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Oh also forgot to mention. You can include the Classic versions of all the Game and Watch games as well. Sean's timeline doesn't include them for some reason but the Game and Watch Gallery games have like a hub world where you can access all the G&W games and Mario is there with Mr Game and Watch, so I think Game and Watch in general shares the same universe as Mario. Mr Game and Watch cameos in Donkey Kong Country Returns as well in one of the construction levels. I think the Game and Watch Gallery games go after Partners in Time because young DK Jr is present
Mr Game & Watch is only in Smash and the G&W gallery games, so this wouldn’t warrant an inclusion.

Also, just want to note that Game & Watch games look like how they do because they use LCD screens, however Mr Game & Watch just looks like that so someone appearing in a G&W game that bears some resemblance to Mr Game & Watch wouldn’t mean it’s necessarily Mr G&W
 
Mr Game & Watch is only in Smash and the G&W gallery games, so this wouldn’t warrant an inclusion.

Also, just want to note that Game & Watch games look like how they do because they use LCD screens, however Mr Game & Watch just looks like that so someone appearing in a G&W game that bears some resemblance to Mr Game & Watch wouldn’t mean it’s necessarily Mr G&W
Well in G&W Gallery he looks like that next to regular Mario1000000373.jpg
 
Well in G&W Gallery he looks like that next to regular MarioView attachment 4491
He even acts out the game and watch games in the end credits, like he morphs into the chef and stuff from the classic g&w versions. I know he was made up for smash but I think it's possible they retconned him into Game and Watch canon later on
 
The time frames just don't match up imo it has to be parallel universes with time dilation or else it all falls apart. Also games like Mario is Missing and Mario's Time Machine probably aren't canon because they weren't published by Nintendo, only licensed, they're not really on the same tier as the actually published games, they're never referenced in other material
Licensed can still count.
 
Licensed can still count.
I suppose, just imo they don't really gel with the rest of the series. I still don't think Earth exists in the Mario universe as Mario's world is basically an "earth" more or less. The Earth seen in games like Mario Kart Tour should just be a parallel Earth or Earth-2 situation they travel to. I already gave my reasoning earlier with the floating Peach's castle thing
 
they don't really gel with the rest of the series
There are more sticky-outy games that are undeniably canon. I feel the Tennis games where you play as random humans and there’s nothing Mario-related apart from the very end are less Mario-y, to name a few
 
I already gave my reasoning earlier with the floating Peach's castle thing
Again, I feel portals being the major evidence for alternate universes seems unreasonable. It is very clear that the earlier Mario games intended the Mushroom Kingdom, Sarasaland, etc to be other locations on Earth, since a lot of arcade games were implied to be in New York. Obviously, this was retconned to New Donk, though things like Mario and Luigi living in Brooklyn for some of their life, and there being games set on actual Earth, it seems Nintendo is implying two separate worlds in one universe, connected by a portal. At the very least, the Mushroom World is not meant to be its own version of Earth - that’d be like saying Legend of Zelda takes place on an alternate Earth because there are humans
 
Again, I feel portals being the major evidence for alternate universes seems unreasonable. It is very clear that the earlier Mario games intended the Mushroom Kingdom, Sarasaland, etc to be other locations on Earth, since a lot of arcade games were implied to be in New York. Obviously, this was retconned to New Donk, though things like Mario and Luigi living in Brooklyn for some of their life, and there being games set on actual Earth, it seems Nintendo is implying two separate worlds in one universe, connected by a portal. At the very least, the Mushroom World is not meant to be its own version of Earth - that’d be like saying Legend of Zelda takes place on an alternate Earth because there are humans
There actually is evidence Zelda takes place on an alternate earth. You can see IRL Constellations in the sky and they're in the exact location they'd be if you viewed them from Earth. Also Aounuma and Miyamoto said in an interview once that the Zelda planet is called Earth
 
