Ultimate Marvel Team-ups

[Ice]

How was he mentioned? It better not be something like...

"There's an OWL in that tree!"

:roll:

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

In Teamup # 7, Murdock is the the lawyer for this cop, one of the same cops that Frank Castle is going after... When the cops tells the story as to why Frank Castle was targeted and his family was accidently killed, he mentions that it was because Castle was a good cop who disagreed with the acts of corruption his fellow cops were doing. He also said that it all began with the bad cops making deals with "The Owl", who was making deals with cops who "went the extra mile"

Nothing big but it put a smile on my face...

 

[big danny d]

the only thing i can say towards the whole iron man meeting with latveria prime minister and doom (and remember just because hes a kid doesnt mean he cant become a dictator, and once thats done im sure its not too hard to set up an entire government, plus he was wealthy and had means in the f4) is this.

In Ultimate Team Up tony says he wont sell the information over to anyone, and at the end of that issue even fury says that the US wants the tech. Now take this into consideration. (Just a theory) Stark is a multi billionare in the ultimates, not a soilder, he doesn't need the job with them hes doing it to do something with his life before he dies. In fact, if anyone is benefiting from having him on the team for his armor and celebrity status, its shield and fury. Just to point out, Nick Fury isnt the nicest guy in the world, we all just sorta grew to love him, think about that one for a second.

Now what my theory is in putting the UMTU with the continuity is this,
First consider Hank Pym might have hit something on the head. He mentioned The eccentric super heros and playboys are paving the way for super soilder grunts. Shield wants pyms Ultron design, and why has Banner REALLY been kept alive? Because he was one of the team? or for the sole purpose of getting more science out of him, i mean when the public came screaming for the hulks death, fury had no problem giving him up.
Also, Fury has access to examining the iron man tech before each mission to make sure the suits up to par (but lets say they are really examinging the suit) Maybe Stark catches wind of this and why he was REALLY invited to join the ultimates, (so the us gov. could steal the tech right out from under him) He quits, within a year or 2 UMTU occurs.

Like i said its just a theory, and its the best explanation i can offer to that team up issue, and the only thing i can really add to that is that in regulare marvel continuity i believe WAR MACHINE was a us government run program using the ironman technology


of course then u have to take each issue of UMTU as entirely seperate and not being continuous within itself which can be silly to some people

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

(Just a theory) Stark is a multi billionare in the ultimates, not a soilder, he doesn't need the job with them hes doing it to do something with his life before he dies. In fact, if anyone is benefiting from having him on the team for his armor and celebrity status, its shield and fury. Just to point out, Nick Fury isnt the nicest guy in the world, we all just sorta grew to love him, think about that one for a second.

Isn't that what Stark said was his reason for joining the team in the first arc? Or was it the second? Oh well, Ultiamtes 1 somewhere at dinner with Thor and Capn'. I thought he freely gave the tech to S.H.I.E.L.D.?

 

[Friday]

I've yet to read the first few issues, can't seem to find the V1 TPB or the Hardcover (Anyone can help me on that please PM me), but I enjoyed what I saw. The FF issue is out of continuity, plain and simple, but keeping that in mind is a fun read, just don't take it seriously.

THe insequential issuing isn't a bad idea BDD, some issues have obviously already happened (Lizard, Widow, Hulk), but if things fit better shipped around then there's really no reason for it not to be.

Edit: And I really liked the X-Men in the mall issue. Might just be me, but I thought it was good.

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

The FF issue is out of continuity, plain and simple, but keeping that in mind is a fun read, just don't take it seriously.

Can I disagree with you Baxter? I seriously think something wrong happened at Marvel. I don't know why they put this out. It was terrible not even fun/funny.

Edit: And I really liked the X-Men in the mall issue. Might just be me, but I thought it was good.

No it's not, I liked it too.

 

[E]

Interesting theory big danny...

 

[Guijllons]

I think the only decent one was the FF team-up. It was amusing.
The rest were pretty pedestrian, and all wrong for the Ultimate continuity. Not necessarily bad books, just not worth it, average writing, average art.

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

I think the only decent one was the FF team-up. It was amusing.
The rest were pretty pedestrian, and all wrong for the Ultimate continuity. Not necessarily bad books, just not worth it, average writing, average art.

:shock:

 

[Nick MB]

I nearly died laughing reading the Ultimate Team Up issue with the FF... Utterly hillarious. Obviously not in continuity at all, but who cares. The others were a little up and down... Highlights were the Mall X-Men issue, the Punisher/DD three parter and maybe the Hulk one. The Super Special was also great. If nothing else, it was some good Marvel exposure for some great artists.

