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I will separate them after 1.) you admit Lois & Clark isn't connected to the Burtonverse and 2.) You separate those.
It's only fair.
Well, if The Batman's batmobile appeared in Teen Titans alongside the main theme from that series, I would agree that The Batman and Teen Titans are connected. It does not, though. They don't even share voice actors and the costumes are completely different.

Honestly, I don't see how it's any different to Human Target being connected to Superman (1978) in your eyes, and you advocated for that. Lois & Clark has the same Batmobile (alongside the Danny Elfman theme) and references Gotham and Batman serveral times concurrent to the then-ongoing Batman film series. That's a bit different than a single comic using the most basic Batman design and using it as absolute proof of a shared universe. Heck, using that logic, the same comic tie-ins used far more explicit designs of the DCAU's Justice League.

Again, I'm not telling you what to do. I included Batman: Caped Crusader on an Earth-Prime/Earth-F timeline for God's sake. If the evidence is good enough for you, go ahead.
 
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Well, if The Batman's batmobile appeared in Teen Titans alongside the main theme from that series, I would agree that The Batman and Teen Titans are connected. It does not, though. They don't even share voice actors and the costumes are completely different.

Honestly, I don't see how it's any different to Human Target being connected to Superman (1978) in your eyes, and you advocated for that. Lois & Clark has the same Batmobile (alongside the Danny Elfman theme) and references Gotham and Batman serveral times concurrent to the then-ongoing Batman film series. That's a bit different than a single comic using the most basic Batman design and using it as absolute proof of a shared universe. Heck, using that logic, the same comic tie-ins used far more explicit designs of the DCAU's Justice League.

Again, I'm not telling you what to do. I included Batman: Caped Crusader on an Earth-Prime/Earth-F timeline for God's sake. If the evidence is good enough for you, go ahead.
I mean no offense, I have a jovial way of wording myself.
I've been confused for trolling at times, but you do you. I won't legit force ya to do anything.
 
He joins immediately when invited in the S4 finale ("You've put together quite a league. Let's get to work.") In S5, a year later, Superman comes to ask Bruce to "Tell me about this "justice team" of yours".
Yes I remember. In Legion, it's never actually stated that he's talking about Batman or the Justice League.
 
Here is why I think the animated Crisis on Infinite Earths does spell the end & rebirth of the animated multiverse and not some variant multiverse.



1.) In Crisis part 3, Razer has the Blue Lantern outfit that was teased in GL:TAS. No other half that is Red Lantern; thus making Young Justice a POST-Crisis Earth-16. (More on that in a sec.)

2.) Him finding Aya offscreen after her cameo in JL: Action implies it is a pre-Crisis Earth-16, with GL:TAS along with E16 "canon-adjacent" works like Catwoman: Hunted & the Green Arrow animated short. The only reason they pop up on Earth-18 is because all the Earths were in the same Bleed space pocket dimension in part 3.

3.) JL:Action likely got shifted out of Earth-16 to another Earth (Earth-15?) while the Green Lantern cartoon and other Earth-16 adjacent stories remained but were altered as we see them in YJ canon.

4.) If the multiverse was a "cancer", aka too big to maintain its existence, then we don't have anywhere near 2112 or 5501 Earths with miniscule Hypertime differences. The "My Adventures With Superman" cartoon suggested there are upwards between 52 to 508 Earths, not counting the unaffected Earth-Prime (the original Flashpoint only affected it from a barren wasteland to back to its thriving workd seen in the old Superman animated shorts.)

5.) All that said, the events of how Razer and Aya will reunite will be different than how it was pre-Crisis. The YJ set-up for that was the events perserved in the E16 timeline with alterations like Metron's involvement.
 
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Beware the Batman Timeline
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2013
January

Beware the Batman 1x01, "Hunted"
Beware the Batman 1x02, "Secrets"
Beware the Batman 1x03, "Tests"

February
Beware the Batman 1x04, "Safe"

March
Beware the Batman 1x05, "Broken"
Beware the Batman 1x06, "Toxic"
Beware the Batman 1x07, "Family"
Beware the Batman 1x08, "Allies"
Beware the Batman 1x09, "Control"
Beware the Batman 1x10, "Sacrifice"
Beware the Batman 1x11, "Instinct"
Beware the Batman 1x12, "Attraction"
Beware the Batman 1x13, "Fall"
Beware the Batman 1x14, "Darkness"
Beware the Batman 1x15, "Reckoning"

