Sonic the Hedgehog Canon Universe - Timeline (Work in Progress)

[Jozaca]

And also because (I think) a Dark Chao appears? Technically Dark Chao should be a natural occurrence that exists even before Sonic Adventure 2, but you are clearly supposed to have played Sonic Adventure 2 to know them (Although the Sonic Adventure DX version adds them to Sonic Adventure 1, but I haven't really put too much thought about the canonicity of Chao Garden).

 

[Megatron]

okay, I did some research on the Tailstube shorts, so Shorts #1 to 2 are set somewhere between Sonic Forces and sonic Frontiers, Shorts #3 is set just before frontiers, and short #4 after frontiers.

 

[Jozaca]

okay, I did some research on the Tailstube shorts, so Shorts #1 to 2 are set somewhere between Sonic Forces and sonic Frontiers, Shorts #3 is set just before frontiers, and short #4 after frontiers.

I thought you were going to say that a new animated YouTube short has been released

 

[Jozaca]

 

[Megatron]

I thought you were going to say that a new animated YouTube short has been released

well, I can't know everything ahahahah.

 

[Jozaca]

Sonic Runners Adventure is available for me to buy in Google Play, and has reviews as late as last month, so the game probably works and is not a store bug. The wiki says that it is inavailable as of 2023. I remember buying (or maybe it was free with micro transactions, IDK) a Sonic Runners game and after 3 months or so it becaming unavailable all of suden even if it was still downloaded in the phone. Probably was Sonic Runners 1 (?). The plot of the two of them seem to be very similar, but apparently is different. I am going to buy it to investigate.

 

[Megatron]

watching the State of Play, they annunced Sonic x Shadow Generations.

 

[Megatron]

 

[Megatron]

sonic x shadows is baing shown.

 

[Megatron]

Mr. Jozaca, I have a question regarding the Mania section. As the IDW Artice u have at the start says, both Adventures and Encore Mode are canon, how does it work?

Also that article was updated and placed the TailsTube shorts in the timeline! So maybe it could help u.

 

[Jozaca]

Mr. Jozaca, I have a question regarding the Mania section. As the IDW Artice u have at the start says, both Adventures and Encore Mode are canon, how does it work?

I don't actually know. I thought I will check out the YouTube podcast that the article uses as source were apparently Ian Flynn says that both are canon.

One way I can think of but I don't now if it is too fanfic-ty is that maybe after Sonic is absorbed by the Phantom Ruby at the end of Mania Mode he gets only sent to the beginning of Encore Mode that maybe takes place like some days in the future. After that, in some other occasion he is pulled into the future again by the Phantom Ruby for some reason, and then gets in Forces and that's when he returns to Mania Adventures. Since the Mania Adventures beginning is the one that syncs with Forces ending.

Also that article was updated and placed the TailsTube shorts in the timeline! So maybe it could help u.

Thanks but right now I am redoing everything. I have started redoing the entire timeline as you can see in the 5-7 messages. The reason I haven't deleted the first message is to preserve the level breakdown of the games for when I merge the two messages.

 

[Jozaca]

???

 

[Jozaca]

So, the Movie DLC of Shadow Generations was released. I have not played or watched a gameplay yet, but the plot seems to be exactly what I imagined:
With the DLC installed a giant ring appears in White Space for no aparent reason. Shadow crosses it. Appears in the movie universe probably during the scene in Tokyo. Defeats all the robots that try to kill him and returns home never to mention it again.

So, apparently the writer or someone else has said that it is probably non-canon to either the game or movie universe according to the wiki.
However I always get the impression that when asked, the staff (even if they are writers) of the different movies, comics, games, etc. doesn't have the same definition of canon that we do or at least doesn't understand what it is meant to be.
I am not sure if they just mean that it is non canon because it has no relevance to the plot of SXSG or StH3 and it is never going to come up again. By the looks of it, seems bizarre, but not technically impossible, that Shadow just traveled to the movie universe and came back. Also note that they dropped a teaser of a game called "Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds" were Shadow crosses a giant ring that is a portal, implying that this is how they "cross worlds" so it seems that the multiverse is going to be explored more and giant rings are going to be consistently a form of travel between worlds (Or maybe I am reading too much of a 30 seconds teaser that is probably not even going to be an in-game cutscene).

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Figured this might be of interest @Jozaca
https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/character/worldstory/index.html

 

[Chapmike]

Some needed corrections for the classic era.

• Sonic 1 (16 bits): Final Zone is a single act.
• Sonic CD: There are no Good and Bad Present zones, just Present. Each Zone 3 also has a Bad Future version.
• Sonic 2 (16 bits): Death Egg Zone is a single act as well.
• Sonic Mania Plus Encore Mode: There's a playable single act Angel Island Zone before Green Hill.

 

[Jozaca]

Some needed corrections for the classic era.

• Sonic 1 (16 bits): Final Zone is a single act.
• Sonic CD: There are no Good and Bad Present zones, just Present. Each Zone 3 also has a Bad Future version.
• Sonic 2 (16 bits): Death Egg Zone is a single act as well.
• Sonic Mania Plus Encore Mode: There's a playable single act Angel Island Zone before Green Hill.

#1, #3 and #4 done (I also missed Metropolis Zone having 3 acts and Wing Fortress Zone having also 1 act).
About #2, I know that in gameplay nothing changes, but for timeline purposes, technically, when you go back to the present after changing the past you are in a different timeline, even if the effects are not noticed until travelling to the future. I also assumed that the good ending is canon and that is why I put only the good future versions of the Act 3, since they are mutually exclusive with the bad future, although you can reach the good ending without having the good future in all areas (right?), but whatever.

 

[Megatron]

This guy used real life years to date the series, IDK if it could help you

https://www.sonicstadium.org/forums/topic/24998-a-sonic-timeline/

 

[Jozaca]

This guy used real life years to date the series, IDK if it could help you

https://www.sonicstadium.org/forums/topic/24998-a-sonic-timeline/

That reminds me that I have a lot of things to add.

 

[Megatron]

sonic crossroads showed!

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

That reminds me that I have a lot of things to add.

Hey, dunno when you'll be back, but can't wait to see what updates you have for the timeline.

 

[Jozaca]

Hello all. I am back (one day late). Woah, the site has changed a little bit.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Hello all. I am back (one day late). Woah, the site has changed a little bit.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Sonic Comic Chapter 24, "Act: 024 - Hide-and-seek" (In your first time you should read after Sonic Adventure) (Link)

Curious, but is there a translated version of these comics?

 

[Jozaca]

Curious, but is there a translated version of these comics?

According to the Sonic Wiki, they were released in English with two toys in the USA.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

According to the Sonic Wiki, they were released in English with two toys in the USA.

Ah. Surely, someone's archived the English versions, r-right?

 

[animalia555]

I have heard that the Timeline placement of Tails Adventure has been retconned. Can anyone confirm this?

 

[user 16960]

I have heard that the Timeline placement of Tails Adventure has been retconned. Can anyone confirm this?

Yeah Ian Flynn has said this. It's because Sega wants Sonic Origins to be the true beginning of the Sonic timeline, no games go in-between the origins quadrilogy or before it now. So tails adventure got moved, tails also learns to fly in origins in the cutscenes which means tails adventure has to happen later