Zombipanda
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Re: Dark Avengers series discussion
DC had Black Adam ripping dudes in half left and right.
DC had Black Adam ripping dudes in half left and right.
Avengers Dark Avengers series discussion (Spoilers)
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thee great one
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Because Black Adam is awesome.
Black Adam and The Sentry are so completely different characters.
Because Black Adam is awesome.
Black Adam and The Sentry are so completely different characters.
Jaggyd
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A.) Black Adam is at best an anti-hero, like the Punisher. At worst, he's a megalomaniacal villain like Doom.
B.) Why hasn't he ripped off Norman Osborn's head? He goes out of his way to neutralize male villains, but he tries to dismember Ultron (who was wearing a female body), rips off Morgan's head.
If you look at the history of comics, women get the short end of the stick. If they didn't, Gail Simone wouldn't have help create Women in Refrigerators.
A.) Black Adam is at best an anti-hero, like the Punisher. At worst, he's a megalomaniacal villain like Doom.
B.) Why hasn't he ripped off Norman Osborn's head? He goes out of his way to neutralize male villains, but he tries to dismember Ultron (who was wearing a female body), rips off Morgan's head.
If you look at the history of comics, women get the short end of the stick. If they didn't, Gail Simone wouldn't have help create Women in Refrigerators.
Hellsbuttmonkey
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Re: Dark Avengers series discussion
Maybe he has mother issues?
Maybe he has mother issues?
mike3717
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Pointless and annoying. I would eagerly applaud his grisly demise. Worst character ever. Rulk is better.
Pointless and annoying. I would eagerly applaud his grisly demise. Worst character ever. Rulk is better.
Ice
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I mean, I know Sentry has been poorly done since Bendis brought him back, but "Rulk" better?!
*Shuns*
I will now have to shun you for that.
I mean, I know Sentry has been poorly done since Bendis brought him back, but "Rulk" better?!
*Shuns*
Re: Dark Avengers series discussion
I think it's a little unfair to assume her gender plays any kind of role in the decision to rip her head off.
I think it's a little unfair to assume her gender plays any kind of role in the decision to rip her head off.
mike3717
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Ok...I may have gone too far with the whole "Rulk is better" thing. (cuz Rulk really is beyond horrible)
It is difficult for me to express just how much I hate Sentry and Rulk was the worst character I could come up with. But yes, in retrospect that was probably a little extreme.
Ok...I may have gone too far with the whole "Rulk is better" thing. (cuz Rulk really is beyond horrible)
It is difficult for me to express just how much I hate Sentry and Rulk was the worst character I could come up with. But yes, in retrospect that was probably a little extreme.
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Jaggyd
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Shall I point you to Women in Refrigerators?
I'm having difficulty in believing she was so great of a threat that she had to be decapitated. Just kind of reeks of misogyny, but hey, why should I complain, girls should stick to manga and not be offended by macho stuff.
Shall I point you to Women in Refrigerators?
I'm having difficulty in believing she was so great of a threat that she had to be decapitated. Just kind of reeks of misogyny, but hey, why should I complain, girls should stick to manga and not be offended by macho stuff.
Victor Von Doom
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Ok....
On one hand I'm tired of Sentry constantly being wasted. Here you have a Superman with actual problems ripe for storytelling. But instead all we do is have him rip people in half. Just another character wasted.
But on the other hand, as silly and contrived as Bendis' stories are...I can't help but be entertained. The entire time.
Ugh.
Ok....
On one hand I'm tired of Sentry constantly being wasted. Here you have a Superman with actual problems ripe for storytelling. But instead all we do is have him rip people in half. Just another character wasted.
But on the other hand, as silly and contrived as Bendis' stories are...I can't help but be entertained. The entire time.
Ugh.
Jaggyd
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y'know... something just dawned on me, and I need to apologize to E for being a *****.
Doom's comment made me realize something, I don't think this is a bout of misogyny, I think this is Bendis thinking he's being oh so cutting edge, and having Sentry be his Miracleman. All the brutality, and "brushes with darkness" just reeks of "me too".
So, I'm sorry, E, I didn't mean to get all *****y and preachy on you. Just tired of seeing female heroes (and in this case villain) being brutalized, while male characters generally get the free pass and get the resurrection/reintroductions.
y'know... something just dawned on me, and I need to apologize to E for being a *****.
Doom's comment made me realize something, I don't think this is a bout of misogyny, I think this is Bendis thinking he's being oh so cutting edge, and having Sentry be his Miracleman. All the brutality, and "brushes with darkness" just reeks of "me too".
So, I'm sorry, E, I didn't mean to get all *****y and preachy on you. Just tired of seeing female heroes (and in this case villain) being brutalized, while male characters generally get the free pass and get the resurrection/reintroductions.
Victor Von Doom
Fist of teh Internets.
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Doom: Fair and Blanced (....But Not All Douchish and Self-Righteous Like The Other People Who Use This Motto.
Doom: Fair and Blanced (....But Not All Douchish and Self-Righteous Like The Other People Who Use This Motto.
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It's no problem - I was going to bring up the fact that Sentry ripping people in half is not unprecedented, but Doom took care of that. And I guess I could see where you were coming from, I just thought maybe you were reading something into it that I didn't think was there.
But yeah, that's probably not inaccurate to say Sentry is Bendis's Miracleman. The Carnage ripping-in-half thing should've tipped us off that it might happen. The original Sentry (Jenkins) would not have done that.