September
Beware the Batman
1x16, "Nexus"
Beware the Batman 1x17, "Monsters"
Beware the Batman 1x18, "Game"


October
Beware the Batman 1x19, "Animal"
Beware the Batman 1x20, "Doppleganger"
Beware the Batman 1x21, "Unique"
Beware the Batman 1x22, "Hero"
Beware the Batman 1x23, "Choices"
Beware the Batman 1x24, "Epitath"
Beware the Batman 1x25, "Twist"
Beware the Batman 1x26, "Alone"


November 3
Beware the Batman #1 ("Law & (Dis)order"; pg. 1-5)

November 4
Beware the Batman #1 ("Law & (Dis)order"; pg. 6-17)

November 5
Beware the Batman #1 ("Law & (Dis)order"; pg. 18-20)

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Beware the Batman #2 ("Rule of Three")
Beware the Batman #3 ("Tobias Awaits")
Beware the Batman #4
Beware the Batman #5 ("Suitable for Framing")
Beware the Batman #6 ("First Person Shooter")
I finally started watching this show. I found a Police Report dated 02/14/2011. I believe it's supposed to be an old report btw. It's in episode 5.

How did you figure out the months?

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Any of the uber kiddy ones like League of Superpets, Batman Unlimited, Aquaman: King of Atlantis, Krypto the Superdog, LEGO DC, Batwheels, Bat-Family, Justice League Action, Teen Titans GO (of freaking course) and both DC Superhero Girls universes will NOT be covered.
But....
It would be so awesome..........
It would be so cool........................
 
I finally started watching this show. I found a Police Report dated 02/14/2011. I believe it's supposed to be an old report btw. It's in episode 5.

How did you figure out the months?

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That date is reused on other documents/paper later in the show.

It's a placeholder. In terms of other dates, it's in regards to the passage of time and the "5th of November" in one of the tie-in comics to the show.
 
That date is reused on other documents/paper later in the show.

It's a placeholder. In terms of other dates, it's in regards to the passage of time and the "5th of November" in one of the tie-in comics to the show.
OK I found more timeline info. I know it's very hard to see in this image, but this report from episode 12 is dated July 20th/28th (hard to see), 2012. Batman's right "ear" is covering part of it. There are a couple more 2012 dates on the document as well. So I think this confirms episodes 1.01 - 1.15 are set in 2012. Then 1.16 - 1.26 would be in early 2013 to account for the six month time-jump.

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Edit: I forgot to mention this Blueprint dated "3/1/??" can be seen in episode 11.

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In the same episode The following exchange reveals that it's the month of June. "Bravo, Batman. You're not as senseless as your attire would make us believe. Yes. A cape in June? It's just not done."
 
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Ok so regarding The Batman being a prequel to Teen Titans, I think there is absolutely enough evidence that this can be the case without any contradiction. This theory has been picking up speed in recent years and I'm all for it. Aside from Robin being the most obvious evidence for this, I think many people overlook the connection between Rumor and Slade. Let's break it down.

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Mario is the anti-heroic antagonist of The Batman episode "Rumors". He was formerly Paul Karon's bodyguard, but after failing to protect him, he became the vigilante named "Rumor". Originally Hush was intended to be the villain, but DC did not like the idea, and created Rumor in his place. Unlike Batman he has no code of ethics as he told the villains that killing them is something Batman does not have the guts to do. He even tells Batman that he should have become more brutal as a vigilante.

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Now, if one looks at Mario/Rumor and compares himself to Slade from Teen Titans, there are A LOT of similarities that could make one believe they are supposed to be the same person. I like this idea so much and it works really well. Let's see what Rumor and Slade share in common. First of all, they are both muscular males that have brown eyes. In the Teen Titans episode "Forces Of Nature" we get a glimpse of Slade's brown eyes, which match Mario's.

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Earlier in the season we do see Slade in what appears to be blue eyes, but this is the only case I've noticed this. All subsequent appearances he has black/brown eyes. Maybe he was wearing a blue contact that day?

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We know Slade is Caucasian from the episode "Betrayal" where he took some damage to his suit, revealing his skin tone. This tone matches Mario's.

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Mario seems to have light brown/red hair. We never get a good shot of Slade's hair until "Apprentice, Part 2". Seeing that it's in shadow, a case could be made they both have brown hair.

