How many members here are Christians?

[moonmaster]

**** it.

:sure:

He made it all the way to the Cleveland Steamer.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You hate Jesus, don't you?

I had a long drawn out post that would have offended half the board posted but I quickly edited it.




.... You should all be ashamed of yourself.

...For what? I'd really like to know.

I am not sure what to be ashamed about.

Stop playing DSF, we've got the pictures.

That Korean immigrant is going to be scarred for life.

With which you can buy more decorations for December.

On a somewhat different topic: given the nature of the discussion on this thread, I think it might be a good idea to move it to the Lounge, since we're basically talking about various aspects of Christianity and how it's perceived and practiced in real life, not about how it's potrayed in comcs. Perhaps a general "Religion in Comics" thread would be more useful in this forum.

If there aren't any objections, I'll move this later today.

Yeah, I think it was just that Mavericker never came into The Lounge. I'm surprised it hadn't been moved before.

Speak for yourself.


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They live in Utah, have to wear special underwear, can't drink tea, coffee, or booze, don't like ****s, and sometimes have lots of wives.

I would think that the "don't like ****s" thing and the "have lots of wives" thing would be contradictory.

I'm not sure about the believing that Jesus stopped here, but I may be wrong. I thought he found the plates and someone else just bought them here a lot earlier.




That's not all true. The special underwear thing, I never heard that at all. Tea and Coffee are iffy. Some think you shouldn't drink caffeine at all. Which is not bad considering how bad it can be for you, but it's not a rule. More of a guideline.

No booze, drugs is a definitive. And no premarital sex is a huge rule.

No mormon is allowed to have more than one wive. That was erased back in the early church days. Like dozens of years ago.

There are a group of polygamist's that live in thier own special city. Which I couldn't describe how crazy these people are or how they look. There town is equally scary. I delivered furniture there.

When it comes down to it the Mormon church is basically the exact same as most other churched I seen, just with different systems and small differences.




They also have grown a lot less strict in the last decade. The older people are the scary Mormons. The bad thing about some of them are that they are so judgmental. They always thing they are better that you. A lot of people I know absolutly hate Mormons. But I have really good friends who are active Mormons, went on missions and everything. Most of what you hear is probaly and rumor or exaggeration.

I know two or three Mormon kids and they're pretty cool, it's just that the South Park episode has made me weary of the origins of Mormonism.

Plus there are the troubling stories about "blood atonement" from the early days of the church...

 

[thee great one]

I know two or three Mormon kids and they're pretty cool, it's just that the South Park episode has made me weary of the origins of Mormonism.

Plus there are the troubling stories about "blood atonement" from the early days of the church...

Exactly. This why I don't follow any religion at all. How do I know it's not some guys huge made up story. It's worst than politics.

 

[Zombipanda]

I would think that the "don't like ****s" thing and the "have lots of wives" thing would be contradictory.

They use their wives for hard labor, not for funbag fondling.

 

[Random]

Anyone else think Maverick was just some nut whose made it his mission to convert the comic geek community to his religion, but had no concept of how to actualy convince people of things?

 

[marvelman]

It was cited in Wikipedia.

This is the last remaining post from Mavericker.

And I just wanted to say:

"How fitting."
:lol:

Also, what happened to the "should superman eat zombie brains" thread? i thought it was museumed.

and the should batman fly? is that still around?

anyways, all hail the mods.

 

[McCheese]

Also, what happened to the "should superman eat zombie brains" thread? i thought it was museumed.

Please don't get Joe started on this.

 

[Ultimate Houde]

Guys, let's keep the thread on topic

 

[Joe Kalicki]

Guys, let's keep the thread on topic

You just don't wnat the real culprit to get pointed out.

 

[Ultimate Houde]

You just don't wnat the real culprit to get pointed out.

I can neither confrim nor deny this statement

On Topic, I'm an atheist, ask me why!

 

[Random]

Guys, let's keep the thread on topic

Ice? Is... is that you?

On Topic, I'm an atheist, ask me why!

... when?

 

[Joe Kalicki]

I can neither confrim nor deny this statement

On Topic, I'm an atheist, ask me why!

Science?

 

[Ultimate Houde]

I said ask me, not answer the damn question.

 

[marvelman]

I said ask me, not answer the damn question.

