How many members here are Christians?

[Zombipanda]

Um, yeah, technically, we *do* worship her -- every time we pray the "Hail Mary", or say the Rosary: "... Blessed are you amongst all women/ And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus/ Holy Mary, mother of God/ Pray for us sinners"... "Holy" and "Blessed" are undisputably words of worship.

"Worshipping" her, I should point out, does not mean we (i.e. Catholics, in general) regard her as divine. We believe her Virgin Mother status was an act of God's intercession, and thus regard her as the sacred vessel of God's human incarnation. To me, personally, that's enough reason to have a special prayer dedicated to her, and to seek her help (or, to use the technical term, intercession) in letting our prayers/devotions reach the Lord.

Just the same, I don't quite think this qualifies as "paganism" -- at least how it's popularly understood. I suspect that Mav, as usual, has a very specific definition of the term in mind :roll:

And like every other word he considers to be negative, it defines everyone who's not him.

Yeah, so basically she's a cool chick

She's way cool. My next door neighbor dated her in middle school.

 

[Hellsbuttmonkey]

Honestly I really do think Mavericker is starting to push the boundries of what is acceptable here and what is not. Saying all Catholics are paganists and idol worshippers is like me, a strong atheist, saying all of Christianity is basically just fairy tales and voodoo...
I don't believe in a god and actually have a strong dislike of organised religion in general, but I would never directly attack anothers beliefs (Unless they were Scientologists - in which case all bets are off).

 

[Dr.Strangefate]

And that's over.

 

[SSJmole]

And that's over.

Damn he's banned again!


We should start taking bets on how long he'll last when he comes back :lol:

 

[Hellsbuttmonkey]

Surely he's got a perma ban waiting for him soon, all nice, warm, lubed up and ready to be inserted rectally.

I mean come on, the guy gets banned withing two days of returning EVERY TIME!

 

[Lynx]

Surely he's got a perma ban waiting for him soon, all nice, warm, lubed up and ready to be inserted rectally.

I mean come on, the guy gets banned withing two days of returning EVERY TIME!

I think it's become a running joke. :wink:

 

[Hellsbuttmonkey]

I think it's become a running joke. :wink:

To be honest I think HE has become a running joke.

*Prays to lord Bass to smite him. Possibly with a baseball bat with a nail in it*

 

[McCheese]

And that's over.

From the bottom of my apparently pagan heart, thank you.

Damn he's banned again!


We should start taking bets on how long he'll last when he comes back :lol:

I thought this one was the long promised perma-ban.

*Prays to lord Bass to smite him. Possibly with a baseball bat with a nail in it*

Fat chance. Bass isn't big on perma-bans and he's always been one of the least critical of Mavericker.

 

[Hellsbuttmonkey]

From the bottom of my apparently pagan heart, thank you.

Do you get a cape, and a costume with Pagan Boy on it? Offends narrow minded fundamentalist nutjobs in a single word.

I thought this one was the long promised perma-ban.

God I hope so. We need a parade if it is...

Fat chance. Bass isn't big on perma-bans and he's always been one of the least critical of Mavericker.

Who said anything about Bass perma banning him? I just want him to hit Mavericker with a baseball bat...

 

[E]

*Prays to lord Bass to smite him. Possibly with a baseball bat with a nail in it*

That's no better than anything Mavericker ever posted.

 

[Random]

And that's over.

Strangefate is quickly becoming my favorite mod

Possibly with a baseball bat with a nail in it*

That's the way I wanna go

 

[Hellsbuttmonkey]

That's no better than anything Mavericker ever posted.

It might be a bit better than calling all the Catholics on the board 'Pagans and idol worshippers'... but that might just be me...

 

[SSJmole]

It might be a bit better than calling all the Catholics on the board 'Pagans and idol worshippers'... but that might just be me...

yeah but is it "Heathcliff meets street fighter" worthy?:lol:

 

[TwilightEL]

Is Mavericker permabanned? If not, how long will this one last?

 

[Seldes Katne]

Yes, Mavericker's gone for good this time. Thank you, Dr. Strangefate.

Compound, you posted a message several pages back about Vatican II and Catholic Church practices. I promise I'll post a reply in the next day or so, but I have to keep editing my remarks. I'm trying to keep the message under three pages. (Because honestly, no one wants to read that much of my take on the subject. Besides, I want to avoid turning this thread into the "Roman Catholic Gripe Subforum.)

 

[Lithium]

How many threads were started with "How Many Members Here...?" lol.

Anyway, on a more on-topic note, I am in fact a card-carrying Catholic.

 

[moonmaster]

I don't have a problem with Christian comics-as long as there are portraying Christians the right way, and it doesn't conflict with the Word of God and what it says.

I have a problem when people made things like:

Evangelyne
Preacher
Jesus vs. Zombies

Oh boy...

I think those types of comics are produced by atheists, for atheists. I think that's the reason why tv shows like Morel Orel exist.

...*sigh*...

Dogma is a sacrilegous farce about the Catholic Church, that Kevin Smith directed.

Kevin Smith-a man who uses the F-word 106 times in this film.

...Here it comes...

I think "darn you" is a euphanism for "d**m you".

You do you keep bringing up the Catholics?

I'm not a Catholic-Catholics are Pagans and idol-worshipers. No where in the Bible does it say that Christians are to worship the Virgin Mary.

It is written in Psalms 97:7:

Let all those be ashamed who serve graven images, Who boast themselves of idols; Worship Him, all you gods.

