What's the worst thing to happen to/in comics?

[E]

I don't think it's a consequence so much as it's symptomatic of that line of thinking. Marvel had been rapidly sinking because of endless crossovers and a policy of flash over substance. Heroes Reborn is just a capstone to that line of thinking, that the way to patch the ship is to sink all their major franchises into this sort of cheap ploy.

I don't think you can remove the whole 90's implosion from the equation, simply because it is the worst thing to happen to comics in the recentish past. If anything, serving as the low watermark of the nineties implosion makes it all the more meaningful a disaster.

I agree with you (almost) completely, I'm just saying that all of that crapiness that happened in the 90s including the train of thought you referenced was due to the Perelman disaster. He caused all of it, directly and indirectly. You can't really say Heroes Reborn or even the thinking behind it was the worst thing to happen without examining what caused it - policies put in place by Perelman.

I misspoke in that last post you quoted - I said the Marvel bankruptcy and I didn't mean the bankruptcy, I meant the event that ultimately caused the bankruptcy, which was Perelman's ownership and destruction.

 

[selfproclaimed]

the other worst thing was when my dad accidently threw out my comics collection as a kid along with all of my baseball cards one day. that sucked.

 

[Bass]

i'm afraid that if i voted for anything other than loeb i will get banned. but seriously, loeb is pretty not great.

You almost got banned just for almost not voting for Loeb.

I'm surprised Rob Liefeld isn't on it.

Liefeld is kinda part of the "90s" and since that's not an option, we all must vote for Loeb.

 

[Ice]

I did I would add on, but you guys don't read. So final option is Other. Have fun!

 

[Captain Canuck]

So i just found out that Jeph Loeb wrote Superman for a while. Did anyone read it? How was it?

 

[E]

So i just found out that Jeph Loeb wrote Superman for a while. Did anyone read it? How was it?

I didn't, but I did read Hush and the Marvel "color stories" (Spider-Man: Blue, etc.). I didnt' think they were bad at all, even if the color stories were just retellings. So he's not completely terrible (or at least hasn't always been).

 

[Bass]

I found it boring. Art was nice though.

 

[Captain Canuck]

I didn't, but I did read Hush and the Marvel "color stories" (Spider-Man: Blue, etc.). I didnt' think they were bad at all, even if the color stories were just retellings. So he's not completely terrible (or at least hasn't always been).

Spider-Man Blue is one of my favourite tpbs ever!

Daredevil Yellow was pretty much the same story though...

 

[The Overlord]

I found it boring. Art was nice though.

But that's the worst thing you say about that story, at best it was good, but not great and at worst it was mediocre, most of Loeb's stuff before the death of his son wasn't offensively bad. Its kinda sad.

 

[E]

Spider-Man Blue is one of my favourite tpbs ever!

I liked Hulk: Gray better but yeah, it was pretty good. Daredevil: Yellow was probably the weakest one.

 

[Bass]

But that's the worst thing you say about that story, at best it was good, but not great and at worst it was mediocre, most of Loeb's stuff before the death of his son wasn't offensively bad. Its kinda sad.

That's very true. :/

 

[thee great one]

I don't know how you guys vote for Jeph Loeb as the worse thing to happen to comics. There has been bad writers since comics started and there always will. Editorial interference, retcons, outrageous price increases, character over-saturation, event fatigue. That is what is killing comics.

 

[Ice]

Of course there's been bad writers and will always be around, but that's not the point. It's more of what they've done that's been bad than them just being around. Though you are right about editorial interference and etc. being a major thing. Not sure about 'killing comics', but it's a definite good point.

 

[ProjectX2]

I don't know how you guys vote for Jeph Loeb as the worse thing to happen to comics. There has been bad writers since comics started and there always will. Editorial interference, retcons, outrageous price increases, character over-saturation, event fatigue. That is what is killing comics.

He killed an entire universe. Who else has done that?

 

[J. Agamemnon]

He killed an entire universe. Who else has done that?

Thanos.

 

[ProjectX2]

Thanos.

If he was in the poll, I would have voted for him.

 

[J. Agamemnon]

actually nevermind, it was half the universe.

 

[Ice]

actually nevermind, it was half the universe.

So he just half-***ed the work. Nice. :noway:

 

[J. Agamemnon]

So he just half-***ed the work. Nice. :noway:

well, to be fair he wanted to impress a chick.

 

[Captain Canuck]

well, to be fair he wanted to impress a chick.

are we talking about Thanos or Loeb?

 

[J. Agamemnon]

are we talking about Thanos or Loeb?

I don't even know anymore.

 

[Ultimate Fried]

you forgot to put in the end of a Bendis run as an option.

 

[Planet-man]

In all seriousness:

Other.

 

[Bass]

Poor Robin.

 

[ProjectX2]

But then we wouldn't have had Nightwing or Jason Todd or Tim Drake or the Teen Titans or any of the Batgirls.

 

[Planet-man]

But then we wouldn't have had Nightwing or Jason Todd or Tim Drake or the Teen Titans or any of the Batgirls.

 

[ProjectX2]

I choose DSF! Fight!