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https://www.thepopverse.com/marvel-moon-girl-devil-dinosaur-interviewMoon Girl and Devil Dinosaur takes place in its own world, away from the Marvel Cinematic Universe. "We aren't really connected to the MCU officially," Fishburne says. "Our show is really a family show. Maybe we're not going to save the world, but we are going to save the Lower East Side."

"I always like to say complementary to the MCU because you'll see a couple of MCU characters in the show," Loter adds. "You'll see that some of the characters we have in there are really deep cuts in Marvel Comics, like you really got to dive in to actually find. There's a lot of easter eggs, not just in backgrounds like you noticed, there's all over the place, even in some dialogue, and in some other places. Just stay tuned. Make a list, because there's quite a few, because we're big fans too.

As Selfishmisery said, it could be a branch. It's not MCU though.
 
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https://www.thepopverse.com/marvel-moon-girl-devil-dinosaur-interviewMoon Girl and Devil Dinosaur takes place in its own world, away from the Marvel Cinematic Universe. "We aren't really connected to the MCU officially," Fishburne says. "Our show is really a family show. Maybe we're not going to save the world, but we are going to save the Lower East Side."

"I always like to say complementary to the MCU because you'll see a couple of MCU characters in the show," Loter adds. "You'll see that some of the characters we have in there are really deep cuts in Marvel Comics, like you really got to dive in to actually find. There's a lot of easter eggs, not just in backgrounds like you noticed, there's all over the place, even in some dialogue, and in some other places. Just stay tuned. Make a list, because there's quite a few, because we're big fans too.

As Selfishmisery said, it could be a branch. It's not MCU though.
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Isn't this a Hellstorm-like thing though? One of Hellstorm's creators had said the same thing because he meant it was unrelated (albeit part of the same universe). They look like the same words to me
 
Dego Strange said:
Isn't this a Hellstorm-like thing though? One of Hellstorm's creators had said the same thing because he meant it was unrelated (albeit part of the same universe). They look like the same words to me
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Except Helstrom was developed to be connected to the MCU with planned crossovers with other Horror based characters including the Ghost Rider from AoS. Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur is not being developed as part of the MCU, just pulling from it thematically and design wise much like how many of the animated series releasing during the MCU pulled designs from the films. I will admit they went one step farther by having a couple cast members return as well but Ultimate Spider-Man had Clark Gregg as Phil Coulson and that wasn't MCU
 
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Except Helstrom was developed to be connected to the MCU with planned crossovers with other Horror based characters including the Ghost Rider from AoS. Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur is not being developed as part of the MCU, just pulling from it thematically and design wise much like how many of the animated series releasing during the MCU pulled designs from the films. I will admit they went one step farther by having a couple cast members return as well but Ultimate Spider-Man had Clark Gregg as Phil Coulson and that wasn't MCU
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I agree that they are not related, only that this statement is similarly ambiguous.
 
New Kraven trailer is out. How can it be connected to MCU (in the same way as Venom/ Morbius) when it has Russell Crowe and Aaron Taylor Johnson in it, in different roles than they played in the MCU? At least the other times this happened (Eternals/ Captain Marvel etc), the characters had make up to look different, or they only played a voice in the "alternate" role(s). (not counting Netflix shows, as I'm 99% certain that Luke Cage is no longer cannon in Feige's (and my) eyes. Also nothing in movie says that was Amadeus Cho in Incredible Hulk, it was Mr. Harrington. But the two guys in Kraven look pretty much the same as they did in the MCU.
 
marioxb said:
New Kraven trailer is out. How can it be connected to MCU (in the same way as Venom/ Morbius) when it has Russell Crowe and Aaron Taylor Johnson in it, in different roles than they played in the MCU? At least the other times this happened (Eternals/ Captain Marvel etc), the characters had make up to look different, or they only played a voice in the "alternate" project (not counting Netflix shows, as I'm 99% certain that Luke Cage is no longer cannon in Feige's (and my) eyes. Also nothing in movie says that was Amadeus Cho in Incredible Hulk, it was Mr. Harrington. But the two guys in Kraven look pretty much the same as they did in the MCU.
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Dude actors don't mean that much. You mentioned The Incredible Hulk but the main character of that film is now played by another actor. Not to mention this is Sony Universe not related to Marvel Studios or the MCU at all outside a post-credit scene cameo and AtSV connecting the two, they're not gonna loose out on great casting cause the MCU used these guys once. If it was set in the MCU or even an Marvel Studios project then they'd like not cast them. And if you think this is bad, do not look into the DC Multiverse it is full of actor reappearing in different universes that have confirmed connections. This isnt the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. Chill out it's not that deep, it's just casting
 
marioxb said:
New Kraven trailer is out. How can it be connected to MCU (in the same way as Venom/ Morbius) when it has Russell Crowe and Aaron Taylor Johnson in it, in different roles than they played in the MCU? At least the other times this happened (Eternals/ Captain Marvel etc), the characters had make up to look different, or they only played a voice in the "alternate" role(s). (not counting Netflix shows, as I'm 99% certain that Luke Cage is no longer cannon in Feige's (and my) eyes. Also nothing in movie says that was Amadeus Cho in Incredible Hulk, it was Mr. Harrington. But the two guys in Kraven look pretty much the same as they did in the MCU.
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Two separate universes where the characters look similar. Doesn't really need much more of an explanation.
 
