ultimatedjf
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
Fourthded.
Fourthded.
Fantastic Four by Jonathan Hickman (#570-611) (spoilers)
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
And fifthded.
I read the entire thing from the beginning a couple weeks ago and it's so smooth. There's a lot going on but everything flows well. An omnibus would be perfect.
And fifthded.
I read the entire thing from the beginning a couple weeks ago and it's so smooth. There's a lot going on but everything flows well. An omnibus would be perfect.
Ice
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
We should just make it a comic board law that this omnibus must be bought or be punished with the worst punishment ever.
We should just make it a comic board law that this omnibus must be bought or be punished with the worst punishment ever.
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
I have only recently become addicted to them.
I have only recently become addicted to them.
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
They are too big and expensive for me. I am a reader, not a collector.
They are too big and expensive for me. I am a reader, not a collector.
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
I must be doing it backward. I buy them because I'm a reader, not a collector. If I was a collector I'd buy the issues and get them slabbed and store them in a safe.
I must be doing it backward. I buy them because I'm a reader, not a collector. If I was a collector I'd buy the issues and get them slabbed and store them in a safe.
Ultimate Houde
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
I buy them cause they are awesome.
I buy them cause they are awesome.
Bass
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
I just read #588. Firstly, Mark Brooks' art was good, right? The "nooooooooo"s were probably unfounded.
Secondly, what a beautiful little comic this is. Very heartwarming. I really started to get emotional when Val writes "KILL ANNIHILUS" on the board. Great epilogue.
I just read #588. Firstly, Mark Brooks' art was good, right? The "nooooooooo"s were probably unfounded.
Secondly, what a beautiful little comic this is. Very heartwarming. I really started to get emotional when Val writes "KILL ANNIHILUS" on the board. Great epilogue.
Ice
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
Brooks was great as always.
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
I enjoyed it but I had some questions: What was that thing Reed took to Annihilus? What was happening in Latveria? And why would the Hulk and Thor be in possession of one of Johnny's holographic wills, and why did Ben get mad (other than it being an emotionally raw time for him, of course)?
I enjoyed it but I had some questions: What was that thing Reed took to Annihilus? What was happening in Latveria? And why would the Hulk and Thor be in possession of one of Johnny's holographic wills, and why did Ben get mad (other than it being an emotionally raw time for him, of course)?
Bass
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
Reed took the ultimate nullifier to Annihilus, to threaten him for Johnny (or at least, Johnny's body).
It's possible that Hulk and Thor were given it by Reed to bring Ben in? I don't know. As for why Ben got mad - It's not so much that he got mad, but rather, he was angry, and blaming himself, and Thor and Hulk transform specifically so that Thing can hit them. He's had no one to really hit, and they can take it, so they let him get it out of his system to some extent. Ben didn't "get" mad, he was mad.
Reed took the ultimate nullifier to Annihilus, to threaten him for Johnny (or at least, Johnny's body).
It's possible that Hulk and Thor were given it by Reed to bring Ben in? I don't know. As for why Ben got mad - It's not so much that he got mad, but rather, he was angry, and blaming himself, and Thor and Hulk transform specifically so that Thing can hit them. He's had no one to really hit, and they can take it, so they let him get it out of his system to some extent. Ben didn't "get" mad, he was mad.
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
Yeah, I knew he was mad, but I hadn't considered that angle of just letting him vent. I thought they said or did something to rile him. That certainly makes more sense.
I think it was mentioned in the newest ASM that Johnny left individual messages for everyone. Maybe Reed gave Ben's, specifically, to Thor and Hulk because he knew they'd be able to handle him if he went off?
Yeah, I knew he was mad, but I hadn't considered that angle of just letting him vent. I thought they said or did something to rile him. That certainly makes more sense.
I think it was mentioned in the newest ASM that Johnny left individual messages for everyone. Maybe Reed gave Ben's, specifically, to Thor and Hulk because he knew they'd be able to handle him if he went off?
Bass
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
Interesting. Will check out ASM to see!
Interesting. Will check out ASM to see!
Iceshadow
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
In Latveria Doom was announcing Kristoff's ascension to the position of ruler.
In Latveria Doom was announcing Kristoff's ascension to the position of ruler.
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
I've not read Future Foundation but I've finally found the money to start collecting Hickman's run, having loved Nightly News.
A lot of thoughts about this, but one thing that strikes me about his version of Fantastic Four is how it's a lot less humorous than the stories that have preceded his work.
Not a major negative, but it takes getting used to.
I've not read Future Foundation but I've finally found the money to start collecting Hickman's run, having loved Nightly News.
A lot of thoughts about this, but one thing that strikes me about his version of Fantastic Four is how it's a lot less humorous than the stories that have preceded his work.
Not a major negative, but it takes getting used to.
Bass
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Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
I've not read his other work. I tried to get into SECRET WARRIORS and SHIELD but I couldn't. I'll be giving them another shot at some point.