Exchange of the day.

Its like the posts of the day that make the funniest exchange.

 

[Joe Kalicki]

Exchange of the day.

Its like the posts of the day that make the funniest exchange.

You're just looking for a gimmick because nobody knows who you are.

 

[Planet-man]

On Topic, I'm an atheist, ask me why!

I've never even remotely understood the logic behind this.

"I don't believe in clockmakers."

"Why not?"

"I've throughly examined this clock, and I can see that the hands move because of gears, the gears move because of springs, the springs move because of tension, and so on."

"But where did all that stuff come from?"

"..."

:?

 

[Lynx]

I've never even remotely understood the logic behind this.

"I don't believe in clockmakers."

"Why not?"

"I've throughly examined this clock, and I can see that the hands move because of gears, the gears move because of springs, the springs move because of tension, and so on."

"But where did all that stuff come from?"

"..."

:?

And it comes back to "Who created the clockmaker?" almost every time. . .

 

[TwilightEL]

That clockmaker thing is total crap. When you see a clock in the desert, you don't think it's made by someone because it's so complicated, you think it's made by someone because it's a ****ing clock. You know what a clock is, you've seen it before, they don't occur in nature.

 

[Fredrik Martinsson]

I've never even remotely understood the logic behind this.

"I don't believe in clockmakers."

"Why not?"

"I've throughly examined this clock, and I can see that the hands move because of gears, the gears move because of springs, the springs move because of tension, and so on."

"But where did all that stuff come from?"

"..."

:?

Actually, it would be more like this:

"I don't believe in clock-fairies."

"Why not?"

"I've thoroughly examined this clock, and I can see that the hands move because of gears, the gears move because of springs, the springs move because of tension, and so on. And the instruments and marks suggests that it was made by tools. So the logic solution would be that a person made this."

"You are crazy. I have read in a book that it was clock-fairies that made it so it must be true because I have proof in form of a book that was written by people I never met thousands of years ago."

 

[E]

Blaspheming people's religion is inappropriate. Watch it.

 

[Random]

Blaspheming people's religion is inappropriate. Watch it.

I dont think atheist is actually a religion, still we're talking about the clock making arguement itself

 

[the watcher]

I had a Jehovah's Witness knock on my door and tell me this. I was talking to her and suddenly she comes out with:
"I have scientific evidence that God exists."
Intregued, I asked her what her proof was. She told me
"Scientists have proven that the events that came togther to create life were so improbable, that God had to have existed to start the reactions off."

Talk about blind faith.
I just said to her,
"No, that just means that the odds of such an event were highly unlikely to have happened. They can still happen though, like a coin landing edge side instead of heads or tails. Almost impossible, but I have seen it happen. Your reasoning doesn't even give any basis for God existing, just that an external catalyst must have been present. It didn't have to be your all powerful deity, it could have been another chemical."

She looked at me blankly, so I decided to wind her up and tell her I was a Satanist.

Some of the events in the Bible could have easily happened though, I do not dispute that. I don't believe in people (Sons of God or not) pulling a Jean Grey and coming back to life, but a lot of the events mentioned by others like the Flood etc are probably based in fact.

I had a Jehovah's Witness knock on my door with her two kids once. Her son creeped me out to no end... He looked like spark of life was just drained right out of him. Like he never had a moment of fun in his life. He looked like one of those kids from the Children of the Damned. He was well dressed, well mannered, and talked with a creep british accent. He was like, As you can see here in the book of *blab bla bla* you'll note that it is positively lifting. *(shutter)*

Me I'm Presbyterian.

 

[E]

I dont think atheist is actually a religion, still we're talking about the clock making arguement itself

Nope, I'm talking about the posts I had to remove.

 

[McCheese]

I've never even remotely understood the logic behind this.

"I don't believe in clockmakers."

"Why not?"

"I've throughly examined this clock, and I can see that the hands move because of gears, the gears move because of springs, the springs move because of tension, and so on."

"But where did all that stuff come from?"

"..."

:?

That is the most nonsensical argument I've ever heard. And I argue with mole 3 times a week, so that's impressive.

That clockmaker thing is total crap. When you see a clock in the desert, you don't think it's made by someone because it's so complicated, you think it's made by someone because it's a ****ing clock. You know what a clock is, you've seen it before, they don't occur in nature.

