Batman/Superman Anthology Timelines

[Pro Bot]

This is just for fun, but if you take those cameos as anything more, look at this silliness, XD. Let's ignore the Joys! 1976 film that connects with Barney Miller, it's probably not meant to be taken seriously. I mean, I don't think the cameos in Superman '78 are supposed to be taken seriously, it's literally just a one panel gag, but regardless, this is just some BS I cooked up.

2019 - Supergirl 5x09, " Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 1" [Pre-Crisis Earth-89]
2019 - Crisis on Infinite Earths: Paragons Rising, "Infinite Luthors" [Pre-Crisis Earth-96]
2019 - Batwoman 1x09, "Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 2" [Pre-Crisis Earth-96]
2019 - The Flash 6x09, "Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 3" [Pre-Crisis Earth-96]
1948 - Superman Returns: Prequel #1
1975 - Barney Miller 1x01-1x13
1975 - Barney Miller 2x01-2x22
1976 - Barney Miller 3x01-3x22
1977 - Fish 1x01-1x13
1977 - Barney Miller 4x01-4x23
1978 - Fish 2x01-2x22
1978 - Superman: The Movie: Extended Cut
1978 - Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut
1978 - Superman II
1978 - Barney Miller 5x01-5x24
1979 - Superman '78 #1-6
1979 - Superman '78: The Metal Curtain #1-6
1979 - Barney Miller 6x01-6x22
1980 - Superman III
1980 - Barney Miller 7x01-7x22
1981 - Barney Miller 8x01-8x22
1984 - Supergirl: Director's Cut
1985 - The Goonies
1985 - Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
1989 - Batman
1990 - Batman: Resurrection
1992 - Batman Returns
1992 - Catwoman 80th Anniversary, "Now You See Me"
1993 - Batman '89 #1-6
1995 - Batman '89: Echoes #1-6
1996 - Batman vol. 3 #135
1996 - Dark Crisis: Big Bang
2001 - Superman Returns: Strange Visitor
2006 - Superman Returns: Prequel #2-4
2006 - Superman Returns
2009 - Catwoman
2010 - Human Target 1x01-1x12
2010 - Human Target vol. 3 #1-6
2011 - Human Target 2x01-2x13
2020 - DC's Legends of Tomorrow 5x00, "Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 5"
2022 - The Flash

 

[selfishmisery]

This is just for fun, but if you take those cameos as anything more, look at this silliness, XD. Let's ignore the Joys! 1976 film that connects with Barney Miller, it's probably not meant to be taken seriously. I mean, I don't think the cameos in Superman '78 are supposed to be taken seriously, it's literally just a one panel gag, but regardless, this is just some BS I cooked up.

2019 - Supergirl 5x09, " Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 1" [Pre-Crisis Earth-89]
2019 - Crisis on Infinite Earths: Paragons Rising, "Infinite Luthors" [Pre-Crisis Earth-96]
2019 - Batwoman 1x09, "Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 2" [Pre-Crisis Earth-96]
2019 - The Flash 6x09, "Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 3" [Pre-Crisis Earth-96]
1948 - Superman Returns: Prequel #1
1975 - Barney Miller 1x01-1x13
1975 - Barney Miller 2x01-2x22
1976 - Barney Miller 3x01-3x22
1977 - Fish 1x01-1x13
1977 - Barney Miller 4x01-4x23
1978 - Fish 2x01-2x22
1978 - Superman: The Movie: Extended Cut
1978 - Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut
1978 - Superman II
1978 - Barney Miller 5x01-5x24
1979 - Superman '78 #1-6
1979 - Superman '78: The Metal Curtain #1-6
1979 - Barney Miller 6x01-6x22
1980 - Superman III
1980 - Barney Miller 7x01-7x22
1981 - Barney Miller 8x01-8x22
1984 - Supergirl: Director's Cut
1985 - The Goonies
1985 - Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
1989 - Batman
1990 - Batman: Resurrection
1992 - Batman Returns
1992 - Catwoman 80th Anniversary, "Now You See Me"
1993 - Batman '89 #1-6
1995 - Batman '89: Echoes #1-6
1996 - Batman vol. 3 #135
1996 - Dark Crisis: Big Bang
2001 - Superman Returns: Strange Visitor
2006 - Superman Returns: Prequel #2-4
2006 - Superman Returns
2009 - Catwoman
2010 - Human Target 1x01-1x12
2010 - Human Target vol. 3 #1-6
2011 - Human Target 2x01-2x13
2020 - DC's Legends of Tomorrow 5x00, "Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 5"
2022 - The Flash

Yeah don't put non-DC stuff in this like the Transformers Movie timeline had Friday the 13th and other random stuff in it. Please.

