading the way.

DC has an advantage in the fact they own all their characters various rights, can learn from Marvel's mistakes, and can hopefully do for the entire DC Film Universe what Marvel's done with theirs, while taking their own approach.

I agree I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of a lot on line of anything dc does = answer to marvel. anything marvel does = 100% original. It seems a little unfair.

 

[wyokid]

I'm rewatching The Incredible Hulk and the way they realistically applied the Super Soldier Serum to the universe is absolutely genius. America created a magic serum years ago and it created a superhero. Of course America would want that back into our weaponry, they want the biggest and baddest stuff. And because they want the biggest and baddest stuff they'd test it on the biggest and baddest dude and it worked, but Blonsky wanted more power and Steve Rogers didn't which is why Blonsky failed. Also they got the Hulk screaming at lightning scene from Hulk: Gray. Man I love this movie.

 

[DARKKNIGHT]

When DC does something similar to what Marvel has done, it's because they are lazy and copying Marvel's success. When Marvel does something similar to what DC has done, it's because Marvel was actually going to do that the entire time. In all seriousness though, it's a bit silly how much good will people give Marvel, while viewing anything DC does in the worst light possible.

 

[DIrishB]

When DC does something similar to what Marvel has done, it's because they are lazy and copying Marvel's success. When Marvel does something similar to what DC has done, it's because Marvel was actually going to do that the entire time. In all seriousness though, it's a bit silly how much good will people give Marvel, while viewing anything DC does in the worst light possible.

Yeah, I don't get it. DC have certainly used Marvel's success as a barometer for their own Justice League universe. But I'm excited for both. I'm sure Marvel and DC/Warner Bros will both do well at the box office. Can't wait to see them all.

Between 5 new Star Wars films, 8 new DC films, and 11 new Marvel films coming out over the next 5 years, as well as the many television shows, etc, it's a great time to be a comic book fan/geek.

 

[DARKKNIGHT]

Yeah, I don't get it. DC have certainly used Marvel's success as a barometer for their own Justice League universe. But I'm excited for both. I'm sure Marvel and DC/Warner Bros will both do well at the box office. Can't wait to see them all.

Between 5 new Star Wars films, 8 new DC films, and 11 new Marvel films coming out over the next 5 years, as well as the many television shows, etc, it's a great time to be a comic book fan/geek.

I agree. I'll admit that I'm a bit skeptical about whether or not DC is going to be able to pull off what they're doing, but I think you can be skeptical without being negative or mean-spirited. I just seems like a certain contingent of comic book fans really want DC to fail, and relish anytime they stumble, for whatever reason.

 

[Captain Canuck]

Black Panther will make his debut (in costume) in Captain America: Civil War.

Kevin Fiege says Civil War is the start of Phase 3.

And then you'll find out in the Black Panther movie that he's actually Steve Rogers pretending to be Chadwick Boseman.

But seriously, that's super sweet. I'm so excited about all of this.

So in 2015 we have:
the continuation of Agents of SHIELD season 2
Agent Carter TV show
Avengers 2
Daredevil TV show
Ant-Man
Jessica Jones TV show

then in 2016 we get:
Captain America: Civil War
Iron Fist TV show
Luke Cage TV show
Dr Strange
Probably Agents of SHIELD season 3
Maybe Defenders TV miniseries (or the next year)

then in 2017:
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Thor: Ragnarok
Black Panther
Maybe Agents of SHIELD season 4 and other TV shows

then in 2018:
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1
Captain Marvel
Inhumans
TV shows?

then in 2019:
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2
And probably other stuff


wow.

 

[DIrishB]

So in 2015 we have:
the continuation of Agents of SHIELD season 2
Agent Carter TV show
Avengers 2
Daredevil TV show
Ant-Man
Jessica Jones TV show

then in 2016 we get:
Captain America: Civil War
Iron Fist TV show
Luke Cage TV show
Dr Strange
Probably Agents of SHIELD season 3
Maybe Defenders TV miniseries (or the next year)

then in 2017:
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Thor: Ragnarok
Black Panther
Maybe Agents of SHIELD season 4 and other TV shows

then in 2018:
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1
Captain Marvel
Inhumans
TV shows?

then in 2019:
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2
And probably other stuff


wow.

Seriously.

And the Defenders mini definitely comes out in 2017.

