Avengers Mighty Avengers Series Discussion **SPOILERS**

[mike3717]

Mighty Avengers 21 = Epic.
Read it!

I have to disagree. It was "meh" at best. I can appreciate Wanda showing up again. But was she time hopping or are all those heroes really dead only to be magically brought back at the end of the arc?

I am sick to death of Hank Pym's hurt feelings already. And him renaming his Yellowjacket identity to Wasp is just kinda.....gay.

And Hulk smashes out from under 1000 tons of ice. (2,000,000 lbs)
So why don't we just say it already....Hulk can lift anything. OK. He gets mad and he can bench press the earth. With one hand.

And the cliffhanger at the end was lame and predictable.

 

[Doc Comic]

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so, the new line up is
Wasp (Hank Pym)
Jocasta
Scarlet Witch
US Agent (I guess Omega flight didn't work out for him)
Hercules
Iron Man
Stature
Vision
Hulk

The only reason I care at all is b/c it seems like the chances for a continuation of the Young Avengers series are pretty slim at this point

I haven't read Marvel since the middle of Secret Invasion, so excuse me if the following sounds kinda, well, comic-illiterate.

Why is Hank Pym now called "Wasp?" Wasp died, right? That's what I was told. But why would you take on your estranged ex-wife's codename just because she died? Sure, I can see him doing it as a "tribute" to his dead partner, but I didn't see Batman rename himself Robin when Jason died.

Where in the HELL did Wanda come from? Last time I saw her, she had been boinking Hawkeye and doing funny magic things to doorknobs.

Hulk and Iron Man on the same team? Didn't Hulk just kick the living crap out of Iron Man and all of humanity like a year ago? Oh you, Marvel, with your never-consistent status quo.

As for the rest, it's a really big "meh." Do we really need Jocasta AND Vision? Jocasta period, for that matter. US Agent, Stature, and Hercules? Whatever. I suppose US Agent fills the obligatory Captain America spot that every Avengers team seems to need, and Hercules fills the god role that they always have. But why do we even need Stature? There's already Pym, not to mention Stature is just...blah, whatever.

I'm not impressed. I haven't been impressed by Marvel's main titles in a long time. Some of their books are good, like Nova, but those books are also severely underrated. Maybe DC's consistency in bringing home the bacon in the last few years has elevated my palate to a level Marvel just can't match right now.

 

[Ultimate Houde]

The issue itself was pretty bad. It was huge magic upheavel, and the Witch gathering everyone in the old Avengers team, of course those people weren't available because the magics were killing him. So she basically gathers all she can find, then gets to Wasp, who is talking to Hercules and Amadues Cho, plus Jarvis for some reason about being a hero and all that jazz. Jocosta is there as well. Insert Doctor Who joke, and then they go outside, and BAM witch shows up tells Hank to be a hero, so he does and says Avenger's Assemble, and BAM the rest of them show up.

That's all I got. Oh, and Iron Man is in Orbit, observing everything going on Earth. He's not part of the team yet.

 

[E]

Mighty Avengers 21 = Epic.
Read it!

I read it. It was...weird.

I have to disagree. It was "meh" at best.

I can't decide what I thought of it. On one hand, it was bold, and I admire that on some level.

On the other hand, I hate the makeup of the team and the story wasn't very good.

 

[McCheese]

I can't decide what I thought of it. On one hand, it was bold, and I admire that on some level.

On the other hand, I hate the makeup of the team and the story wasn't very good.

Agreed.

 

[thee great one]

For the big return of Scarlet Witch, that was it? Seriously?

Why does Marvel constantly change everything only to change it again? Why invent Tony with Extremis, only to take it away again? Why have the Hulk destroy half of New York and making him more intelligent, only to turn him into classic Hulk again?

I don't like Jarvis or Hank Pym. I can't stand robot-human relationships.

This book is almost everything wrong with Marvel.

And what the hell is going on with Quicksilver? He's not dead or what the hell.

 

[mike3717]

For the big return of Scarlet Witch, that was it? Seriously?

Why does Marvel constantly change everything only to change it again? Why invent Tony with Extremis, only to take it away again? Why have the Hulk destroy half of New York and making him more intelligent, only to turn him into classic Hulk again?

I don't like Jarvis or Hank Pym. I can't stand robot-human relationships.

This book is almost everything wrong with Marvel.

And what the hell is going on with Quicksilver? He's not dead or what the hell.

Yeah. That sounds about right.

 

[McCheese]

People on Newsarama are *****ing about Khoi Pham's art.