Starvel said:
Dude actors don't mean that much. You mentioned The Incredible Hulk but the main character of that film is now played by another actor. Not to mention this is Sony Universe not related to Marvel Studios or the MCU at all outside a post-credit scene cameo and AtSV connecting the two, they're not gonna loose out on great casting cause the MCU used these guys once. If it was set in the MCU or even an Marvel Studios project then they'd like not cast them. And if you think this is bad, do not look into the DC Multiverse it is full of actor reappearing in different universes that have confirmed connections. This isnt the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. Chill out it's not that deep, it's just casting
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In my mind, the experiments that Mr. Blue did on Banner caused him and his Hulk form to morph into Ruffalo and how Hulk looks now. And the blood that Abomination got was part of that as well, causing him to morph into how he looks now too.

Rhodey was in a car crash, had total reconstructive surgery and turned into Don Cheadle.

Explained. Works for me. Lol.
 
marioxb said:
In my mind, the experiments that Mr. Blue did on Banner caused him and his Hulk form to morph into Ruffalo and how Hulk looks now. And the blood that Abomination got was part of that as well, causing him to morph into how he looks now too.

Rhodey was in a car crash, had total reconstructive surgery and turned into Don Cheadle.

Explained. Works for me. Lol.
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also not canon lol?
 
marioxb said:
In my mind, the experiments that Mr. Blue did on Banner caused him and his Hulk form to morph into Ruffalo and how Hulk looks now. And the blood that Abomination got was part of that as well, causing him to morph into how he looks now too.

Rhodey was in a car crash, had total reconstructive surgery and turned into Don Cheadle.

Explained. Works for me. Lol.
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That's great for you, if explainations like that work for you I suggest you find a way to explain to yourself how people in completely separate universes look alike. Should be no problem with theories like that. But the canon answer is casting is sometimes just casting.
 
eloesch289 said:
also not canon lol?
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No, but the two 2008 released movies themselves are canon, so, I my brain needs something to make it fit. Especially in a marathon watch.

OK, so Quicksilver died and was reincarnated as Kraven, in another universe. And that universe has a human who looks like Zeus. Whatever, it works, I guess.
 
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Wait till they hear about Wade Wilson (Weapon XI), Wade Wilson (Deadpool), Ryan Reynolds and Cain Marko (Revised Timeline) in the X-Men Universe, lol. They all look like Ryan Reynolds, except Juggernaut who is just voiced by Ryan Reynolds.
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I'm still wondering how the multiverse stuff works. Like can no face be reused cause Doctor Strange was. And if they can do variants have to have the same face cause Spider-Man didn't.
 
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Wait till they hear about Wade Wilson (Weapon XI), Wade Wilson (Deadpool), Ryan Reynolds and Cain Marko (Revised Timeline) in the X-Men Universe, lol. They all look like Ryan Reynolds, except Juggernaut who is just voiced by Ryan Reynolds.
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I had no idea Ryan Reynolds played the voice! But where did he play the human form of Juggernaut?

Starvel said:
I'm still wondering how the multiverse stuff works. Like can no face be reused cause Doctor Strange was. And if they can do variants have to have the same face cause Spider-Man didn't.
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Doctor Strange, Mordo and Loki had variants that looked the same as the originals. Loki also had variants that didn't. I think everyone else also didn't look the same?

As far as Deadpool 3, I'm guessing they won't bring anyone into the MCU who wasn't in Deadpool 1 and 2 (besides Wolverine, for just that one movie). Also probably not the young Xmen who cameoed in DP2. At least if they bring in Cable, he pretty much looks nothing like Thanos.
 
marioxb said:
I had no idea Ryan Reynolds played the voice! But where did he play the human form of Juggernaut?

Doctor Strange, Mordo and Loki had variants that looked the same as the originals. Loki also had variants that didn't. I think everyone else also didn't look the same?