Really hoping they get Cumby as Doctor Strange to cameo in Defenders, or even have a substantial role if they can talk him into it. But if not, a simple cameo, much like Fury's in the first Iron Man. He appears at the end of the Defenders series and recruits the four heroes.

A Defenders feature film comes later, maybe in 2019 or afterward.

With Marvel wrapping up the plot lines of the main Avengers characters (Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye) by the end of Infinity War, Part II, it's obvious Marvel is looking forward past A-IW2, and lining up new heroes beforehand: Ant-Man, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Wanda and Pietro, etc. It would allow Downey to still occasionally appear in cameos (something he's said he's very open to, especially since those roles don't involve a lot of physicality), and leave the action to the new team.

I'm sure GotG2, Captain Marvel, Inhumans, will all have some elements tying them together besides just the cosmic angle. I have a feeling they'll all serve, to varying degrees, as a prelude of the Infinity War films.

Seriously, knowing they're splitting Infinity War into two films leaves a lot of room to include... well, everybody.

The new Avengers team (Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Ant-Man, Wanda and Pietro) form in the aftermath of Age of Ultron and the likelihood the team splits and some members perhaps even die. The events of Civil War will undoubtedly impact the new team in some form.

By the time Thanos shows up with the fully loaded Infinity Gauntlet on Earth at the beginning of Avengers - Infinity War, Part 1, the new team will likely be completely outmatched. Hell, the old team would've been. Part 2 will hopefully have the original team (Cap, Tony, Thor--assuming he survives Ragnarok, Hulk, Rhodey, Widow, and Hawkeye), the new team (Ant-Man, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Wanda and Pietro), the Guardians (Starlord, Gamora, Drax, Rocket, and Groot), Inhumans (whichever characters appear in the Inhumans films, well, they'll go here) and a host of other allies (Kree, Inhumans, Asgardians... assuming there are any left after Ragnarok, maybe the Defenders), etc. Then it's a battle royale of superhuman proportions. That is a war I'm looking forward to seeing onscreen.

And I assume the Russo brothers are directing both parts 1 and 2 of Infinity War. That should be a lot of fun.

 

[DIrishB]

Also, regarding the mystery woman in the trailer (at the party scene when Ultron walks in):

http://moviepilot.com/posts/2014/10...oman-is-her-2384876?lt_source=external,manual

She's played by Claudia Kim, an actress from South Korea. What role she plays, especially in regards to being invited to a party populated only by Avengers and former SHIELD personnel (Hawkeye, Black Widow, Maria Hill), and the fact her role is described as a substantive supporting role, makes me wonder if she's not playing a character from the comics, and a substantial one given they've held onto that secret.

 

[Captain Canuck]

Really hoping they get Cumby as Doctor Strange to cameo in Defenders, or even have a substantial role if they can talk him into it. But if not, a simple cameo, much like Fury's in the first Iron Man. He appears at the end of the Defenders series and recruits the four heroes.

A Defenders feature film comes later, maybe in 2019 or afterward.

Definitely. And if there is a Defenders film, Hulk needs to be in it.

I'm sure GotG2, Captain Marvel, Inhumans, will all have some elements tying them together besides just the cosmic angle. I have a feeling they'll all serve, to varying degrees, as a prelude of the Infinity War films.

Seriously, knowing they're splitting Infinity War into two films leaves a lot of room to include... well, everybody.

And also, bookending Captain Marvel and the Inhumans with Avengers 3.1 and 3.2 is a really smart move. It makes those two movies more "important" to the story and will probably boost the box office. I wonder how they're going to tie into the story of the two Avengers movies.

The new Avengers team (Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Ant-Man, Wanda and Pietro) form in the aftermath of Age of Ultron and the likelihood the team splits and some members perhaps even die. The events of Civil War will undoubtedly impact the new team in some form.

By the time Thanos shows up with the fully loaded Infinity Gauntlet on Earth at the beginning of Avengers - Infinity War, Part 1, the new team will likely be completely outmatched. Hell, the old team would've been. Part 2 will hopefully have the original team (Cap, Tony, Thor--assuming he survives Ragnarok, Hulk, Rhodey, Widow, and Hawkeye), the new team (Ant-Man, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Wanda and Pietro), the Guardians (Starlord, Gamora, Drax, Rocket, and Groot), Inhumans (whichever characters appear in the Inhumans films, well, they'll go here) and a host of other allies (Kree, Inhumans, Asgardians... assuming there are any left after Ragnarok, maybe the Defenders), etc. Then it's a battle royale of superhuman proportions. That is a war I'm looking forward to seeing onscreen.

