Final Crisis series discussion [spoilers]

mike3717 said:
The only thing I don't like about this event is that it doesn't seem to tie into the regular titles. Like, when is Final Crisis happening in relation to say R.I.P or New Krypton or what is happening in JSA or JLA now? Batman is still regular batman in FC and there hasn't been any mention of the new Kryptonians.

Other than that this event seems to be very epic and I am looking forward to seeing the new status quo in the DCU.
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I think morrison said he wanted to cut down on all the tie-ins. This is about a few months ahead of the rest of the DCU. The only non-final crisis tie-ins are things like the Darkside club being mentioned in teen titans storylines. And that' s more to do with build up.

I get annoyed that the Legion story and the REd LAntern issues don't really have anything to do with the main story here either. I think that they are set before the main story too, tho i'm not sure about the legion one.
 
Ninja4peace said:
I think morrison said he wanted to cut down on all the tie-ins. This is about a few months ahead of the rest of the DCU. The only non-final crisis tie-ins are things like the Darkside club being mentioned in teen titans storylines. And that' s more to do with build up.

I get annoyed that the Legion story and the REd LAntern issues don't really have anything to do with the main story here either. I think that they are set before the main story too, tho i'm not sure about the legion one.
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Yea but if it is a few months ahead of the rest of the DCU then we should see the after affects of current arcs like R.I.P, New Krypton and Gog reflected in FC. But they don't seem to be. At least not on any obvious level.

As for "tie-ins" that don't really "tie in". I am with you. Red Lanterns should be seperate. And what ever happend to the Superman tie in?
 
In the latest "20 questions with Dan Didio" on Newsarama he said that the Batman R.I.P storyline is directly connected to Final Crisis and the latest issue of the storyline is actually Final Crisis 6 or 7.

About the other story-lines that have the Final Crisis on them, some doesn't tie in AT ALL, they just put it on them to sell more copies, while others aren't directly connected (Legions of 3 worlds for example) is connected in the big picture but not directly. Think about FC as being played out on several places at ones, but only one (the main FC series) is the main battlefield.
 
Fredrik Martinsson said:
About the other story-lines that have the Final Crisis on them, some doesn't tie in AT ALL, they just put it on them to sell more copies, while others aren't directly connected (Legions of 3 worlds for example) is connected in the big picture but not directly. Think about FC as being played out on several places at ones, but only one (the main FC series) is the main battlefield.
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But is it right that - fom superman's PoV. There's new krypton thing then that's all wrapped up, and then there's the legion of 3 worlds, and then Final Crisis?

And in terms of the lantern thing that happened way before all the other crisis, and is pretty much an epilogue to sinestro corps war.
 
FINAL CRISIS: SECRET FILES was... different. It doesn't even seem to match the solicitation for it. It says Grant Morrison and Peter Tomasi wrote it though I'm pretty sure Morrison only wrote one page explaining what the Anti-Life Equation is and Tomasi wrote nothing. The whole main story was by some other guy and seemed to be a retelling of the original Libra story but with changes to fit it into FINAL CRISIS.

So... it was definitely odd. But a good read nonetheless.
 
I like the sketches.

The story leads me to believe that Libra will tip the scales back in favor of the heroes though.

Which would be a stupid ending.
 
I recently read the first five issues.

It actually makes some kind of sense when read like that.

I like the artwork and the central premise of someone like Turpin being a portal through which Darkseid appears isn't a bad idea.

However, the comic is, I think, severely hampered by its pathetic attempt to be inclusive of the entire DC universe. EARTH X, which was ludicrously epic in size and extremely nerdy, referencing all manner of bizarre parts of continuity, didn't try to incorporate vast elements of the Marvel Universe in its fourteen issues, instead, saving a lot of it for its sequels. FINAL CRISIS, on the other hand, not only has the heroes of Earth, but the New Gods, the Green Lantern Corps, and the Monitors of the 52 universes. It's just unwieldy in its size.

I think it would've been better served if the Green Lantern Corps (who are overrated) were not involved - Green Lantern, fine, but the entire Corps is too much. The same for the Monitors. I like the idea that gravity and time are warped by the 'incursion' of Darkseid into the material realm, but... there's so many bizarre plot lines and inconsistent realities all screaming for space... some breathing room would be nice.
 
Since it's alright to talk about spoilers,I heard that the ending might be a recon itself. Like it was all a dream and nothing happened..i.e DC did a "event" to get more money.
 
That's right - there was a lot of problems with the ending wasn't there? Morrison had to rewrite it.
 
Because if you add them TOGETHER, you get 12.

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waitaminute...

I actually would think it's to do with maximizing summer sales or some such.
 
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Bass said:
Because if you add them TOGETHER, you get 12.

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waitaminute...

I actually would think it's to do with maximizing summer sales or some such.
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Also I think that as a monthly think it would be tough for the company to keep interest for the event for a whole year
 
I think Joe Kalicki is referring to the fact that the original Crisis was good was because it had twelve issues to flesh out the idea more.

The last two have seemed rushed.
 
Ultimate Houde said:
I think Joe Kalicki is referring to the fact that the original Crisis was good was because it had twelve issues to flesh out the idea more.

The last two have seemed rushed.
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To be fair, the cast was much much bigger in the first crisis and this time around Morrison really seems to be focusing around a select few characters.
 
Ice said:
Is there some significance for there having to be 12 issues?
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Ultimate Houde said:
I think Joe Kalicki is referring to the fact that the original Crisis was good was because it had twelve issues to flesh out the idea more.

The last two have seemed rushed.
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Yeah, exactly.

Plus 7 issues just doesn't make sense in a dramatic structure, and that bothers me.
 
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