Captain Canuck
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I have to ask what the flying **** is up with disney's merchandising department? Let me explain. My little nephew and niece saw episode VII and loved it. So today they went out with me to spend their christmas money. They BOTH wanted EVERY character from episode VII and regardless of if I like them, I was determined to find them the ones they didn't get for christmas.
They found :
Finn, Chewie and move (including a luke who was in the film all of 5 seconds) and ..... there is no Rey. So i looked online when we got back and ... yeah she's not just sold out. I found this :
http://www.shewired.com/outrageous/...s-outrage-exclusion-lead-female-character-rey
WHAT? how does that make sense? I know some would argue "Well boys dont want to play with girl characters" But they do my nephew wants a rey. When I was growing up you know what the hot **** ?
http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=48577078
Wait a minute that has the pink and yellow ranger on it! NOOOooooooooo I'll grow up wrong. Oh wait no i turned out fine. Why is Disney insisting on No rey , no Black Widow and more?
Now I know disney defenders will defend it and say **** you if you do as that doesn't help kids like my nephew or niece, As you can tell I'm pissed. Not just because of this but the fact everyone seems ok with it and I am left in that weird position of been pissed I can't buy a character I hate. I was just going to creare a **** disney thread but i thought it fit better here
They found :
Finn, Chewie and move (including a luke who was in the film all of 5 seconds) and ..... there is no Rey. So i looked online when we got back and ... yeah she's not just sold out. I found this :
http://www.shewired.com/outrageous/...s-outrage-exclusion-lead-female-character-rey
WHAT? how does that make sense? I know some would argue "Well boys dont want to play with girl characters" But they do my nephew wants a rey. When I was growing up you know what the hot **** ?
http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=48577078
Wait a minute that has the pink and yellow ranger on it! NOOOooooooooo I'll grow up wrong. Oh wait no i turned out fine. Why is Disney insisting on No rey , no Black Widow and more?
Now I know disney defenders will defend it and say **** you if you do as that doesn't help kids like my nephew or niece, As you can tell I'm pissed. Not just because of this but the fact everyone seems ok with it and I am left in that weird position of been pissed I can't buy a character I hate. I was just going to creare a **** disney thread but i thought it fit better here
DIrishB
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I had same problem trying to find a Rey figure for my niece. Had to spend four times its price on eBay. Sigh.
But it's ultimately the toy maker calling the shots on the figure assortment and allotment, so the blame lies with Hasbro. They did the same thing with Avengers and excluding Black Widow, but the Rey thing is ten times worse since she's the MAIN character of the film.
I assure you, not everyone is ok with this, hence the huge backlash (like the article you posted) online and on social media about this issue.
It's not DISNEY, it's Hasbro.
I'm not sure on that as Hasbro use to loads of female toys under Lucas, Hell i own loads of Padme , Leia , Mara Jade and Asajj Ventress figures PLUS Hasbro don't make clothes and most dont have her on (i say most as I've not seen any but dont want to assume) also lets not forget they did this to http://www.msnbc.com/sites/msnbc/files/2013/05/send-bryan.jpg
Also this year hasbro on their side heavily pushed this
http://news.tfw2005.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2015/07/Victorion1.jpg
an all female transformer combiner called victorion
To me it's obvious is Disney BUT its only one section. As movies + tv (though we needed black widow movie) say one thing BUT toys , t-shirts, lunchbags ect... all say another. Hasbro does NOT make the clothes , the lunch bags and more they do the toys. So the blame is with some part of disney it has to be.
DIrishB
The Timeline Guy
I'm not saying Hasbro doesn't occasionally release female action figures, I'm just saying they do so poorly, as evidenced by the conversation we're having about it.
I never said they don't release female action figures, just that they dropped the ball here.
It ultimately is he decision of the company making the products which products they make, not Disney. While the IP is licensed from Disney, the ones who make decisions about the line up for the action figure waves are Hasbro themselves.
The other merchandise featuring a dearth of Rey or other female characters like Black Widow on MCU stuff is likely due to the same misguided assumption that only boys are interested in Star Wars stuff.
I seriously doubt Disney is going to make and market a Star Wars film with a female as lead character and then intentionally not merchandise that female main character. That seems illogical. It's likely the merchandise makers calling those shots.
I never said they don't release female action figures, just that they dropped the ball here.
It ultimately is he decision of the company making the products which products they make, not Disney. While the IP is licensed from Disney, the ones who make decisions about the line up for the action figure waves are Hasbro themselves.
The other merchandise featuring a dearth of Rey or other female characters like Black Widow on MCU stuff is likely due to the same misguided assumption that only boys are interested in Star Wars stuff.
I seriously doubt Disney is going to make and market a Star Wars film with a female as lead character and then intentionally not merchandise that female main character. That seems illogical. It's likely the merchandise makers calling those shots.
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DIrishB
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http://www.mtv.com/news/2688307/female-star-wars-toys-selling-out/
So hopefully that means Series 2 waves will feature more Rey.