I wouldn't be surprised if at some point Tony doesn't give up being Iron Man and Rhodey takes over, like in the comics. And Cap's got to die and let Bucky take up the mantle. Then with Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Ant-Man (or maybe Giant-Man?), Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch, we've got ourselves a whole new team.

 

[DARKKNIGHT]

I wouldn't be surprised if at some point Tony doesn't give up being Iron Man and Rhodey takes over, like in the comics. And Cap's got to die and let Bucky take up the mantle. Then with Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Ant-Man (or maybe Giant-Man?), Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch, we've got ourselves a whole new team.

Yeah, I think there will be a changing of the guard at some point in these films. Not sure at what point. I'm pretty sure they'll have Steven Rogers and Tony Stark in the Infinity Wars films, at the very least. I think Marvel's biggest challenge is going to be if they can keep the interest of the general movie going public (non-comic book fans) after whatever point in which the original actors start to leave. I kind of have my doubts that Avengers movies featuring Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, Black Panter and/or Captain Marvel would be able to bring in the numbers that the ones featuring the more A-list characters have. Who knows though.

 

[E]

I've never seen them say a female comic lead movie wouldn't do well or anything. Link? Source?

Wasn't it DC/Warner Bros. that said that? Fairly recently?

 

[Ice]

Wasn't it DC/Warner Bros. that said that? Fairly recently?

Yeah, actually I think they did...

 

[Captain Canuck]

Yeah, I think there will be a changing of the guard at some point in these films. Not sure at what point. I'm pretty sure they'll have Steven Rogers and Tony Stark in the Infinity Wars films, at the very least. I think Marvel's biggest challenge is going to be if they can keep the interest of the general movie going public (non-comic book fans) after whatever point in which the original actors start to leave. I kind of have my doubts that Avengers movies featuring Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, Black Panter and/or Captain Marvel would be able to bring in the numbers that the ones featuring the more A-list characters have. Who knows though.

I was thinking that too, but then I remembered that 6 years ago, the general public had very little knowledge, if any of who Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America were. They were B-listers as far as popularity goes. Admittedly, Black Panther, Ant-Man, Captain Marvel, and Vision are C-listers, but the Guardians were D-listers and now they're killing it in the box-office.

 

[E]

I was thinking that too, but then I remembered that 6 years ago, the general public had very little knowledge, if any of who Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America were. They were B-listers as far as popularity goes. Admittedly, Black Panther, Ant-Man, Captain Marvel, and Vision are C-listers, but the Guardians were D-listers and now they're killing it in the box-office.

And while Spider-Man may be a more popular character (or at least was at the time those movies were released), Avengers and Guardians offer incredible storytelling opportunities that Marvel wouldn't have had with Spider-Man and probably never would have been willing or able to take advantage of if they hadn't sold the movie rights.

Which "list" a given character is on doesn't mean much if they take the time and make the effort to make a good story. Look at how good the Avengers, Captain America, or Guardians of the Galaxy movies were compared to basically any of the Spider-Man movies.

(Not to beat a dead horse or get too far off topic, it's just that at the time the Raimi Spider-Man movies cam out would you have ever thought a GotG movie would be bigger and better than those?)

 

[SSJmole]

Wasn't it DC/Warner Bros. that said that? Fairly recently?

I already posted the Marvel link. DC said they were open to Wonder woman thats why she was been put in Batman/superman first

 

[Ice]

I already posted the Marvel link.

Except that it's never stated anywhere that a female lead movie wouldn't work or do well. And in fact, what he says there is really just to throw people off because if he said anything else or in any other way, they'd figure out they had other plans they were working on and weren't ready to talk about.

 

[Captain Canuck]

And while Spider-Man may be a more popular character (or at least was at the time those movies were released), Avengers and Guardians offer incredible storytelling opportunities that Marvel wouldn't have had with Spider-Man and probably never would have been willing or able to take advantage of if they hadn't sold the movie rights.

Which "list" a given character is on doesn't mean much if they take the time and make the effort to make a good story. Look at how good the Avengers, Captain America, or Guardians of the Galaxy movies were compared to basically any of the Spider-Man movies.

(Not to beat a dead horse or get too far off topic, it's just that at the time the Raimi Spider-Man movies cam out would you have ever thought a GotG movie would be bigger and better than those?)

are you disagreeing with me or expanding on what I said? Because I agree with you.