It's no problem - I was going to bring up the fact that Sentry ripping people in half is not unprecedented, but Doom took care of that. And I guess I could see where you were coming from, I just thought maybe you were reading something into it that I didn't think was there.
But yeah, that's probably not inaccurate to say Sentry is Bendis's Miracleman. The Carnage ripping-in-half thing should've tipped us off that it might happen. The original Sentry (Jenkins) would not have done that.
McCheese
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I'm not offended by the possible misogyny. I'm not offended by the waste of a good character. I'm offended by the silliness of having an Avenger, a HERO, rip off someone's head just because Bendis put the word Dark in the title.
If it walks like a Thunderbolt, quacks like a Thunderbolt, looks like a Thunderbolt, it must be a Dark Avenger.
LAME.
I'm not offended by the possible misogyny. I'm not offended by the waste of a good character. I'm offended by the silliness of having an Avenger, a HERO, rip off someone's head just because Bendis put the word Dark in the title.
If it walks like a Thunderbolt, quacks like a Thunderbolt, looks like a Thunderbolt, it must be a Dark Avenger.
LAME.
Ultimate Houde
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Wait, Bendis is a duck?
Wait, Bendis is a duck?
Ice
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Captain Canuck
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Re: Dark Avengers series discussion
i haven't picked up Dark Avengers. THe last time I saw Sentry was during Secret Invasion. He flew off into space and the Void came down and saved Lindy. Is it possible that Sentry isn't ripping off Morgan's head, but the Void is?
i haven't picked up Dark Avengers. THe last time I saw Sentry was during Secret Invasion. He flew off into space and the Void came down and saved Lindy. Is it possible that Sentry isn't ripping off Morgan's head, but the Void is?
Zombipanda
My Boom-Boom's mostly gay
Re: Dark Avengers series discussion
It walks like a Thunderbolt with a limp, quacks like a Thunderbolt with a tracheotomy and looks like a Thunderbolt with massive burn scars covering over 95% of its body that it will never recover from and will cry ever night for the rest of its life over.
Oh yeah. And Sentry is the Noid. Avoid him. I swear to God. He'll rip your head off. Especially if you have breasts.
But anyway. I think we're all blowing this out of proportion. Obviously the Sentry's ripping Morgana's head off her shoulders with his bare hand because that's the only way to destroy her majiks.
Or, you know, because he's got to compensate and try to be badder than Ellis.
It walks like a Thunderbolt with a limp, quacks like a Thunderbolt with a tracheotomy and looks like a Thunderbolt with massive burn scars covering over 95% of its body that it will never recover from and will cry ever night for the rest of its life over.
Oh yeah. And Sentry is the Noid. Avoid him. I swear to God. He'll rip your head off. Especially if you have breasts.
But anyway. I think we're all blowing this out of proportion. Obviously the Sentry's ripping Morgana's head off her shoulders with his bare hand because that's the only way to destroy her majiks.
Or, you know, because he's got to compensate and try to be badder than Ellis.
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thee great one
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Re: Dark Avengers series discussion
I must say I actually enjoyed the first Avengers battle against a villain.
I must say I actually enjoyed the first Avengers battle against a villain.
Void.M
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But aren't they villains too?
I mean really it's villains fighting villains.
Well...Villains fighting Doom's crazy ex.
But aren't they villains too?
I mean really it's villains fighting villains.
Well...Villains fighting Doom's crazy ex.
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Gemini
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Re: Dark Avengers series discussion
Cool preview of #3
http://comics.ign.com/articles/961/961204p1.html
Thats a great scene between Bob and Norman that is.
Cool preview of #3
http://comics.ign.com/articles/961/961204p1.html
Thats a great scene between Bob and Norman that is.
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Wow - Deodato's art looks better than ever. Not to sure about the story, but the art is great.
Wow - Deodato's art looks better than ever. Not to sure about the story, but the art is great.
ProjectX2
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The only Avengers comic I read is New Avengers and that's because I like the characters and it's got good art and Bendis sometimes comes up with interesting stories. I tried Mighty Avengers because it's Slott but I wasn't really interested with the first issue and for some reason Hank Pym is calling himself The Wasp so I didn't bother after that. Should I be reading Dark Avengers? Is it any good?
The only Avengers comic I read is New Avengers and that's because I like the characters and it's got good art and Bendis sometimes comes up with interesting stories. I tried Mighty Avengers because it's Slott but I wasn't really interested with the first issue and for some reason Hank Pym is calling himself The Wasp so I didn't bother after that. Should I be reading Dark Avengers? Is it any good?
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I like it. It's similar to New Avengers for the exact reasons you mentioned - the characters are pretty good, the concept is interesting, and the art is very good. At least read the first issue; it should give you a pretty good idea if you want to continue with it. It's not Alan Moore but it is entertaining.
I like it. It's similar to New Avengers for the exact reasons you mentioned - the characters are pretty good, the concept is interesting, and the art is very good. At least read the first issue; it should give you a pretty good idea if you want to continue with it. It's not Alan Moore but it is entertaining.
Ice
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I read the first issue. Was bored with it. I won't go further with this.
I read the first issue. Was bored with it. I won't go further with this.
Ice
Teh Sexy Monkey Queen
Asteroid M! It's freaking Asteroid M!! :shock:
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Iceshadow
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Re: Uncanny X-Men series discussion (Spoilers!)
I loved Emma and Namor totally wailing on Daken and Mimic.
I loved Emma and Namor totally wailing on Daken and Mimic.
