Marvel Cinematic Universe News, Rumors, and Discussion

[DIrishB]

Huge potential news: Looks Like Marvel & Sony Might Have Struck A Deal To Save Spider-Man! "“If Spider-Man appears in Captain America Civil War, Sony will produce 25% of that film. This also means that Marvel will produce 25% of the next solo Spider-Man which is said to be released in July of 2017. This deal will also allow Sony to use only two of Marvel’s roster in their films and continue the plot from Civil War to make the universe connect well. It appears that Spidey will join the rest of our beloved pals in Avengers: Infinity War Part 1in 2018, then another solo Spidey film in 2019. Sony will still have some creative control over certain aspects, such as the suit, the actor (who must have at least a three movie deal), other castings, and the script (Only with parts involving Spidey). Avi Arad, Kevin Feige, and Matt Tolmach are said to produce anything involving Spidey and Drew Goddard has been chosen to be a possible director for the first solo film. If any Marvel film that involves Spidey is some way misses their release date, Sony will have to pay $100,000,000 and the deal will be kaput. Sony now has three years and nine moths to begin pre-production on Civil War or the FULL rights go back to Marvel.”"

That... can't be right, can it? CA-CW is already slotted for May, 2016... If Sony has 3 years and 9 months to start preproduction on CA-CW (presumably August, 2018), does that mean the release date has changed? Because preproduction started in August 2018 would mean the film wouldn't be out for at least another year and a half or more (likely a 2019 date as mentioned in the article, perhaps a late summer date so as not to step on Avengers - IW, Part 2 at all). Am I misunderstanding something? Perhaps instead of Civil War they meant the next solo Spider-a Man film (which would line up well with solo Spidey film mentioned for 2019).

AWFUL news. Horrible, bad, no good, downright awful news. Get Avi Arad the **** away from Marvel and get Sony the **** away Spider-Man. I'm going to be ****ing livid if this piece of **** is true.

Relax.

Avi Arad will likely be treated like a kid with head lice. None of his "creative input" will likely be taken seriously, let alone used. It's well known that Arad isn't liked by Feige and Marvel Comics editorial in general. I may be wrong but I think Arad may own a stake in Spidey's film rights. It may just be that he's such a high up and long time friend and business ally of Ike Perlmutter so his position is secure, though I think it largely morphing into a role as getting a producers credit without having much input. He gets a check, etc.

Arad has had a producing role for literally almost every Marvel television show and film released in the past 20 years, including the X-Men trilogy, the original Spider-Man trilogy, Iron Man and Incredible Hulk for Marvel Studios, the Blade trilogy, the Punisher films, the Daredevil and Elektra films, the even worse Ghost Rider films, etc. He's got his finger in a lot of pies, but hopefully he doesn't have any real creative control anymore.




I just wonder if this means a new, rebooted Spidey as part of the MCU, or are they going to integrate Andrew Garfield's Spidey into the MCU (which would bring up a host of continuity issues, but nothing completely insurmountable)?

EDIT:

Sony asked for approval over the costume, script (but only the parts specifically involving Spider-Man), and casting, with said actor required to sign a three-picture deal or more. The way this part of the document is worded makes it sound very much like a collaboration rather than one studio having more control than the other. They do however point out that Kevin Feige must serve as a producer, and if for some reason he leaves Marvel, they would be allowed to select his replacement. They also want Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach to be given executive producer credits, and state that it would be pre-agreed that Drew Goddard both writes and directs the first movie.

That does seem to imply a reboot/restart for the character, unless they sign Garfield for another three pictures. Not sure if after the disappointing (but expected) response to ASM2 may have made Sony wary of moving forward with Garfield.

 

[vintsukka]

Movie news sites have had a field day combing through the leaked Sony e-mails, and according to them, Sony was thinking about recasting Spider-Man regardless of the talks with Marvel. It seems Garfield is hard to work with and cocky (at least according to Sony). He also publicly implied that Sony's meddling was to blame for the failure of ASM2: http://screenrant.com/sony-spider-man-andrew-garfield-fired/

Another thing, according to that Mike Colter link, the Jessica Jones series is called AKA Jessica Jones. Was this already known?

EDIT: Oh, and Steven S. DeKnight (showrunner for Daredevil) says that none of the other Netflix series will premiere in 2015: http://screenrant.com/daredevil-tv-show-easter-eggs-season-2-frank-miller/

 

[wyokid]

That... can't be right, can it? CA-CW is already slotted for May, 2016... If Sony has 3 years and 9 months to start preproduction on CA-CW (presumably August, 2018), does that mean the release date has changed? Because preproduction started in August 2018 would mean the film wouldn't be out for at least another year and a half or more (likely a 2019 date as mentioned in the article, perhaps a late summer date so as not to step on Avengers - IW, Part 2 at all). Am I misunderstanding something? Perhaps instead of Civil War they meant the next solo Spider-a Man film (which would line up well with solo Spidey film mentioned for 2019).

This may sound weird, but I swear I read this article on a site and then a couple days later Comicbookmovie posted it as an exclusive. From there Moviepilot picked it up and then other sites followed. I swear this was an older failed plan.