I've not read his other work. I tried to get into SECRET WARRIORS and SHIELD but I couldn't. I'll be giving them another shot at some point.
Re: Fantastic Four #570-588 (Hickman/Eaglesham/others) Spoilers.
Secret Warriors starts off well and then just gets needlessly complicated. SHIELD starts off even more complicated but is a fun read if you stick with it.
But you really should try Nightly News. I love it.
Secret Warriors starts off well and then just gets needlessly complicated. SHIELD starts off even more complicated but is a fun read if you stick with it.
But you really should try Nightly News. I love it.
Re: Fantastic Four by Jonathan Hickman (#570+) (spoilers)
Hickman's off the book at the end of this year. He doesn't say which issue.
Hickman's off the book at the end of this year. He doesn't say which issue.
Bass
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This series is just brilliant cosmic marvel fare. I'm loving it. I'm sad to see Hickman go.
Re: Fantastic Four by Jonathan Hickman (#570+) (spoilers)
Did anyone read #604? It was, for all intents and purposes, the end of Hickman's run as it closed off most or all of his ongoing plots. It's not his last issue but I think he's only got around 6 issues or so left, and it seems like those will be some sort of tangently related epilogue or completely separate story (of course, we don't know for sure).
In that regard is was pretty epic. I loved how he handled Franklin - who seems just as powerful as he was during Heroes Reborn but is less important to the MU as a whole...he is vitally important to this story and the future of EVERYTHING, though...it's kind of hard to explain, I guess. I just thought Hickman used him really well. And Val, too, for that matter...she is much smarter than Franklin but is such a supportive and loving sister that her intelligence is almost not even her real strength.
"To me, my Galactus!" - that was pretty amazing.
Did anyone read #604? It was, for all intents and purposes, the end of Hickman's run as it closed off most or all of his ongoing plots. It's not his last issue but I think he's only got around 6 issues or so left, and it seems like those will be some sort of tangently related epilogue or completely separate story (of course, we don't know for sure).
In that regard is was pretty epic. I loved how he handled Franklin - who seems just as powerful as he was during Heroes Reborn but is less important to the MU as a whole...he is vitally important to this story and the future of EVERYTHING, though...it's kind of hard to explain, I guess. I just thought Hickman used him really well. And Val, too, for that matter...she is much smarter than Franklin but is such a supportive and loving sister that her intelligence is almost not even her real strength.
"To me, my Galactus!" - that was pretty amazing.
Bass
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"Here I can build" was priceless.
I want to go back and read it all from the beginning now.
I want to go back and read it all from the beginning now.
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Re: Fantastic Four by Jonathan Hickman (#570+) (spoilers)
Is FF going to continue after he leaves?
Is FF going to continue after he leaves?
#605, in which we learn that Ben has not aged since the accident, and only ages during the one week per year he takes the serum that turns him human. The issue is a minor tribute to his life and death. He dies in the year 6012 as a teammate of Franklin (remember we know that Franklin lives at least to the heat death of the universe.
Great issue. I hope the remaining issues in Hickman's run have that same sort of touching epilogue quality to them.
Great issue. I hope the remaining issues in Hickman's run have that same sort of touching epilogue quality to them.
Ultimate Houde
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Re: Fantastic Four by Jonathan Hickman (#570+) (spoilers)
I was pleasantly surprised by this issue.
I was pleasantly surprised by this issue.
Ice
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605.1 - WOW.
Another sort of epilogue issue to Hickman's run, in which we learn the origin of The Council and the Reed who created it.
He is from an alternate reality where Germany won WW2, and he commanded the first space mission. They received different powers. He killed Victor and took part of his brain or something and added it to his. He released Ben, who was a monster and was being kept like an animal, and Ben killed Hitler. Reed took control of Germany (the world).
Armed with the Infinity Gauntlet, he is attacked by the heroes. He loses control during a skirmish, and wipes out reality. He floats around in space for years before deciding to rebuild a future without his past mistakes, and create a council of alternate Reeds to help.
The tone of this reminded me a lot of some of Grant Morrison's Batman issues, how he goes back and reveals big things that happened in the past that you would not have though to expect. I love stuff like that.
Another sort of epilogue issue to Hickman's run, in which we learn the origin of The Council and the Reed who created it.
He is from an alternate reality where Germany won WW2, and he commanded the first space mission. They received different powers. He killed Victor and took part of his brain or something and added it to his. He released Ben, who was a monster and was being kept like an animal, and Ben killed Hitler. Reed took control of Germany (the world).
Armed with the Infinity Gauntlet, he is attacked by the heroes. He loses control during a skirmish, and wipes out reality. He floats around in space for years before deciding to rebuild a future without his past mistakes, and create a council of alternate Reeds to help.
The tone of this reminded me a lot of some of Grant Morrison's Batman issues, how he goes back and reveals big things that happened in the past that you would not have though to expect. I love stuff like that.