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In the Teen Titans episode "Haunted" when Raven is in Robin's mind, there is a glimpse of Robin swearing an oath to Batman. This is Batman's only appearance in the series.

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A second flashback shows Robin's parents, John and Mary Grayson, falling to their deaths; due to a sabotaged trapeze wire during a circus performance, which The Batman portrayed in "A Matter Of Family".

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"Haunted" has the strongest evidence of Slade's true identity being that of "Mario" from "The Batman" episode "Rumors". The following exchange shows this.

Robin: "Why couldn't Starfire see you?"

Slade: "I believe you are familiar with cloaking technology?"

Robin: "I'm familiar with all your tricks."

During the episode "Rumors", Mario used cloaking technology when utilizing his Rumor identity to battle Batman and Robin. This is how Robin would be already familiar with cloaking technology, which we never saw utilized before "Haunted". This means Slade is referring to a previous time he encountered Robin before the series. The episode "Rumors" showcases this.

Also, considering in that episode, Rumor was able to singlehandedly capture nearly all of the major Gotham City villains - something Batman himself couldn't do - it's very likely that there's more to Mario than he let on. In fact, Mario may not even be his real name. Slade is the identity he chose sometime after the events of "Rumors" and he's been after Robin ever since. Robin doesn't even know the true identity of Slade, which further adds to the mystery surrounding the character.

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Both Slade and Rumor possess Enhanced Physical Capabilities, Genius-level Intellect, Vast resources (power suits, weapons, tech, etc.) and are both Master combatants. Both are experts with the Bo Staff as well. Their similarities don't end there, they are also both voiced by Ron Perlman, which just further cements the idea that these are supposed to be the same person.

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As for Killer Moth, let's break down why I think both of his appearances can be easily explained.

Drury Walker idolized the Penguin, and was inspired by him to become a supervillain. He arrived at Team Penguin's headquarters, and given membership solely as a "coffee boy". The team managed to steal vats of chemicals that they wanted to use to melt through the solid steel safes of Robert Howard. Killer Moth was in charge of the guarding the chemicals, which no one else was willing to risk their safety.

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After being exposed to the chemicals, Walker was transformed into a large insect-like mutant capable of flying and spitting acid.

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The next time we see Killer Moth is years later in the timeline during "Date With Destiny". By this time he's a humanoid looking creature that still seems to retain his sentience. It seems he has developed a special suit to contain his Charaxes appearance OR he has further mutated into something in-between human and Charaxes.

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Either way, I don't think there is anything contradicting his appearances in each series.
 
While I'm at it, let's also break down "X" and his relation to Jason Todd, who exists in this universe as seen when Beast Boy is theorizing the identity of "X". I understand this is just a theory and was never confirmed in-universe. But I do believe Jason Todd exists in "Teen Titans" and X is this universe's version of The Red Hood.

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Since Jason Todd is seen on Beast Boy's board, that means the character exists in this universe. The following theory could be an explanation for this: "Red X" is Jason Todd, who served as the second Robin after Dick Grayson moved to Jump City in "Go!" sometime after "The Batman" Season 5. Similar to the comics, The Joker would end up killing him and Bruce Wayne would later resurrect him. Possibly with his anti-Vampirism vaccine he developed when curing The Joker during his time as a Vampire in "The Batman VS. Dracula".

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The vampire-aspect makes sense when considering Red X never shows his skin and has weapons resembling blood, such as the projectile-X that turns into liquid. This also means Red X must have made them himself and it's a skill Batman likely taught him.

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The reason Jason Todd might have moved to Jump City and mimicked his predecessor's darker alter ego would be to regain his calling and meaning in life as a crime-fighter, which is why he ultimately decides to back out of "The Brotherhood Of Evil" in "Teen Titans'.

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My answer is I will not separate The Batman & Teen Titans if the opposition also holds certain "connections" in high regard that aren't really connections.

For the most part, we all are condensing things.
 
What's the evidence that these two are connected?
It's more than just a fan theory. First of all, both are DC animated productions that aired at the same time. It is my personal belief that The Batman, Legion Of Superheroes and Teen Titans all share a universe and were meant to the be successor to the original DCAU.

See my previous posts in here about Killer Moth and Slade.

The short version is that a very real connection can be made between Rumor and Slade. Both are voiced by Ron Perlman and both share many of the same physical appearances. In Season three of Teen Titans, one could argue that Slade references his first fight with Robin when he used cloaking technology as seen in The Batman episode "Rumors".