[FANBOYRANT]What frustrates me is that Spider-Man DOES have incredible story-telling opportunities, but they're being wasted by a company that just wants to cash in on the superhero gravy train (to mix my metaphors). Spidey's stories aren't going to ever be as world-shaking or galaxy-spanning as the Avengers or Guardians, and they shouldn't be either of those things. But they can still be amazing stories with fun action. Instead we've gotten some okay stories and some really crappy ones.[/ENDRANT]

 

[DIrishB]

http://youtu.be/pReTh_1uXLM

Heh.

 

[wyokid]

Denny's posted this

 

[mike3717]

Definitely. And if there is a Defenders film, Hulk needs to be in it.

YES!

Too bad they don't have Namor and the Silver Surfer also. That would be pretty kick ass. But yes, def Hulk and Doc Strange.

 

[Ice]

 

[E]

are you disagreeing with me or expanding on what I said? Because I agree with you.

I was more or less going off on a tangent somewhat related to a conversation that took place a few weeks ago about the popularity of the Avengers and Spider-Man.

But it was in agreement with what you said.

 

[Captain Canuck]

I was more or less going off on a tangent somewhat related to a conversation that took place a few weeks ago about the popularity of the Avengers and Spider-Man.

But it was in agreement with what you said.

okay, fair enough.

In other news, this picture needs to be in this thread.

So the general consensus is that we've seen everything but the time and soul gems, yeah? In what movies do we think the other gems will be introduced?

I feel like the soul gem should either be introduced in Dr Strange, or maybe in Guardians 2 if and only if Adam Warlock is going to be in it. I would think the time gem would be introduced in Inhumans or Captain Marvel, but both of them take place after the first part of the Infinity War movie. Maybe Thor 3 or Black Panther? I suppose it could just be introduced at the beginning of Infinity War Part 1. What do you guys think?

 

[freshmaker]

We know about the Avengers adaptations, but here is some confirmation about upcoming Ant-Man MCU comics.

(From the last question at the bottom of the page):
We'll end the week with macroblaster1999, who has a timely question: "With the Marvel Cinematic Universe getting a big game plan formed in the coming years, are there plans to establish ongoing series set in that universe? Perhaps something that's not a one-shot?"

Alonso: We'll always be working on books set in the Cinematic Universe during the window of the movies. The collected editions of those comics end up being some of the best sellers of the year in the book market. So, we've already got plans for "Avengers" and "Ant-Man" next year.

 

[wyokid]

okay, fair enough.

In other news, this picture needs to be in this thread.

Not really spoilers but hidden just in case: picture of Thanos wearing the Gauntlet

You think Warlock's cocoon survived the explosion? I mean, I'm assuming it did, but that's be pretty nuts to get Adam Warlock in the MCU.

 

[DIrishB]

We know about the Avengers adaptations, but here is some confirmation about upcoming Ant-Man MCU comics. (From the last question at the bottom of the page): We'll end the week with macroblaster1999, who has a timely question: "With the Marvel Cinematic Universe getting a big game plan formed in the coming years, are there plans to establish ongoing series set in that universe? Perhaps something that's not a one-shot?" Alonso: We'll always be working on books set in the Cinematic Universe during the window of the movies. The collected editions of those comics end up being some of the best sellers of the year in the book market. So, we've already got plans for "Avengers" and "Ant-Man" next year.

Cool! Not surprising, but still it's good to know they're working on even Ant-Man MCU spin off comics.

You think Warlock's cocoon survived the explosion? I mean, I'm assuming it did, but that's be pretty nuts to get Adam Warlock in the MCU.

Warlock may the the ace in the hole in the final battle with Thanos. I'd guess he may show up in a post credit scene in GotG2.

 

[wyokid]

I think it's amazing that five years ago we would have never even dreamed of having this conversation. Adam Warlock is a movie? We would have never thought that would ever happen. Now we have his cocoon in two and all of Guardians of the Galaxy. This is so damn cool.

 

[DIrishB]

Some MCU news:

Loki will (obviously) return in Thor - Ragnarok, as well as (less obviously) play a role in both Avengers - Infinity War films

...which makes sense since he's obviously on Thanos' ****-list due to losing the staff and failing in his invasion of Earth from the first Avengers.

Also, looks like Loki and Heimdall will also appear in Avengers - Age of Ultron