Ice
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#5 revealsa the TRUE Summers brother. The cover also shows the villain in his entirety. Though I still don't know who he is.
X-Men: Deadly Genesis (Discussion Spoilers)
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Ice
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I think it *might* be better handled with Brubaker than Claremont. And hey, it could still be a ploy, you never know.
Shihad
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My friend after borrowing my Marvel Masterpiece trade, with the Giant Size issue in it (which is where deadly genesis, kinda follows from), rang me today and told me that there a guy in the shadows after cyclops escapes (after losing his powers, which what has happened in issue 2)
I can't confirm this til i get my book back.... but i thought someone else might have the issue... and confirm this?
I can't confirm this til i get my book back.... but i thought someone else might have the issue... and confirm this?
roguefan
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Nope, I can't see it.
The villain is Krakoa I think. After all, in the latest issue Cyclops loses his powers, and that happened while Cyke was on Krakoa in Giant Size X-Men #1.
The villain is Krakoa I think. After all, in the latest issue Cyclops loses his powers, and that happened while Cyke was on Krakoa in Giant Size X-Men #1.
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Shihad
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roguefan said:
yeah but krakoa is a island tho???........ i think its a bit much.... for a island to change into a human/mutant with strong as powers..... i'm goin to get the trade back.... i didn't think he would lie about the guy in the shadow?
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Personally, I think the Krakoa island/mutant turns into person/mutant is idiocy.
The island of Krakoa is/was a mutant island, therefore would losing its powers not turn it into a massive (sentient?) rock?How would the turn to a humanoid come about?Also, Krakoa would know Wolverine.
The X-Men 1.5 team makes the most sense, and at the end of Darwin's back-up it says a woman is waiting for him-Moira gathered the team for Charley?I'm nearly positive this is what happened,the only question I have is whether or not the team was assembled purely for the Krakoa mission, or whether they were a "black-ops" team the whole time and died during the mission?But then would Sage not have been part of it?Or could the originals have been sent in because they failed?
The island of Krakoa is/was a mutant island, therefore would losing its powers not turn it into a massive (sentient?) rock?How would the turn to a humanoid come about?Also, Krakoa would know Wolverine.
The X-Men 1.5 team makes the most sense, and at the end of Darwin's back-up it says a woman is waiting for him-Moira gathered the team for Charley?I'm nearly positive this is what happened,the only question I have is whether or not the team was assembled purely for the Krakoa mission, or whether they were a "black-ops" team the whole time and died during the mission?But then would Sage not have been part of it?Or could the originals have been sent in because they failed?
Ice
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That's exactly what I started to think, too, once I read the ending of the back-up.Patriot Mk2 said:
Also, due to the official ex-mutant list (you can find the thread in this forum), I'm suspecting that it *may* not be Banshee who dies. But maybe.....
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Full cover to X-Men: Deadly Genesis #4
Ice
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#3 (Of 6)
So #3's backstory plus that cover proves that whoever said about a second team was correct. Xavier did have another team. These kids. And all died except the one that's alive now. Krakoa was years ago, before the new millenia, hence the guy going "21st century?!" in the first issue. They were all recruited as "kids", so that's why during the issue itself, Moira said "they were only kids".
This is getting better and better. I :heart: Brubaker. His take on the X-Men is the ****!! I can't wait to have him on Uncanny.
Poor Banshee. May he rest in peace. :cry:
So #3's backstory plus that cover proves that whoever said about a second team was correct. Xavier did have another team. These kids. And all died except the one that's alive now. Krakoa was years ago, before the new millenia, hence the guy going "21st century?!" in the first issue. They were all recruited as "kids", so that's why during the issue itself, Moira said "they were only kids".
This is getting better and better. I :heart: Brubaker. His take on the X-Men is the ****!! I can't wait to have him on Uncanny.
Poor Banshee. May he rest in peace. :cry:
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yeah, that death was pretty unceremonious.
wolverine: oh, lookie who...
nightcrawler: oh, nein! well, let's get out of here.
that number 4 cover is super awesome, and pretty much affirms the 1.5 team theory. to be honest, i haven't been reading forums about this title, and when i read number 3 in the shop today, first thing i thought was "oh, there was a team before giant x-men 1, that actually makes perfect sense."
looking foward to it, just to see the fightening.
wolverine: oh, lookie who...
nightcrawler: oh, nein! well, let's get out of here.
that number 4 cover is super awesome, and pretty much affirms the 1.5 team theory. to be honest, i haven't been reading forums about this title, and when i read number 3 in the shop today, first thing i thought was "oh, there was a team before giant x-men 1, that actually makes perfect sense."
looking foward to it, just to see the fightening.
selfproclaimed
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the 1.5 team version would also support the cover to issue #6...it seems they are paying homage to the team that died before them
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Maybe.selfproclaimed said:
And also, I'm thinking that the last guy to be revealed, may in fact be the third Summers brother. From what Havok saw from the 'ghosts', Xavier knows. And I'm wondering what exactly was the 'ghosts' dinosaurs that were chasing Bobby, and where.