:lol:

Actually, it would be more like this:

"I don't believe in clock-fairies."

"Why not?"

"I've thoroughly examined this clock, and I can see that the hands move because of gears, the gears move because of springs, the springs move because of tension, and so on. And the instruments and marks suggests that it was made by tools. So the logic solution would be that a person made this."

"You are crazy. I have read in a book that it was clock-fairies that made it so it must be true because I have proof in form of a book that was written by people I never met thousands of years ago."

Exactly.

 

[Planet-man]

And it comes back to "Who created the clockmaker?" almost every time. . .

Right you are, but I think that question makes a lot more sense than the complete lack of response I've had so far from the science-based atheists(not just on this site).

Where did God come from? No clue, but mostly because I don't really understand what God is, if God can even be defined in our terms.

Either way, though, the existense of God has just been acknowledged, which is my whole point here.

That clockmaker thing is total crap. When you see a clock in the desert, you don't think it's made by someone because it's so complicated, you think it's made by someone because it's a ****ing clock. You know what a clock is, you've seen it before, they don't occur in nature.

I hope this is sarcasm.:roll:

Actually, it would be more like this:

"I don't believe in clock-fairies."

"Why not?"

"I've thoroughly examined this clock, and I can see that the hands move because of gears, the gears move because of springs, the springs move because of tension, and so on. And the instruments and marks suggests that it was made by tools. So the logic solution would be that a person made this."

"You are crazy. I have read in a book that it was clock-fairies that made it so it must be true because I have proof in form of a book that was written by people I never met thousands of years ago."

And I agree with you about this too, which is why I don't belong to any organized religion, nor believe in God for any reason to do with a Bible.

My belief in God, and his role in the creation of the Universe(not to be confused with the creation of mankind in his own image, as I am a firm evolutionist), would place him in the role of the person who crafted the clock in this allegory, and I've still yet to hear anyone ever use science to explain why that person is unlikely to exist.

 

[Dr.Strangefate]

God Created us in his image = We can think, feel, love, and create in ways that nothing else we've encountered in our world ever has.

That's how i've always viewed it.

Somewhere along the evolutionary path our brain developed into something that could make art, something self-actualized... something with the intelectual curiousity to discover the limits of the world and discern its laws and history.

But maybe i am just crazy. We'll just have to see when the Dolphins decide to start opening museums.

 

[Ultimate Houde]

I'm an atheist in the fact I don't believe in a religion out there right now. You telling me there's some big Guy looking down on us? I don't think so. That notion is absurb in my opinion, but it makes some people feel better, thinking there's n embiodiment of everything out there watching over us. The thought of that irks me, and rubs me the wrong way. But I also respect people's beliefs, so respect mine in that front. Don't go telling me I'm wrong because I believe the universe was, and you believe the universe was made from some guy.

I'm not an atheist because I am a scientist, I was an atheist well before that. It's simply my belief. Read 'Small Gods' by Pratchett, and you have me represented by the General. He put it into words what I can't seem to do right now.

 

[marvelman]

You're just looking for a gimmick because nobody knows who you are.

:noway: :cry:

thanks a lot, Joe.

 

[SSJmole]

:noway: :cry:

thanks a lot, Joe.

It's ok Marvelman I know who you are.

You were one of the little rascals

 

[Bass]

I dont think atheist is actually a religion, still we're talking about the clock making arguement itself

They so totally are. I've met "born again" atheists. Pisses me off so much. They go around saying that their beliefs are correct, anyone for disagreeing is stupid, and that they're right because they 'know' they are right. Well ****ing done, you've just done exactly what you berate religious people for doing.

Ugh.

I don't have a problem with people not believing in God - spirituality and thus religion should be personal - I just have a problem with people being arrogant hypocrites, and there's plenty of atheists and plenty of religious people who fit that ****ing bill.

All the religious, spiritual, wisdom goes out of the window when moral judgements are deigned onto what people think.

Or something.

I HAVE SOLVED ALL RELIGIOUS ARGUMENTS. BOW BEFORE ME.

 

[Ultimate Houde]

I am not an atheist who walks around telling people they are wrong though

Do you even read my posts Bass?