Relax.

Sorry, I'm still very dreading what could be an endless stream of crap Sony Spider-Man films.

Another thing, according to that Mike Colter link, the Jessica Jones series is called AKA Jessica Jones. Was this already known?

Sort of. Back when ABC was going to make the show it was called AKA Jessica Jones with Melissa Rosenberg as the head writer. This is the same show.

EDIT: Oh, and Steven S. DeKnight (showrunner for Daredevil) says that none of the other Netflix series will premiere in 2015: http://screenrant.com/daredevil-tv-show-easter-eggs-season-2-frank-miller/

That's an older report. AKA Jessica Jones is now also coming out 2015.

Marvel and Netflix are proud to announce that Mike Colter will star as Luke Cage in "Marvel's A.K.A. Jessica Jones," an all-new 13-episode series premiering on Netflix in 2015 following "Marvel's Daredevil."

 

[DIrishB]

The premiere date of the Daredevil series is May 1. Same day as Avengers - Age of Ultron.

 

[wyokid]

The premiere date of the Daredevil series is May 1. Same day as Avengers - Age of Ultron.

Source please? I keep seeing a screen shot from Netflix but when I go on Netflix is says something different.

 

[DIrishB]

Source please? I keep seeing a screen shot from Netflix but when I go on Netflix is says something different.

That screenshot is what I'm talking about. What is it saying on Netflix itself that's different?

 

[wyokid]

That screenshot is what I'm talking about. What is it saying on Netflix itself that's different?

The date isn't there at all. Just coming 2015. I literally don't know where that screenshot came from and in the age of photoshop...

 

[DIrishB]

The date isn't there at all. Just coming 2015. I literally don't know where that screenshot came from and in the age of photoshop...

Yeah but Stephen DeKnight (one of the showrunners) said in an interview it would premiere in May, 2015. Granted the May 1 date may be just a placeholder or made up by a fan using Photoshop as you said, however there is a certain logic to it.

Think about it. Fans go see Avengers - Age of Ultron on opening day of opening weekend, then come home and decide to check out Daredevil by getting a Netflix subscription. Profit synergy.

I wouldn't put it past Marvel to capitalize on the success of A-AoU to interest fans in checking DD out.

 

[wyokid]

Yeah but Stephen DeKnight (one of the showrunners) said in an interview it would premiere in May, 2015. Granted the May 1 date may be just a placeholder or made up by a fan using Photoshop as you said, however there is a certain logic to it.

Think about it. Fans go see Avengers - Age of Ultron on opening day of opening weekend, then come home and decide to check out Daredevil by getting a Netflix subscription. Profit synergy.

I wouldn't put it past Marvel to capitalize on the success of A-AoU to interest fans in checking DD out.

Oh don't think I have been drooling over the thought. They did release Agents of SHIELD and The Winter Soldier the same day too and, as you said, we've known May 2015 for quite a while. As much as I want I need better proof is all.

 

[Ice]

Daredevil premieres on April 10th.

[video=youtube;h334vn103YM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h334vn103YM[/video]

 

[DIrishB]

Daredevil premieres on April 10th. YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h334vn103YM

Nice! Looks like the May date was a bit late!

Still, that's great news. In just about 3 months, I'll be marathoning Daredevil.

 

[freshmaker]

This is a great article about the MCU Official Tie-In Comics. The article has some information about the future comics as well as a little bit about new canonical bits in some of the previous adaptations.

 

[DIrishB]

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This is a great article about the MCU Official Tie-In Comics. The article has some information about the future comics as well as a little bit about new canonical bits in some of the previous adaptations.

Very interesting. So it seems the Ant-Man Prelude will take place sometime between 1961 and 1989... doesn't narrow it down much, as we knew it would occur sometime during the Cold War. I'm sure the issues themselves will provide a more specific year placement.

The Avengers - Age of Ultron: Cinematic Infinite Prelude also will apparently take place sometime before Captain America - The Winter Soldier (and after the first Avengers film), since it focuses on how Strucker obtained Loki's staff.

The only adaptation so far that offered a new scene not seen in the film itself was the Iron Man 2 adaptation, as noted in the article. So far, none of the other adaptations have featured new scenes or dialogue that I've noticed. I'll be sitting down and checking out the two recently released Avengers adaptation issues, and breaking those up and inserting the pages into the film entries. I'll see if there's anything new in that one, but I doubt it.

And while the adaptations are largely just repetitive of what's seen in the films, they are canon so I include them in the timeline.

 

[freshmaker]

I think there's a panel or two in issue #1 of I Am Iron Man with Sitwell and Fury that's not in the film.

 

[wyokid]

Is it just me or are the adaptations like reading a really crappy version of the movie? I can't help but wonder how it reads if you haven't seen the film.

 

[DIrishB]

Is it just me or are the adaptations like reading a really crappy version of the movie? I can't help but wonder how it reads if you haven't seen the film.

Pretty much. Trying to cram the events of the films into only two issues is a problem also. Not saying that four issues would make for a significantly better adaptation, but it would offer more opportunity to include more of those character moments that help people connect with the characters when watching the films.