Well in G&W Gallery he looks like that next to regular Mario
Yes, this was what I was saying. The other Game & Watch games don’t imply characters look like LCD, and including every G&W game because Mr Game & Watch can become different G&W characters would be unintuitive, especially since other G&W games are already on the timeline. You can’t just pick and choose which games are actual Mario canon, and which are Mr Game & Watch transforming into different things
 
Yes, this was what I was saying. The other Game & Watch games don’t imply characters look like LCD, and including every G&W game because Mr Game & Watch can become different G&W characters would be unintuitive, especially since other G&W games are already on the timeline. You can’t just pick and choose which games are actual Mario canon, and which are Mr Game & Watch transforming into different things
The modern versions are with Mario, the classic versions are with Mr G&W, simple. You literally can select both styles in the gallery games.
 
Again, the G&W art style is due to technological limitations, Mr G&W is based off that. I’m not adding G&W games because Mr G&W exists, since he doesn’t appear in any of them and his ability to morph does not imply he is everything in every G&W game
 
Sticker Star should go after Paper Jam technically. Since Paper Jam gives origins for stuff like Bowser's flying castle and a specific Goomba attack that shows up later in Sticker Star
 
Also is there a reason tennis and golf are put between Mario Bros and Super Mario Bros? Mario Maker implies those games happened back to back so most likely no games should go in-between I think
 
Sticker Star should go after Paper Jam technically. Since Paper Jam gives origins for stuff like Bowser's flying castle and a specific Goomba attack that shows up later in Sticker Star
Is it not after? I’ll change that when I have the time
 
Btw another thing I forgot, Mario Run should probably be moved to after Princess Peach Showtime. The game later had updates that added statues of Peach from that game (as well as Wonder Flowers from Mario Wonder), I'm not sure if there's other stuff from later games shown like brothership or not, haven't checked for those but I'm sure on the previous 2
 
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Btw another thing I forgot, Mario Run should probably be moved to after Princess Peach Showtime. The game later had updates that added statues of Peach from that game (as well as Wonder Flowers from Mario Wonder), I'm not sure if there's other stuff from later games shown like brothership or not, haven't checked for those but I'm sure on the previous 2
That Game keeps getting statues that reference upcoming games, it’s kinda a Mario Tour situation. I’m not putting Run at the very end every time a new game releases
 
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That Game keeps getting statues that reference upcoming games, it’s kinda a Mario Tour situation. I’m not putting Run at the very end every time a new game releases
Mario Kart Tour hasn't received new characters or courses in almost 3 years now. I think you should keep moving it if they add content from later games as it wouldn't make sense in canon otherwise. Mario Run will presumably stop getting updates eventually as most phone games stop getting updated eventually
 
Okay uh they actually have DK Bananza statues so it actually is the end of the timeline currently
 
What I currently have is a simplified timeline. This is the simplest way to consume all content chronologically. The bulk of Mario Run takes place where I have it, so I won’t move it away from its intended placement simply because of some statues that get added every time there’s a new game.

What I plan on doing is a detailed timeline. This is the most detailed way to consume all content chronologically, moving flashbacks, flashforwards, scenes, levels, etc to their respective placements. I will use this to show the Mario Run statues’ more accurate placements (shortly after each game they’re based off) but will keep the bulk of the game at its intended placement
 
What I currently have is a simplified timeline. This is the simplest way to consume all content chronologically. The bulk of Mario Run takes place where I have it, so I won’t move it away from its intended placement simply because of some statues that get added every time there’s a new game.

What I plan on doing is a detailed timeline. This is the most detailed way to consume all content chronologically, moving flashbacks, flashforwards, scenes, levels, etc to their respective placements. I will use this to show the Mario Run statues’ more accurate placements (shortly after each game they’re based off) but will keep the bulk of the game at its intended placement
That's fair. Maybe the Toad Rallies kept going after the main events of Run and stuff since that has newer game references too
 

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