Fantastic Four Reboot
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Also agreed. The suit was terrible. I'm not sure if technology or whatever has progressed since the Fantastic Four movies enough to make something convincing, but I wouldn't count on it. Ideally a real person would be better, but with this particular character it has to be CGI.
Also agreed. The suit was terrible. I'm not sure if technology or whatever has progressed since the Fantastic Four movies enough to make something convincing, but I wouldn't count on it. Ideally a real person would be better, but with this particular character it has to be CGI.
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I have a feeling they're just going to make this movie 3D anyways.
I have a feeling they're just going to make this movie 3D anyways.
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Agreed on both counts.
Also, I pray they do better casting for Reed. Ioan Gruffudd was TERRIBLE.
Agreed on both counts.
Also, I pray they do better casting for Reed. Ioan Gruffudd was TERRIBLE.
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I had nothing against Chiklis as the Thing, I just didn't think his look was good at all. You guys have said that enough. I thought Chris Evans was great as Johnny, but Jessica Alba as Susan Storm was the worst casting of all.
I had nothing against Chiklis as the Thing, I just didn't think his look was good at all. You guys have said that enough. I thought Chris Evans was great as Johnny, but Jessica Alba as Susan Storm was the worst casting of all.
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Maybe that was part of Tim Story's apparent drive to make the FF blacker, with Kerry Washington as Alicia Masters, and an FF soundtrack CD (which I have, yes I'm that fanatically pro-FF) that's African American in musical style too.
Miscast as Jessica Alba was, she was better than Ioan Gruffudd as Mister Fantastic. No speculative race agenda there either, just bad, bad, lame, very much no good acting.
But bad as he was, director Tim Story was the worst. Nothing could be as bad as that, when you take into account all the wrong decisions ranging from Dr. Doom dressing like a tramp in the first movie to the crass Dodge product placement on the Fantasticar in the second movie.
And by "nothing could be worse" I mean except for the original score, which does nothing with the four elements, or the characters, including Dr. Doom who doesn't get his own theme or even a cue, or anything. It's just "here-comes- the-five-notes, and here-comes- the-five-notes, and here-comes- the-five-notes, and once-more-the-five-notes, and yet-more-the-five-notes, the-boring-old-five-notes, the-boring-old-five-notes..." repeating like a bad Saturday morning cartoon "theme".
Here's what I want.
Annihilus. And the N-Zone. I would quite like it to be Sunshine, except that instead of turning pathetic and like a weak echo of Event Horizon when Pinbacker shows up, if turns fantastic and awesome when we get an authentic big villain with an alternate reality that rocks.
Anyone who wants to direct this has to audition by making a five minute short, and if by about three minutes in there are no jaws dropping and nobody is looking freaked out, you are not the director for the FANTASTIC Four.
I think the right model for this is not Iron Man but the way Louis Leterrier did The Incredible Hulk: a great opening sequence to explain everything to newcomers and rush us into the action, and from then one jaw-droppingly cool thing we've never seen before after another. Here's this amazing favela, here's this completely out-there bottling plant, here's what may be the hottest girl in the world who you've never seen before, here's Rickson Gracie teaching our hero - it never stops. If five minutes go by and you were not wowed by something, the director is not doing it right.
How you justify this is not a problem that interest me much. A girl who looks like that can't get a job except in an unsafe bottling plant? Fine, just bring her on, and then something else amazing and then something else.
If you can make it smart and fantastic too, like Inception, that's a bonus. But the FANTASTIC is on the box, and it has to be in the box. I want at least 2 hours of WOW! in a 90-minute bag, straining every seam with the pressure of industrial-strength concentrated WOW!
And for music I want Craig Armstrong, or someone equally able and willing to get into it and take this up to 10.
Oh, and for ethnic agendas, there should only be three. Reed, Sue and Johnny should be pure whitebread WASP. Ben should be clearly Jewish. And great effort should be made to show that the alien, exotic culture of the foe actually is a complete and completely alien culture that we're only getting to see part of in this movie.
That's one area where thinking time will be rewarded, because it makes the FANTASTIC real by reassuring us that a trip into the villain's head is a trip into a whole 'nother universe. The villain can't be just some mundane person with a rubber suit.
Kate Bosworth is Sue Storm come to life, and a good enough actress as she proved as Lois Lane in Superman Returns (2006). I have read she was even up for the part, but didn't get it.
Maybe that was part of Tim Story's apparent drive to make the FF blacker, with Kerry Washington as Alicia Masters, and an FF soundtrack CD (which I have, yes I'm that fanatically pro-FF) that's African American in musical style too.
Miscast as Jessica Alba was, she was better than Ioan Gruffudd as Mister Fantastic. No speculative race agenda there either, just bad, bad, lame, very much no good acting.
But bad as he was, director Tim Story was the worst. Nothing could be as bad as that, when you take into account all the wrong decisions ranging from Dr. Doom dressing like a tramp in the first movie to the crass Dodge product placement on the Fantasticar in the second movie.