I don't know, I never really saw the point of the adaptations.

 

[Captain Canuck]

Newest rumours about Spider-Man: he won't appear in Civil War, but he will appear in Avengers Infinity War, Part I

Potential Spoilers

 

[Ice]

DESPITE "AGENT CARTER" RATINGS SLIP, MORE MARVEL TV IN THE WORKS


"We have ambitions for Marvel in the future," Lee added. "We love Marvel."

Perhaps most interestingly, that hint at his commitment to Marvel TV opens the door for a continued ambitious slate in the future. Whether that means a continuation of "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." and "Agent Carter" or a new project entirely is yet to be seen.

 

[Ice]

Captain America: Civil War Might Explore History Between Peggy Carter And Tony Stark

 

[Ice]

Netflix Releases Info On Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, & Defenders

A.K.A. Jessica Jones begins filming in February, on track for its end-of-the-year release, despite there being a rumor it was being thought of getting pushed into 2016.

 

[DIrishB]

Netflix Releases Info On Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, & Defenders A.K.A. Jessica Jones begins filming in February, on track for its end-of-the-year release, despite there being a rumor it was being thought of getting pushed into 2016.

I knew AKA Jessica Jones would air this year, for several reasons.

One, it was originally said Daredevil and JJ would likely air in 2015, Iron Fist and Luke Cage in 2016, and the Defenders in 2017. Given that there were no reported production delays, I never thought the rumor of AKA JJ in 2016 held much water.

Also, with Netflix's success with original programming (Orange is the New Black, House of Cards, etc), and all the money that's bringing in with new customers, it makes perfect sense to expand their original programming schedule, as they're obviously doing. But Daredevil and the other shows are something of a phenomenal addition to Netflix's existing lineup, and I will be incredibly surprised if Daredevil doesn't break records for them in terms of new subscriptions (given the huge fanbase of the MCU films--granted that doesn't automatically translate into those fans also watching the shows, but the buzz around Daredevil is huge compared to AoS or Agent Carter).

And finally, by releasing two shows per year, it allows them to reduce the interim between seasons. A long 3-4 year wait between Season 1 and Season 2 of each show will be pretty brutal, and will also be tough for the actors cast in the roles (since they need to leave their schedule open for an undetermined amount of time in an undetermined amount of years to return to the roles). I have a feeling that if Daredevil and Jessica Jones are both successful, we may see an accelerated production schedule for Iron Fist, Luke Cage, and The Defenders. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we see Daredevil Season 2 by the end of 2017 (instead of 2018 or 2019).

It all depends on the reception and ratings the shows get.

 

[wyokid]

I just realized what Captain America: Civil War might be going after financially. Marvel Studios has been trying to make Robert Downey Jr. and Iron Man not be their #1 for a while now and I just remembered how huge the Anti-Iron Man push was after Civil War (both in comics and in real life). This is going to be really interesting. Especially if it follows how Iron Man was in EVERY SINGLE COMIC EVER.

 

[DIrishB]

Episode 5 of Agent Carter will see the return of Dum Dum Dugan, as well as a number of characters from Marvel's Howling Commandoes related books:

General "Happy" Sam Sawyer
Junior Juniper
Pinky Pinkerton

Very cool.

 

[Captain Canuck]

Episode 5 of Agent Carter will see the return of Dum Dum Dugan, as well as a number of characters from Marvel's Howling Commandoes related books:

General "Happy" Sam Sawyer
Junior Juniper
Pinky Pinkerton

Very cool.

Those are the greatest names ever.

 

[DIrishB]

Daniel Brül will apparently be playing Baron Zemo in CA-Civil War, according to moviecastingcall.org...

 

[wyokid]

David Tennant Cast As Purple Man

That is insanely good casting and I for one cannot wait to hate The Doctor.

 

[Ice]

I.

LOVE.

IT.

Amazing.

 

[Captain Canuck]

I'm sort of afraid for the Jessica Jones show. All of the movies so far have been pretty PG/PG-13. Jessica Jones is going to be a lot darker and I'm not sure if I'll like it at all.

 

[wyokid]

I'm sort of afraid for the Jessica Jones show. All of the movies so far have been pretty PG/PG-13. Jessica Jones is going to be a lot darker and I'm not sure if I'll like it at all.

Oh man, I'm in the opposite tent. I want Alias, BMB/Brubaker/Miller/Waid Daredevil, I want Fraction/Brubaker Iron Fist, and I want Alias Luke Cage (not Luke Cage MAX though). I'm sure there'll still be plenty of heart and humor. Just it will go more serious at times.

 

[Captain Canuck]

Oh man, I'm in the opposite tent. I want Alias, BMB/Brubaker/Miller/Waid Daredevil, I want Fraction/Brubaker Iron Fist, and I want Alias Luke Cage (not Luke Cage MAX though). I'm sure there'll still be plenty of heart and humor. Just it will go more serious at times.

I'm okay with most of that, it's just the flashbacks to Purpleman messing with the women in Alias were hard enough to see in drawing. I don't know about a TV show.