 

[Fredrik Martinsson]

I nearly died laughing reading the Ultimate Team Up issue with the FF... Utterly hillarious. Obviously not in continuity at all, but who cares. The others were a little up and down... Highlights were the Mall X-Men issue, the Punisher/DD three parter and maybe the Hulk one. The Super Special was also great. If nothing else, it was some good Marvel exposure for some great artists.

Welcome to the site

 

[Caduceus]

Welcome! Now thats out of the way

If nothing else, it was some good Marvel exposure for some great artists.

Are you serious?!?!? The art was terrible. I don't think I've seen a worse drawn comic in my life!


Once again, welcome

 

[Ice]

I nearly died laughing reading the Ultimate Team Up issue with the FF... Utterly hillarious. Obviously not in continuity at all, but who cares. The others were a little up and down... Highlights were the Mall X-Men issue, the Punisher/DD three parter and maybe the Hulk one. The Super Special was also great. If nothing else, it was some good Marvel exposure for some great artists.

Welcome!

*In Russian voice* I must see this art that you speak of so highly...

lol

 

[Seldes Katne]

I've yet to read the first few issues, can't seem to find the V1 TPB or the Hardcover (Anyone can help me on that please PM me), but I enjoyed what I saw. The FF issue is out of continuity, plain and simple, but keeping that in mind is a fun read, just don't take it seriously.

I thought the FF issue was too over-the-top for my taste, but the one thing I did laugh at was how Reed Richards reminded me of my father -- he's convinced he can and should fix everything that doesn't work. ("It's broken." "I can fix this!" "No, we can buy a new one for less than $10." "No, no, I can fix this!" "It would be easier to just get a new one!" "No, no, I know I can fix this!" :lol: )

Both the hardcover and Volume 1 of the trades are difficult to get now. I managed to find TPB Volume 1 online, but right now I don't see it listed at any of the places I usually get used books:

www.bn.com

www.alibris.com

www.abebooks.com

www.amazon.com

One of the other problems I ran into buying them is that sellers don't always list the volume numbers correctly (or at all, in some cases), so I ended up with two copies of Volume 2 before I finally found Volume 1. The Volume 1 TPB has a publishing date of 2001, Volume 2 was published in 2002, and Volume 3 in 2003. (Convenient, eh?) The Hardcover has a 2002 publication date as well. All the books have different ISBNs (International Standard Book Numbers), so that's another way of telling which volume is being offered.

I tend not to treat the stories in the UMTU as continuity until something shows up in the regular UU titles to verify them. Did anyone else notice that Tony Stark's eyes are brown in issue 3 of UMTU, and blue in The Ultimates? :? And I found Ben Urich's "Magical Disappearing Wristwatch" in the Hulk issue to be rather amusing as well....

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

Did anyone read the UXM super special? and is there an Ultimaes Super special and what merits a super special?

 

[Guijllons]

there was an UXM super special? I though the only one was the spidey one. And the superspecials are their own line i think. the spidey one being #01

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

there was an UXM super special? I though the only one was the spidey one. 1

Nope there's a UXM: SS. It takes place right after Magneto "dies" in The Tomorrow People arc, as Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are running away. Some of the X-Men offer them to join but they refuse. Ultimate Quicksilver has an Avatar that looks a lot like what's mentioned to be the last scene.

 

[Fredrik Martinsson]

Nope there's a UXM: SS. It takes place right after Magneto "dies" in The Tomorrow People arc, as Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are running away. Some of the X-Men offer them to join but they refuse. Ultimate Quicksilver has an Avatar that looks a lot like what's mentioned to be the last scene.

That sound very much like Ultimate X-Men ½ :?
Are you sure it's not that one you mean?

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

That sound very much like Ultimate X-Men ½ :?
Are you sure it's not that one you mean?

I thought I got it from the UncannyXmen site. I'm pretty sure it said superspecial.

 

[Fredrik Martinsson]

I thought I got it from the UncannyXmen site. I'm pretty sure it said superspecial.

This one? http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1091

 

[Guijllons]

ah, yeah, I thought that was a wizard thing.

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

This one? http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1091

Yeah, that's it ok not superspecial but 1/2 isn't the USM one of these too?

 

[Fredrik Martinsson]

Yeah, that's it ok not superspecial but 1/2 isn't the USM one of these too?

Yeah, it stared Ultimate Iron Fist and had some sketches in it (including MJ in a tiny swimsuit ).

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

Yeah, it stared Ultimate Iron Fist and had some sketches in it (including MJ in a tiny swimsuit ).

Just a little more info, sir, please? lease:

 

[Nick MB]

The USM 1/2 contained a sixteen page new story by Bendis/Bagley and a few sketches. I don't own the actual thing, but I have the story reprinted in the USM Volume 3 hardcover. It's not bad. I wouldn't rush out and pay millions on eBay for it, but it has some nice moments with Ultimate JJJ.

