....that's like saying the Gregorian calendar in Marvel's 616 universe would become outdated because time there goes faster than the MCUs timeline and they both use the Gregorian calendar. Also one could argue Mario's Earth doesn't use the Gregorian calendar they could just use a visually similar one that could have a different origin than IRL earth, maybe it's year 0 is based off when the Pixl War occurred or something
Not entirely, in Paper Mario 1, they use montgs depicted as XO☆ symbols. Not thar I disagree with you, quite the opposite actually, just wanted to mention that there's a second calendar system aswell
Paper Mario is the only case where this does not happen, since they had no connection to Earth, and thus didn't adopt the Gregorian calendar. This is more evidence in my case
But besides the East Germany reference in F-1 Race, ehich has to take place the latest in 1990, there is no reason it couldn't line up
True yeah. Again I just think that Mario's Earth and Tour Earth have 2 different calendars, they could both be Gregorian but they both only apply to each universe as they run on different time dilation, like both are linear Mario's earth goes from 2000 to 2001 to 2002 etc, Tour Earth does too but every year that passes in Mario's world multiple years pass on Tour Earth. There's tons of Franchises where time speeds up depending on which dimension or universe you're in
Paper Mario also happens in the main Mario universe too though, remember what I said about Goomboss and stuff earlier?
Like, Spider-Man Noir takes place in the 1940s, and Spider verse happens in the 2010s, I don't think that means Spider-Man Noirs calendars are outdated, he just lives in a different universe where the time is a little different than other universes
616 and 199999 develop their Gregorian calendars separate to each other; they are their own calendars. They are not made to align with each other. It is well established that the two calendars do not align due to time dilation. The Gregorian calendars on Earth and the Mushroom World align with each other, so it is unreasonable to assume they don't. Furthermore, no time dilation occurs in Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 due to the millennium event still taking place, which only happens every 100 years for a few days at most. If no time dilation occurs here, why would you assume it occurs for the Mushroom World and Earth, under the basis that you want games to happen close together
The Noir Universe is perpetually the 1940s. Also, I'd prefer to not use franchises that use floating timelines to justify ignoring dates
Goomboss on the Mushroom World first appears in Mario 64 DS, a retelling of the original game. This wouldn't align with his date of creation in the Paper Universe. If it's established original characters have a different origin in the Paper Universe, why would you assume every original character other than Goomboss has the same origin, with the same events occuring to them?
Read Sean's timeline that Megatron linked, Paper Mario occurs before Super Mario 64, and remakes replace the originals in the timeline
I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree then, because I still think Tour Earth is in a separate dimension they travel to and runs on a different timeline
... based on the premise that the Paper universe events all occur in the Mushroom World (if that was the case, why even make them distinct universes?)
Agree to disagree, I guess
In paper jam they say the universes are identical I'm pretty sure, again they just wanted to combine both styles for a fun game it's not that complicated.
Yes, this isn't finished yet, I have quite a few games I still need to add
I've skimmed over it, I'll look more thoroughly into it when I have the time
Paper Jam states that many people are the same, though that this is the only similarity between the two. Gimmicks in the paper games are incompatible without Paper, so unless you're entirely changing the plot and motives of the games they shouldn't be assumed to be identical universes
Ehh, I mean they do the paper mechanic on regular Non-Paper Petey piranha in Paper Jam so idk. Plus in Mario & Luigi Luigi turns into a surfboard and stuff so it's not like it's out of the possibility for the non-paper versions of the characters to do weird morphing like that.
For example it mentions, according to Mario Maker, Mario Bros arcade leads directly into Super Mario Bros
Yeah sorry I just wanted to get all my thoughts out at once since I had been thinking about all of this for a few days before coming here
I thought rojinn showed it was stated in an official bio or something?
They recounted it, but didn't show any source. I initially didn't mind, but I couldn't find the quote anywhere so they could just be remembering wrong. Diddy Kong Racing released before Banjo-Kazooie, so they were just showing off the Banjo character since they already had the model (at least, that's the reason he was included) so they had no need to state he didn't come with Kazooie, or that they hadn't met, since Kazooie wasn't an established character. The reason DK Racing is where it is, is because the DS port features a matured Tiny Kong, which happens around the time of the placement
Btw I think for Conker you could technically count the remake as a separate event since Conker acknowledges in the first part of the game with the gargoyle that this has all happened before. Live and Reloaded also has a multiplayer mode set in the past and the future, the future one is set like 200 years in the future iirc? So it'd probably be the furthest thing in the future in your timeline. There's also Conker's Big Reunion which was part of the Project Spark video game. As well as Young Conker which was a game on the Microsoft eye thing or whatever it was called