 

[Pro Bot]

Yeah don't put non-DC stuff in this like the Transformers Movie timeline had Friday the 13th and other random stuff in it. Please.

If I won't include The Man From U.N.C.L.E. or The Avengers on the Earth-66 after a 12 issue crossover storyline (a much STRONGER connection), I'm not gonna add some random 70s sitcom because of a single panel. No way, lol. By that logic, I'd have to include the Scooby-Doo franchise as well. I don't think we're supposed to take it seriously.

If I took every crossover comic as canon, then we end up with Transformers G1 being canon to Wonder Woman (1975).

 

[selfishmisery]

If I won't include The Man From U.N.C.L.E. or The Avengers on the Earth-66 after a 12 issue crossover storyline (a much STRONGER connection), I'm not gonna add some random 70s sitcom because of a single panel. No way, lol. By that logic, I'd have to include the Scooby-Doo franchise as well. I don't think we're supposed to take it seriously.

If I took every crossover comic as canon, then we end up with Transformers G1 being canon to Wonder Woman (1975).

"Oh that guy that looks like Shaggy is actually Baggy. He's a meth addict Florida Man with a Leopard he stole from the zoo and no friends."

Ruh roh.

 

[Jozaca]

If I took every crossover comic as canon, then we end up with Transformers G1 being canon to Wonder Woman (1975).

Really? What is the crossover chain that leads from Wonder Woman 1975 to Transformers G1?

 

[Pro Bot]

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Wonder_Woman_'77_Meets_the_Bionic_Woman_Vol_1https://gijoe.fandom.com/wiki/G.I._Joe_vs._The_Six_Million_Dollar_Man
Sidenote: With how American politics is going, I really wish we had a real life Superman.

 

[Jozaca]

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Wonder_Woman_'77_Meets_the_Bionic_Woman_Vol_1https://gijoe.fandom.com/wiki/G.I._Joe_vs._The_Six_Million_Dollar_Man
Sidenote: With how American politics is going, I really wish we had a real life Superman.

I don't have too many problems with the current state of American politics.

 

[Pro Bot]

I don't have too many problems with the current state of American politics.

I'd rather not get into the specifics, but I'm happy for you...

 

[iceman109]

@Pro Bot I think your theory on Metropolis replacing NYC holds water because in the Artbook for Superman Returns the concept art for Metropolis has a similar layout to Lower Manhattan

 

[iceman109]

Although they didn't want it to replace New York so it's probably a NYC/Liberty City coexistence thing going on

 

[selfishmisery]

@Pro Bot I think your theory on Metropolis replacing NYC holds water because in the Artbook for Superman Returns the concept art for Metropolis has a similar layout to Lower Manhattan


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What's weird is the Metropolis in Superman & Lois, based partially on Earth-Prime but...somehow an alternate version (we'll see how the series ends), is in Kansas. But surrounded by a massive body of water.

I dunno any lakes in Kansas that go far beyond the eye can see.

 

[iceman109]

What's weird is the Metropolis in Superman & Lois, based partially on Earth-Prime but...somehow an alternate version (we'll see how the series ends), is in Kansas. But surrounded by a massive body of water.

I dunno any lakes in Kansas that go far beyond the eye can see.

There's probably alternate geography going on their

 

[selfishmisery]

There's probably alternate geography going on their

the Oklahoma "gun barrel" is gone I guess lol.

 

[iceman109]

the Oklahoma "gun barrel" is gone I guess lol.
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It would probably depend on where Metropolis is in Kansas

 

[iceman109]

In Smallville it was a riverside city so in the Superman and Lois universe that river is probably a lake

 

[selfishmisery]

In Smallville it was a riverside city so in the Superman and Lois universe that river is probably a lake

That's my guess as well.

 

[iceman109]

Where would Earth 789s Gotham go?

 

[selfishmisery]

Where would Earth 789s Gotham go?

New Jersey is my guess.

 

[iceman109]

I'm guessing on Earth 789 Northern New Jersey is part of New York while South New Jersey is part of a state called Gotham (because of the flag in an office scene)

 

[iceman109]

Would Earth 97s Gotham City be in the same place also or would that be somewhere else you think?

 

[iceman109]

Where do you think the Earth 66s version of Gotham would go also?