And (to track back to my last comment) altho obviously the art on UMTU was very changable because of the rotating creators, there were some good ones. Mahfood's art on the FF issue, altho you wouldn't want him on a regular 'serious' Spidey title, was perfect for that joke story, hence why he's now drawing the comedy What If issue. The art in the DD/Punisher art was note perfect, and Phil Hester drew a fantastic Hulk in #2-3. Honourable mentions to Allred on the Iron Man two parter, Clugston-Major on the X-Men one and Moore on Black Widow. I admit I wasn't loving the pictures by Ted McKeever in the Dr Strange story though, and issue one's Matt Wagner art just didn't quite work.

Ooh, and I almost forgot to rave about the rotating artists in the super-special! I honestly can't remember who drew what, but they were all pretty stunning, and the story was good too. Which was nice, as I felt UMTU tailed off a bit creatively in the last five or six issues.

 

[Fredrik Martinsson]

Just a little more info, sir, please? lease:

OK. I will do my best.

It starts in the office of the Daily Bugle with Jameson holding up a picture of Spider-Man beating up a guy and it looks like he also beats up an elderly woman. We then get the full story from Ben Urich that reads from the police report. The woman had shoplifted a pair of sneakers from a store and get cought when she walks out on the streets. She screams that she is pregnant and a big guy shows up to help the woman from the store employee. From nowhere a blond young guy appears and "suggests" that he get his hand off the man. A fight between the big man and the youngster starts, in which the man gets his ass kicked with a few simple moves. When he still don't give up the young guy powers up his right hand (his hand looks like its on flames) and the guy gets scared thinking he is a mutant.
Before the young Iron Fist (well duh) can do anything, Spider-Man swings down knocking him out.
The next scene showing the cops rounding up the involved people and interigating the young Iron Fist and we get to know his name is Danny Rand.
The rest of the issue takes place in the Daily Bugle office Jameson and the rest of the staff is discussing if they should run the story to discriminate Spider-Man or not (the only one that argues in Spider-Mans favour is Ben Urich that has got an witness report from Spider-Man himself).
Everybody leaves Jamesons office and he locks at the picture and smiles. The end words comes from Jameson "Run it. It's good art."

The last pages showes sketches from Mark Bagley including Green Goblin, Gwen Stacy, Spider-Man, Electro, Kingpin in a real super villain outfit , some woman (can be Elektra or Black Cat), another woman in a black dress, Rhino (616 version), Kraven and on the last page some sketches of Peter and (stand alone) MJ in a tiny swimsuit with the text "Man, M.J. is like 15. I'm such a perv".

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

OK. I will do my best.

It starts in the office of the Daily Bugle with Jameson holding up a picture of Spider-Man beating up a guy and it looks like he also beats up an elderly woman. We then get the full story from Ben Urich that reads from the police report. The woman had shoplifted a pair of sneakers from a store and get cought when she walks out on the streets. She screams that she is pregnant and a big guy shows up to help the woman from the store employee. From nowhere a blond young guy appears and "suggests" that he get his hand off the man. A fight between the big man and the youngster starts, in which the man gets his ass kicked with a few simple moves. When he still don't give up the young guy powers up his right hand (his hand looks like its on flames) and the guy gets scared thinking he is a mutant.
Before the young Iron Fist (well duh) can do anything, Spider-Man swings down knocking him out.
The next scene showing the cops rounding up the involved people and interigating the young Iron Fist and we get to know his name is Danny Rand.
The rest of the issue takes place in the Daily Bugle office Jameson and the rest of the staff is discussing if they should run the story to discriminate Spider-Man or not (the only one that argues in Spider-Mans favour is Ben Urich that has got an witness report from Spider-Man himself).
Everybody leaves Jamesons office and he locks at the picture and smiles. The end words comes from Jameson "Run it. It's good art."

The last pages showes sketches from Mark Bagley including Green Goblin, Gwen Stacy, Spider-Man, Electro, Kingpin in a real super villain outfit , some woman (can be Elektra or Black Cat), another woman in a black dress, Rhino (616 version), Kraven and on the last page some sketches of Peter and (stand alone) MJ in a tiny swimsuit with the text "Man, M.J. is like 15. I'm such a perv".

Cool, I'll try to look for it, along with UXM 1/2

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

Also did anyone who read The Daredevil/Punisher/Spiderman issues notice that when Ultimate Karen Page appeared she wasn't a blonde... :?

 

[Friday]

Also did anyone who read The Daredevil/Punisher/Spiderman issues notice that when Ultimate Karen Page appeared she wasn't a blonde... :?

....need ...hardcover.....

Why did they not reprint those issues in the sofcovers? I mean come on!

 

[TheManWithoutFear]

....need ...hardcover.....

Why did they not reprint those issues in the sofcovers? I mean come on!

Yea, the individual issues is really screwin' up the whole TPB thing I have going...