As far as Deadpool 3, I'm guessing they won't bring anyone into the MCU who wasn't in Deadpool 1 and 2 (besides Wolverine, for just that one movie). Also probably not the young Xmen who cameoed in DP2. At least if they bring in Cable, he pretty much looks nothing like Thanos.
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He didn't play the human form just the voice, that's what he specified

Peggy Carter, Maria Rambeau and Prof. Xavier all look the same. But Spider-Man doesn't and Mister Fantastic won't. That's my point, variants are all over the place so clearly faces don't matter at least when it comes to the multiverse so Kraven and his father being the same actors as Quicksilver and Zeus shouldn't matter either

It's been rumored various other Fox Marvel characters will be appearing in the film so I wouldn't bet on that
 
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Yeah, I always wondered why the three Spider-Man look diferent but are variants, like, what makes them be identified as the same person and not as 3 individuals that just so happen to be called "Peter Parker" (and all have an Aunt May, Uncle Ben, Richard Parker and Mary Parker as relatives)? But yeah, the real world explanation is just that +22 years ago they didn't just plan for it (I mean, it would be imposible to plan this, hat were they suppose to do, use Tobey instead of Andrew in the Webb film duology and then again with the MCU?). I can just asume that by a cosmic coincidence they are people from even different species that look very similar without being variants of each other like sometimes when people in some random places look like famous people. Seeing as they are now "canon events" I guess there could be some explanation about forces of destiny wanting to always be wanting that there is a guy called "Peter Parker" that becomes bitten and everything else.
 
Jozaca said:
Yeah, I always wondered why the three Spider-Man look diferent but are variants, like, what makes them be identified as the same person and not as 3 individuals that just so happen to be called "Peter Parker" (and all have an Aunt May, Uncle Ben, Richard Parker and Mary Parker as relatives)? But yeah, the real world explanation is just that +22 years ago they didn't just plan for it (I mean, it would be imposible to plan this, hat were they suppose to do, use Tobey instead of Andrew in the Webb film duology and then again with the MCU?). I can just asume that by a cosmic coincidence they are people from even different species that look very similar without being variants of each other like sometimes when people in some random places look like famous people. Seeing as they are now "canon events" I guess there could be some explanation about forces of destiny wanting to always be wanting that there is a guy called "Peter Parker" that becomes bitten and everything else.
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I mean Loki showed before Spider-Man that variants can be very wide ranging in appearance and even name to the point where some don't even called themselves Loki. The Multiverse has near infinite possibilities, it's actually more unlikely that they'd all share the same face and identity in every universe than not. There's honestly no point in over thinking this. Faces, gender and even species can and will be different when it comes to the Multiverse.
 
Jozaca said:
Yeah, I always wondered why the three Spider-Man look diferent but are variants, like, what makes them be identified as the same person and not as 3 individuals that just so happen to be called "Peter Parker" (and all have an Aunt May, Uncle Ben, Richard Parker and Mary Parker as relatives)? But yeah, the real world explanation is just that +22 years ago they didn't just plan for it (I mean, it would be imposible to plan this, hat were they suppose to do, use Tobey instead of Andrew in the Webb film duology and then again with the MCU?). I can just asume that by a cosmic coincidence they are people from even different species that look very similar without being variants of each other like sometimes when people in some random places look like famous people. Seeing as they are now "canon events" I guess there could be some explanation about forces of destiny wanting to always be wanting that there is a guy called "Peter Parker" that becomes bitten and everything else.
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Branches occurred from the beginning of time to the far future.

Basically, Raimiverse Peter and the Parker family were born a lot earlier than on Earth-199999 for example.
 
The website works for me (this morning didn't) but when I search for "the comic board" in google the site appears as "FW2021 NO NAME80s 牛革スエード23.5 | www ..."
 
Secret Invasion is placed after Quantumania on Disney+. There are a couple of mentions of Fury being in contact with the Skrulls for 30 years but it can easily be a generalization the same way they say Janet was in the Quantum Realm for 30 years, even though it would be 31. Hill mentions the lack of contact with Fury being "a few years" which along with the Disney + placement has me leaning towards 2026. The episode would then end on November 4th, 2026 (Unity Day).
 
Haven't watched the episode fully yet just skimmed through it to see how many day/night cycles there are or how many days pass. (Counted about 3/4 days) but from what i could tell we are definitely in the first few days of November 2025 so right after werewolf by night on October 31st and if the marvels is set after this series, we could be looking at a late November/early December 2025 placement for the film which would also work for the Ms marvel finale post credits scene. (Btw I'm firmly of the opinion that ant-man 3 is in July 2025 because there is too much supporting evidence for it not to be in 2025)
(E.g. that reference in Wakanda forever, Secret invasion is supposed to be after she hulk, so summer 2025,30 years line,etc.)
 
I'm personally leaning to the series being set in 2026 mostly because as it's been pointed out the 30 years comment could be easily rounded down from 31 and since there isn't much else besides Unity Day nicely giving us the month I'd go with Disney+'s placement until more info possibly is revealed as the show continues
 

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