It COULD be due to the character being popular (as main character), which is encouraging, but I'm not sure that's actually the case. I do think Rey was short packed in the waves based on the abundance of male SW-TFA figures still gracing shelves.
So hopefully that means Series 2 waves will feature more Rey.
It COULD be due to the character being popular (as main character), which is encouraging, but I'm not sure that's actually the case. I do think Rey was short packed in the waves based on the abundance of male SW-TFA figures still gracing shelves.
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That's sort of true but not entirely, like I said it's the same on t-shirts ect... and theres been a notable decline of them since. Plus they do have a say that's why there's no FF or xmen movie toys or why characters deleted make it but rey never. They have licence BUT they can't just make anything they have to run it by them first. Also i was saying the number has declined since it can't be a coincidence
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Maybe , maybe not as it's odd they would ALL do the same thing. Plus disney makes some odd choices in marketing / merchandising ect.. like a friend of mine today said he was not going to see the force awakens because he';; just stick to the episodes not the spin offs. As here at least posters , trailers ect... it's all "Star wars the force awakens" like it's ashamed to call it's self "episode VII" which is it's big draw IMO
It seems likely someone in disney would say something like "Boys dont want girls on their stuff. remove them and we'll sell more" Is it 100% likely to be their fault? no but I think it's most likely I mean look at Infinity, Black widow + Gamora + Jesse were all starter characters in their playsets of Avengers/Guardians/toy story. Because they feel they wont sell. Spider-man toys no White Tiger shes a summon disk! and black cat! meaning the two females in spider-man = no toy. Those are 100% on Disney's gaming division on who to include and how.
So yeah I think it's part of disney NOT the whole thing as they do seem to be at odds. Like Marvel movies + marvel tv departments now seem to have fallen out ect..
However who ever's fault it was as we can't say 100% It's wrong and needs to change soon
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DIrishB
The Timeline Guy
Again, it's the merchandiser who decides on designs/character focuses/etc for the various stuff.
Not really. It clearly shows Episode VII on the opening crawl. I think Disney just isn't leaning as heavily on the Episode number in marketing because they want each film to have more of an individual identity. I don't agree with that decision, but I can understand it.
Well Hasbro has already said they'll be increasing Rey in next waves. Apparently she was packed equally in boxes, so that would indicate she's just selling very well and can't be found on store shelves. We'll see.
Yeah hasbro are good they took action,
Now if t-shirts (like the one that replaced Leia with luke or no black widow on avengers one ect.... learn and the rest of disney's marketing it'll be good
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Which figures were you looking for? There is a 3.75" Rey out and another with a lightsaber coming soon. There is also an Infinity figure.
I was looking in my local toys r us and they had none and I asked to check they had no listed as been in. Then i looked online and you see the link. Infinity figure doesn't count as that just basically DLC. It was just shocking is all lucyily as mentioned in this thread by another hasbro said they are releasing more.
But yeah you listed 1 out 1 not out 1 dlc , that means 1 out and even then not sure if released here yet. Yet there is alot of figures of the darth vader cosplayer from same movie and hes on loads of stuff.
DIrishB
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Yeah Rey was sold out completely near me too. I can believe that they released equal amounts of the Rey figure and they sold out due to her being main character, but even the multi-pack sets (3-5 figures) don't feature a single Rey. Meanwhile there are plenty of peg warmers of random characters.
Looking forward to them releasing the next wave. Really want to get Rey w/ lightsaber for my neice without having to pay 4 times its retail value.
Looking forward to them releasing the next wave. Really want to get Rey w/ lightsaber for my neice without having to pay 4 times its retail value.
Yeah Rey was sold out completely near me too. I can believe that they released equal amounts of the Rey figure and they sold out due to her being main character, but even the multi-pack sets (3-5 figures) don't feature a single Rey. Meanwhile there are plenty of peg warmers of random characters.
Looking forward to them releasing the next wave. Really want to get Rey w/ lightsaber for my neice without having to pay 4 times its retail value.
not sure they did release equal either. As like i said my local toysrus didn't have her listed.
Now my local "entertainer" (another shop here i know some who works there) they got 5 of her that's it! as I phoned my friend to get one kept. some sources in usa are saying she was limited release. Not unheard of for certain toys as they can do the "sold out" at it further ups demand
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wyokid
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Pinn , It's not hard
But they are foes. Foes to Rey's love!
There isn't one of her in the larger size (not sure what that line is called) but those are garbage anyway.
I don't know if there is a Black Series of her but I can't find those anywhere either way.
Turns out there are quite a few Rey figures. They're just really hard to find because everyone wants them.
But again it's not JUST single toys I mean http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/257.jpg Why? http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/29/02/2FA8D81E00000578-3377010-image-m-41_1451357344549.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015...pack_of_Star_Wars_bein-a-53_1451357791501.jpg Why is not allowed in packs with boy characters
It reminds me of this http://www.geekshirtshq.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Avengers-Movie-T-Shirt.jpg?fe9113 where the hell is black widow?
I don't know to me it's dumb and clearly gives a "boys and girls can not play together" message I hate
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