...And he's gone.

I, too, was raised Catholic.

However, unlike McCheese, I don't find it offensive to be called a "pagan" by a narrow-minded fundamentalist like Mavericker.

In fact, the Second Vatican Council (Vatican II) -- which Seldes brought up and I commented on earlier in this thread -- went a long way towards accepting so-called "pagan" rituals, or folk Catholicism (e.g nature worship, the use of totems) as acceptable ways of practicing the Apostolic Tradition -- assuming, of course, it does not contradict or warp the 'mainstream' of Scripture and Tradition, in its teachings. So, if anything, I have nothing but respect for "pagans".

Aren't most Christian "traditions" derrived from "pagan" beliefs?

I believe Christmas is just a Roman winter festival with the story of Jesus' birth attached to it. (If that episode of "The Boondocks" is correct...) Which would technically mean that all Christians - Catholic and Protestant - practice "pagan rituals".

Um, yeah, technically, we *do* worship her -- every time we pray the "Hail Mary", or say the Rosary: "... Blessed are you amongst all women/ And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus/ Holy Mary, mother of God/ Pray for us sinners"... "Holy" and "Blessed" are undisputably words of worship.

"Worshipping" her, I should point out, does not mean we (i.e. Catholics, in general) regard her as divine. We believe her Virgin Mother status was an act of God's intercession, and thus regard her as the sacred vessel of God's human incarnation. To me, personally, that's enough reason to have a special prayer dedicated to her, and to seek her help (or, to use the technical term, intercession) in letting our prayers/devotions reach the Lord.

I suppose it's similar to how Muhammed is worshipped in Islam, but only as a great prophet and not as God himself.

She's way cool. My next door neighbor dated her in middle school.

[MOONEY'S SACRILIGE OF THE DAY]Did he get to third base?[/MOONEY'S SACRILIGE OF THE DAY]

And that's over.

I'm not going to celebrate Mavericker's perma-ban (Well, at least not here. :wink: ) but I think most of us here are very...supportive of this decision.

I'm also not going to try and start some big argument about this, especially because this is entirely the wrong place, but I'd like to point out that this is quite honestly overdue. I respect the mods' ability to make decisions, but I think that Mavericker got away with a lot more than most people have for a lot longer than most people get. I'm still a bit baffled by why this didn't happen sooner, but I suppose that we should just put this mess behind us and relegate it to the halls of obscure UC reference, in order to be called upon to confuse the n00bs of the future...



...Aaand, we're back on topic.

For quite a while now I've thought that Buddhism and Christianity, in terms of core beliefs, seem to be very similar religions. Lately I've become really interested in the idea that Christianity may have been heavily influenced by Buddhist beliefs, which is backed up by some surprisingly strong evidence.

For one thing, there's the idea that Jesus may have actually travelled East, accounting for some of those missing 18 years in the gospels and maybe explaining why they were taken out. There are even references to Jesus in Buddhist writings dating back to the first century. Buddhism shares a lot of structural and symbolic similarities with Christian tradition, to the point that missionaries who encountered Buddhists for the first time thought that Satan was trying to fool them with a "knock-off" version of Catholicism.

 

[Iceshadow]

Aren't most Christian "traditions" derrived from "pagan" beliefs?

I believe Christmas is just a Roman winter festival with the story of Jesus' birth attached to it. (If that episode of "The Boondocks" is correct...) Which would technically mean that all Christians - Catholic and Protestant - practice "pagan rituals".

Yeah, the dates for Easter and Christmas were both derived from pagan holidays. I believe that this was in order to make the pagans have an easier time with conversion to Christianity.

 

[Joe Kalicki]

I have nothing to add to this discussion, except here's a picture of Cubs centerfielder Angel Pagan meeting famed televangelist President Bush:

 

[moonmaster]

I have nothing to add to this discussion, except here's a picture of Cubs centerfielder Angel Pagan meeting famed televangelist President Bush:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Dr.Strangefate]

Strangefate is quickly becoming my favorite mod

 

[Planet-man]

Strangefate is quickly becoming my favorite mod

Ditto. I think it's because he saw it from our side for the longest of them all.:wink:

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

**** it.

 

[Dr.Strangefate]

**** it.

????

 

[Zombipanda]

[MOONEY'S SACRILIGE OF THE DAY]Did he get to third base?[/MOONEY'S SACRILIGE OF THE DAY]

He made it all the way to the Cleveland Steamer.

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

????

I had a long drawn out post that would have offended half the board posted but I quickly edited it.




.... You should all be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Dr.Strangefate]

I am not sure what to be ashamed about.

 

[thee great one]

I am not sure what to be ashamed about.

Oh you know...:shifty:

 

[Random]

Yeah, the dates for Easter and Christmas were both derived from pagan holidays. I believe that this was in order to make the pagans have an easier time with conversion to Christianity.

Doesnt makes Cathilocs "less christian" or believe in multiple gods. It was just a way to make it more accessible to more people. Non-Cathiloc christians still celebrate X-mas and easter on the same dates right?

 

[Ultimate Houde]

Doesnt makes Cathilocs "less christian" or believe in multiple gods. It was just a way to make it more accessible to more people. Non-Cathiloc christians still celebrate X-mas and easter on the same dates right?

Personally, I celebrate Christmas everyday of the year

Try singing 'Deck the Halls' in August ont he beach, and man, do you get odd looks.

And Strangely enough, five dollars...