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Perhaps the strongest evidence comes from this comic. Batman's design is clearly the same as it was in The Batman. The shows also aired concurrently and are clearly separate from the original DCAU that was still airing at the time.

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Also in Teen Titans, Robin's Birdarang's are nearly the exact same he uses in The Batman.

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The Batman:

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At the end of the day, "canon" is a very loose term that can mean different things to different folks. Seeing that this is all entirely fiction, like James Gunn recently told IGN.

In other words, there is no problem with making this connection. I have done it and it works without issue.
 

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The short version is that a very real connection can be made between Rumor and Slade. Both are voiced by Ron Perlman and both share many of the same physical appearances. In Season three of Teen Titans, one could argue that Slade references his first fight with Robin when he used cloaking technology as seen in The Batman episode "Rumors".

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That's something the viewer might infer. Not much evidence.

Perhaps the strongest evidence comes from this comic. Batman's design is clearly the same as it was in The Batman. The shows also aired concurrently and are clearly separate from the original DCAU that was still airing at the time.

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It also looks the same as Young Justice and Beware the Batman. The Justice League design in those same comics resemble the DCAU Justice League.

Also in Teen Titans, Robin's Birdarang's are nearly the exact same he uses in The Batman.

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They look nothing alike, to be honest with you.

At the end of the day, "canon" is a very loose term that can mean different things to different folks. Seeing that this is all entirely fiction, like James Gunn recently told IGN.

In other words, there is no problem with making this connection. I have done it and it works without issue.
That's okay, nothing wrong to have a different personal interpretation. I like this theory, don't get me wrong. It's just not confirmed and the connections are fan theories.
 
That's something the viewer might infer. Not much evidence.


It also looks the same as Young Justice and Beware the Batman. The Justice League design in those same comics resemble the DCAU Justice League.


They look nothing alike, to be honest with you.


That's okay, nothing wrong to have a different personal interpretation. I like this theory, don't get me wrong. It's just not confirmed and the connections are fan theories.
It all depends on how you define "evidence".

I am aware that those comics vary in design. Perhaps the comic that features the League is set in the DCAU!

I think the birdarangs look nearly identical, minus some color variation. I guess that's in the eye of the beholder.
 
I don't have time to explain stuff in depth right now but I have several explanations in line with what Dallas is arguing.

You can agree or disagree, I don't really care. The archetypes are too similar for it to be ignored, and I just figured "Why not? It's not 100% objective but MOST DC fans are in favor of the idea so why not just have 'two-in-one'?"

As for the different ways of how Grayson's parents' died - wasn't the one in TT like a vision/memory thing that couldn't have been entirely accurate?
 
I don't have time to explain stuff in depth right now but I have several explanations in line with what Dallas is arguing.

You can agree or disagree, I don't really care. The archetypes are too similar for it to be ignored, and I just figured "Why not? It's not 100% objective but MOST DC fans are in favor of the idea so why not just have 'two-in-one'?"

As for the different ways of how Grayson's parents' died - wasn't the one in TT like a vision/memory thing that couldn't have been entirely accurate?
Raven is in Dick's head I believe and discovers memories he has of key events in his life.
 
Ok I need some help with Teen Titans Go To The Movies and Teen Titans Go! versus Teen Titans.

Are either of them canon to TTG or can we just chalk up TTG to be a parody without any real continuity?
 
Ok I need some help with Teen Titans Go To The Movies and Teen Titans Go! versus Teen Titans.

Are either of them canon to TTG or can we just chalk up TTG to be a parody without any real continuity?
In my opinion:
TTG = Fifth Dimension

That is a show with no logic, the Fifth Dimension is not bound by logic.
 
In my opinion:
TTG = Fifth Dimension
The reason I ask is in my viewing order I'm wondering if I should include any episodes of Teen Titans Go that are either directly or indirectly referenced in either of those films or just completely separate the movies from the show... It's been driving me mad since 2021.
 
The reason I ask is in my viewing order I'm wondering if I should include any episodes of Teen Titans Go that are either directly or indirectly referenced in either of those films or just completely separate the movies from the show... It's been driving me mad since 2021.
These are characters with no consistent backstory and a show with no continuity.

Whatever they reference in TTG regarding any other DC animation property is gibberish. The crossover with TT the original show is probably all you need for non-"Fifth Dimension"-esque logic or continuity.
 

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