And by "nothing could be worse" I mean except for the original score, which does nothing with the four elements, or the characters, including Dr. Doom who doesn't get his own theme or even a cue, or anything. It's just "here-comes- the-five-notes, and here-comes- the-five-notes, and here-comes- the-five-notes, and once-more-the-five-notes, and yet-more-the-five-notes, the-boring-old-five-notes, the-boring-old-five-notes..." repeating like a bad Saturday morning cartoon "theme".
Here's what I want.
Annihilus. And the N-Zone. I would quite like it to be Sunshine, except that instead of turning pathetic and like a weak echo of Event Horizon when Pinbacker shows up, if turns fantastic and awesome when we get an authentic big villain with an alternate reality that rocks.
Anyone who wants to direct this has to audition by making a five minute short, and if by about three minutes in there are no jaws dropping and nobody is looking freaked out, you are not the director for the FANTASTIC Four.
I think the right model for this is not Iron Man but the way Louis Leterrier did The Incredible Hulk: a great opening sequence to explain everything to newcomers and rush us into the action, and from then one jaw-droppingly cool thing we've never seen before after another. Here's this amazing favela, here's this completely out-there bottling plant, here's what may be the hottest girl in the world who you've never seen before, here's Rickson Gracie teaching our hero - it never stops. If five minutes go by and you were not wowed by something, the director is not doing it right.
How you justify this is not a problem that interest me much. A girl who looks like that can't get a job except in an unsafe bottling plant? Fine, just bring her on, and then something else amazing and then something else.
If you can make it smart and fantastic too, like Inception, that's a bonus. But the FANTASTIC is on the box, and it has to be in the box. I want at least 2 hours of WOW! in a 90-minute bag, straining every seam with the pressure of industrial-strength concentrated WOW!
And for music I want Craig Armstrong, or someone equally able and willing to get into it and take this up to 10.
Oh, and for ethnic agendas, there should only be three. Reed, Sue and Johnny should be pure whitebread WASP. Ben should be clearly Jewish. And great effort should be made to show that the alien, exotic culture of the foe actually is a complete and completely alien culture that we're only getting to see part of in this movie.
That's one area where thinking time will be rewarded, because it makes the FANTASTIC real by reassuring us that a trip into the villain's head is a trip into a whole 'nother universe. The villain can't be just some mundane person with a rubber suit.
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David Blue, I like the way you think.
David Blue, I like the way you think.
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Thank you, Langsta.
Thank you, Langsta.
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Amber Heard Being Pursued for Fantastic Four Reboot.
Read more here: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=21757
Amber Heard Being Pursued for Fantastic Four Reboot.
Read more here: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=21757
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Adrien Brody and some other guy too.
http://movies.ign.com/articles/111/1115048p1.html
Adrien Brody and some other guy too.
http://movies.ign.com/articles/111/1115048p1.html
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Adrien Brody: yes. Other guy: no.
Amber Heard as Sue: no. She's incredibly attractive but she isn't Sue Storm. It would just be Jessica Alba all over again.
Adrien Brody: yes. Other guy: no.
Amber Heard as Sue: no. She's incredibly attractive but she isn't Sue Storm. It would just be Jessica Alba all over again.
Langsta
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Adrien Brody would be awesome as Reed.
I'd like for Sue to appear at least as intelligent as Reed. That's one thing I liked about the Ultimate comics: She was hot and smart. Sue has to be believably smart, not just a dumb bombshell in a blonde wig.
Adrien Brody would be awesome as Reed.
I'd like for Sue to appear at least as intelligent as Reed. That's one thing I liked about the Ultimate comics: She was hot and smart. Sue has to be believably smart, not just a dumb bombshell in a blonde wig.
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http://movies.ign.com/articles/111/1115714p1.html
I'd prefer Amber Heard, personally.
http://movies.ign.com/articles/111/1115714p1.html
I'd prefer Amber Heard, personally.
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Me too. Honestly, it's like they just pick a list of blonde actresses who are recent movies and go with it from there. It seems like that's how they cast people these days. I'm not saying that recent films aren't good casting calls, but Alice Eve is just a terrible choice.
Me too. Honestly, it's like they just pick a list of blonde actresses who are recent movies and go with it from there. It seems like that's how they cast people these days. I'm not saying that recent films aren't good casting calls, but Alice Eve is just a terrible choice.
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According to Comicbookmovie.com Fox want's Bruce Willis to voice the Thing.
read more here: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=22029
According to Comicbookmovie.com Fox want's Bruce Willis to voice the Thing.
read more here: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=22029
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I saw somewhere that Alice Eve is also in contention to play a villain in the Avengers movie. I guess Marvel really wants their hands on her.
I saw somewhere that Alice Eve is also in contention to play a villain in the Avengers movie. I guess Marvel really wants their hands on her.