 

[Pro Bot]

Bruh.
(Not canon I'd say but it's funny seeing classic Jimmy again)

 

[Jozaca]

I wish they officially separate Earth-96 and Earth-789 at some point, because, I don't know, it is starting to get very confusing to have an Earth undergo so many crisis and changes of face and be called a different number each time.

 

[selfishmisery]

I wish they officially separate Earth-96 and Earth-789 at some point, because, I don't know, it is starting to get very confusing to have an Earth undergo so many crisis and changes of face and be called a different number each time.

Plus different designations depending on if this live-action multiverse Earth peaks out into the comic multiverse somehow

 

[Pro Bot]

I wish they officially separate Earth-96 and Earth-789 at some point, because, I don't know, it is starting to get very confusing to have an Earth undergo so many crisis and changes of face and be called a different number each time.

Earth-9602, Earth-496 and Earth 1996 all refer to the exact same reality but in different multiverses. The thinking is that Earth-96 is supposed to be the reality of the Superman film series, including III-IV, and Earth-789 includes III-IV. One could easily argue that no universe merging happened and that Earth-89 includes Superman I-IV, and Earth-96 doesn't include I-IV despite the intention that it was supposed to I guess.

I don't agree with the idea that there's lots of Crisis changes though. Pre-Crisis Earth-89 and Earth-96 can be alt. versions because they get destroyed, and post-crisis is the real Donnerverse. There doesn't have to be any other changes here.

 

[Jozaca]

Earth-9602, Earth-496 and Earth 1996 all refer to the exact same reality but in different multiverses. The thinking is that Earth-96 is supposed to be the reality of the Superman film series, including III-IV, and Earth-789 includes III-IV. One could easily argue that no universe merging happened and that Earth-89 includes Superman I-IV, and Earth-96 doesn't include I-IV despite the intention that it was supposed to I guess.

I don't agree with the idea that there's lots of Crisis changes though. Pre-Crisis Earth-89 and Earth-96 can be alt. versions because they get destroyed, and post-crisis is the real Donnerverse. There doesn't have to be any other changes here.

But... he goes from having Christopher Reeve's face to Brandon Routh's and then to Reeve's again in The Flash (the movie). I know it is not so confusing:

Pre-Crisis:
-Earth-89 - Batman I-II + Catwoman
-Earth-96 - Superman I-IV + Returns + Supergirl + Joker in Daily Planet (Was it ever called officially Earth-78 or did fans deduce it from Earth-66, Earth-89 and Earth-97 designations?)

Post-Crisis:
-Earth-96/789 - Batman I-II + Catwoman + Superman I-IV + Supergirl + Returns + Joker doesn't massacre the Daily Planet

Flashpoint (DCEU, not Arrowverse)
-Earth-1-Flashpoint - Batman I-II (?) + The Flash
-Earth-96(?) - Superman I-IV + Supergirl

Post-Flashpoint
-Earth-96/789 - Back as Post-Crisis?

But the fact that characters changing actors is a plot point in The Flash makes me start wondering if there is more in there, even if it wasn't the intention.

Hum... It is the fact that the Joker of Earth-96 merges with his Earth-89 counterpart, that is dead by time of the Daily Planet massacre, the thing that prevents it from happening?

 

[Pro Bot]

Earth-78 was never an official designation. The official statement was always that Reeve is Earth-96, and that that includes all four films. It's... a little weird though, I get that.

 

[Pro Bot]

Oh no, guys. Guess it must be canon now, lol. Not really...
This is rather funny in hindsight though.

 

[Pro Bot]

One could easily argue that no universe merging happened and that Earth-89 includes Superman I-IV, and Earth-96 doesn't include I-IV despite the intention that it was supposed to I guess.

I suppose it's also possible that "Earth-97" is actually Earth-89 (as shown in Crisis Aftermath), so Earth-89 includes Batman I-IV/Catwoman, while Earth-96 includes the alternate comic book continuation of Batman Returns. In other words, Batman and Batman Returns are canon to Earth-89 (Burtonverse) and Earth-96 (Donnerverse). There's many different interpretations of this so there's not really a wrong way to look at it, I guess...

 

[Pro Bot]

Hope you guys appreciate me finding obscure OnStar Batman tie-ins. I notice that in Batman: OnStar #2 (the comic book, not the advert or the webisode), Mr. Freeze's gang members have hockey masks and sticks, just like Batman & Robin.


https://www.hamman.org/batman.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20010331042541/http://www.onstar.com:80/visitors/html/bs_batman.htm