Mario Timeline

[Elly]

Nope, it was just this (I searched “Baseball” in the search bar and due to the lack of formatting there it looked like a separate entry)

Lol, but yeah it's a generic Baseball game like tennis NES, it just has a Mario cameo like tennis

 

[Elly]

Okay apparently there's Japanese material for WL4 that implies he travelled from the Frog game lands where he was working as a professor. The implication isn't in the English stuff. So I guess we'll have to check the Japanese manuals and stuff

 

[Elly]

Robot engineering authority, Honors Professor [at the] Masakachotto University Engineering Department. [He] heard the rumours of the Golden Pyramid [and] set off on his own expedition. His age is about 90 years old.

This is from the Wario Land 4 Japanese manual. The university name is from FFWTBT I think?

 

[Elly]

Robot engineering authority, Honors Professor [at the] Masakachotto University Engineering Department. [He] heard the rumours of the Golden Pyramid [and] set off on his own expedition. His age is about 90 years old.

This is from the Wario Land 4 Japanese manual. The university name is from FFWTBT I think?

Also since he's canonically only 90 and not centuries I think that this proves the Mad Sciencestein from Wario Land 3 is a different guy from the one in 4. In Japan they have different names I mentioned before

 

[stphylcccs]

Also since he's canonically only 90 and not centuries I think that this proves the Mad Sciencestein from Wario Land 3 is a different guy from the one in 4. In Japan they have different names I mentioned before

I always just assumed they didn’t age in the pocket dimension. Also, Scienstein could still be good during WL3, since all the enemies were changed to be evil (or something like that, idk). One could argue Scienstein is affected differently due to being human, so it changed his mind instead of just his body (and controlling him) which is why it took longer to become good again

 

[Elly]

I always just assumed they didn’t age in the pocket dimension. Also, Scienstein could still be good during WL3, since all the enemies were changed to be evil (or something like that, idk). One could argue Scienstein is affected differently due to being human, so it changed his mind instead of just his body (and controlling him) which is why it took longer to become good again

He's also evil in Dr Mario 64 though. I feel like it's more likely they're separate characters. I posted above how their names in Japan are different, their designs are a bit different as well

 

[stphylcccs]

He's also evil in Dr Mario 64 though

I thought Dr 64 was when he was shown to be good? Anyway, the game could just happen between Wario Land 3 and 4.

I know I’m shifting a lot of stuff around based on a relatively unrelated franchise quite a bit, though I don’t want to treat something as “canon unless not immediately, easily going on the timeline”, especially when it’s a franchise referenced in Mario and not Mario referenced in a franchise since it feels Nintendo is actively making an effort to say “this franchise is canon”

Also, there’s more things for Scienstein being the same than being different, so I don’t see why it should be disregarded because of some inconsistencies - a lot of big franchises gain inconsistencies when this much content’s involved anyway

 

[Elly]

I thought Dr 64 was when he was shown to be good? Anyway, the game could just happen between Wario Land 3 and 4.

I know I’m shifting a lot of stuff around based on a relatively unrelated franchise quite a bit, though I don’t want to treat something as “canon unless not immediately, easily going on the timeline”, especially when it’s a franchise referenced in Mario and not Mario referenced in a franchise since it feels Nintendo is actively making an effort to say “this franchise is canon”

Also, there’s more things for Scienstein being the same than being different, so I don’t see why it should be disregarded because of some inconsistencies - a lot of big franchises gain inconsistencies when this much content’s involved anyway

I guess, it's fine either way I was just thinking it's possible 3 and 4 were different guys because of the names.

 

[Elly]

Btw on the franchise list in the OP you should change "Sabre Wulf" into "Sabreman". That franchise has more games than just the GBA sequel, it had 4 games in the early 80s

 

[Elly]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabreman

 

[Elly]

I'd assume the 4 original games all occured in 1984 due to that being the year Sabreman got frozen in Hailfire peaks. Although... Pentagram might not be canon. If you play UnderWurlde there's 3 endings depending on which exit you use. One tells you to go play Knight Lore (the 3rd game also released in 1984), Mire Mare (the cancelled game) or Pentagram (released in 1986) and if you finish Knight Lore it tells you to go play Mire Mare (again cancelled) so I think it's possible Pentagram doesn't happen since that came out in 1986 and Sabreman says he was frozen since 1984, so I think the first 3 games are canon. Then the SabreWulf GBA game occurs after Banjo Tooie when Sabreman is unfrozen

 

[stphylcccs]

I'd assume the 4 original games all occured in 1984 due to that being the year Sabreman got frozen in Hailfire peaks. Although... Pentagram might not be canon. If you play UnderWurlde there's 3 endings depending on which exit you use. One tells you to go play Knight Lore (the 3rd game also released in 1984), Mire Mare (the cancelled game) or Pentagram (released in 1986) and if you finish Knight Lore it tells you to go play Mire Mare (again cancelled) so I think it's possible Pentagram doesn't happen since that came out in 1986 and Sabreman says he was frozen since 1984, so I think the first 3 games are canon. Then the SabreWulf GBA game occurs after Banjo Tooie when Sabreman is unfrozen

Yeah, that seems fair

 

[Elly]

P.S. the Sabreman games are old school tough, the only one I've ever beaten is SabreWulf and even with that I had to use a guide for a good chunk of it.