There were a lot of things wrong with this issue, but the art was as good as you could do with such a rushed, meandering plot. The failure in this first issue falls on Slott, not Pham.

 

[E]

People on Newsarama are *****ing about Khoi Pham's art.

There were a lot of things wrong with this issue, but the art was as good as you could do with such a rushed, meandering plot. The failure in this first issue falls on Slott, not Pham.

Totally agreed. I didn't care much for the art, but it's probably the least important thing to complain about in this issue.

 

[Doc Comic]

This book is almost everything wrong with Marvel.

Funnily enough, neither Bendis nor Loeb wrote this one.

 

[thee great one]

Slott is not a bad writer.

I find his stuff pretty boring, but never terrible.

 

[ultimatedjf]

Mighty Avengers 21 = Epic.
Read it!

I agree.

That is all.

 

[Grocer Man]

At least they're acknowleging Green Scar Hulk again.

I'm looking at you, Loeb.

 

[Bass]

Slott is not a bad writer.

I find his stuff pretty boring, but never terrible.

I just found in a long box at my LCS Superman Adventures #57 by Slott. I was superb. I love that guy.

 

[Ice]

I just found in a long box at my LCS Superman Adventures #57 by Slott. I was superb. I love that guy.

Me too. You can talk to him for hours on end about everything comics. That's what almost happened back in WWPhilly '06 if we weren't kicked out the room so DC could set up for their panel.

 

[ProjectX2]

I tried the first issue of Slott's arc and it was pretty dull. I'll just stick to New Avengers, I guess.

 

[E]

I tried the first issue of Slott's arc and it was pretty dull. I'll just stick to New Avengers, I guess.

I didn't think it was dull - quite the opposite actually - I just didn't really care about what was happening.

 

[AnTwan]

I tried the first issue of Slott's arc and it was pretty dull. I'll just stick to New Avengers, I guess.

I didn't think it was dull - quite the opposite actually - I just didn't really care about what was happening.

One of these is true for me. I took it off my pull list. I just couldn't be bothered. Nothing in the book held my interest. I think what is really good about Bendis' Avengers is that it's never really a team. The team changes every 2-3 story arcs, but even those arcs are all tied together. It feels more like a team-up book then anything thing. "Hey Spidey, we got a lead on that ninja thing, want to come finish the job? We're meeting at Strange's place" "Oh yeah, I'll be right over."
Avenger's seems to work best this way... Maybe Slott needs more time, but he will get it from me in the trade.

 

[E]

Spoilers for issue #23...


You've been warned...

Avengers: Secret of the Scarlet Witch

With the shocking unveiling at the end of MIGHTY AVENGERS #23, writer Dan Slott may soon be known as the trickster of the Marvel Universe.

The end of Slott and artist Khoi Pham's opening arc on the title revealed that the Scarlet Witch responsible for bringing these new Avengers together actually answers to another name: Loki. The goddess known for her lying ways and connection to the original Avengers keeps her crown of lies intact, but what does that mean for the series going forward?

"Loki makes this team even 'Avengery-er,'" laughs Slott. "Once again, Loki has put together the Mighty Avengers, but this time she's going to keep a tighter lock on them. And whether they know it or not, they'll be doing things that she wants. Everyone has been saying 'This is Hank Pym's Avengers,' but this is Loki's Avengers."

Complicating matters further comes the fact that Loki currently sits on Norman Osborn's sinister Cabal, the group calling the shots on the biggest players in the Marvel Universe, and two power-hungry leaders on one shadowy cabinet can't be good for Osborn's long-term stability.

 

[thee great one]

That may be a good idea?

 

[ProjectX2]

I like it... though it reminds me of what Bass and others thought Disassembled should have been - Loki manipulating Hulk into killing the Avengers.

 

[Zombipanda]

So, Mighty Avengers is Marvel's JSA. I dig it.

 

[E]

That may be a good idea?

My thoughts exactly, including the question mark.

 

[thee great one]

This thread is hilarious at 1 AM.

 

[ProjectX2]

We need a Wolverine, Thor and ninjas.

 

[Zombipanda]

We need a Wolverine, Thor and ninjas.

Where's the Deadpool?

 

[Victor Von Doom]

What's a Deadpool?

 

[E]

What's a Deadpool?

A way to appeal to 12-year olds.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

A way to appeal to 12-year olds.

HA!

Better than a "What's a nubian?" response....

 

[E]

I can't stand robot-human relationships.

What an odd thing to hate.

I hope you all go back and reread Watchmen, but instead you replace the captions with the thought bubbles.

Then you'll see how wrong you are.

Retroactive Post of the Day. Again. Because it's genius.