MaxwellSmart
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I haven't been reading X-Men comics that long, but, near as I can tell, the working theory is, before the X-Men were formed, Xavier had a team of mutant children. These children had been students of Moira MacTaggert(this part fits nicely with the existing timeline). The team was seemingly killed on a mission to save the X-Men on Krakoa. It was believed the team consisting of Banshee, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Storm, Sunfire, and Wolverine were the only team sent, but the X-Men 1.5 had also been sent and died on the mission. After the death of the X-Men 1.5, Xavier erased the memories of the team from the X-Mens' minds. This went as far as to erase the memory of Scott and Alex's other brother from their minds.
Okay, as for the issue I liked it. I'm not totally against the idea of a third summers brother, but it could easily be done terribly. What I found interesting about the memory involving Xavier and Major Summers was Scott was already a student of Xavier, but Xavier wasn't supposed to know his father. This could be about Major Summer's coming back, after he was supposed to have died in a plane crash, as a member of the starjammers. I found the phrase, "You might give the original some competition, after all,"
interesting. I'm not sure what it might mean. The uncovering of this secret team is interesting, but I'm not sure how this will result in the discover of where Xavier's been hiding.
Okay, as for the issue I liked it. I'm not totally against the idea of a third summers brother, but it could easily be done terribly. What I found interesting about the memory involving Xavier and Major Summers was Scott was already a student of Xavier, but Xavier wasn't supposed to know his father. This could be about Major Summer's coming back, after he was supposed to have died in a plane crash, as a member of the starjammers. I found the phrase, "You might give the original some competition, after all,"
interesting. I'm not sure what it might mean. The uncovering of this secret team is interesting, but I'm not sure how this will result in the discover of where Xavier's been hiding.
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icemastertron said:
the strips of clothe hanging from the crosses match with those in the uniforms worn by the mystery team as seen on #4's cover
Ice
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How could you not?! I figured it out with the backstory.UltimateE said:I read #3 today.
I haven't got the faintest idea what's going on.
The kids being introduced in the backstory are the team that was sent before Xavier went and recruited Banshee, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Storm and Colossus. As soon as you read the ending of the issue, and the ending of the back issue, BOOM! There's your answer. The villain of the story, was one of them. We haven't seen his backstory yet. And of course, you can figure out why.
And that's why he didn't know Wolverine, but he knew Cyclops. Because Cykes never went to Krakoa with the orginial X-Men, he would know about this team. Remember it was said that some X-Men would know about this dark secret. And that's why in the first issue he was like, "the 21st century?!". Krakoa was before the new millenia for them.
TheManWithoutFear
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Where's the thread with someone complaining about Krakoa and the events of HoM should've turned into into a pile of rocks?
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i wasn't aware krakoa wasn't a pile of rocks. wasn't it all the rocks that vulcan/summers/badguy/god woke up from?
but yeah, it is fairly apparent that there was a 1.5 team. consisting of the badguy and the characters in the 2nd stories. i'd like this, but it's moving too slow, and they killed off banshee rather unceremoniously.
also, a major complaint is how Xavier is turning into Ult. Xavier, while Ult. Xavier isn't nearly as douche-y as Millar made him.
but yeah, it is fairly apparent that there was a 1.5 team. consisting of the badguy and the characters in the 2nd stories. i'd like this, but it's moving too slow, and they killed off banshee rather unceremoniously.
also, a major complaint is how Xavier is turning into Ult. Xavier, while Ult. Xavier isn't nearly as douche-y as Millar made him.
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Ice
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To you of course. :wink:UltimateE said:
I can't get any books this week until next week.
Dr.Strangefate
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I give #4 a 4/5
Def a good read.
Def a good read.
TheManWithoutFear
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I don't give comics ratings without at least knowing someone explained what happened in the issue. :evil:
Dr.Strangefate
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Well I do, so there.
#5 out last week - I can't believe no X-Nerds posted about it.
The big event here was (dun dun dun DUN!) the return of Charles Xavier, who is 1) walking and 2) not a mutant anymore (or at least is no longer a telepath). It was not explained where he has been.
There was other stuff, of course, but this was the most important.
Thoughts?
The big event here was (dun dun dun DUN!) the return of Charles Xavier, who is 1) walking and 2) not a mutant anymore (or at least is no longer a telepath). It was not explained where he has been.
There was other stuff, of course, but this was the most important.
Thoughts?
