X-Men Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Revised & Original)

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Pro Bot said:
Earth-17315 is literally the universe of Logan. That's what it says, so that's still conflicting. I disagree with it because it's wrong, frankly. No hard feelings. :p

As for the young X-Men cast? The younger cast essentially became a recast of the originals as time went on. Regardless of whether it makes sense, James McAvoy played a 60 year old Xavier in Dark Phoenix.

As for their actual appearances, it's not as big of an issue as you'd think. You see them for a brief few seconds and they don't look too different from the older cast. Or at least, closer than Edward Norton and Mark Ruffalo hahaha.

How is this any different than any recast? It's just a visual. Nothing contradictory. If it bothers you that much, just say that the X-Men happen to age like Hollywood celebrities. They have 5 years to age into what we see in the Days of Future Past epilogue and, if we take it as a recast, that's mostly viable. I won't make an excuse for McAvoy and Stewart, but at least the scene is short and he doesn't have as many distinguishing features thanks to being bald.
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I agree in part. But rather than make it go well I want to first sift through every possibility. There are still discrepancies in my review, like the Cable's timeline. I will continue to find ways to match it because as I said, I think The XCU contains some of the best Marvel movies, and regardless of continuity they will remain, but that doesn't stop me from trying.
 
Dego Strange said:
I reworked my first version to fit with universes. Some things may differ from the original information, but I am doing my utmost to make sure that most things fit together.

Earth-10005 (Original Timeline)
X-Men: First Class
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
X-Men
X2: X-Men United
X-Men: The Official Game
X-Men: The Last Stand
The Wolverine
The Gifted
X-Men: Days Of Future Past (Rouge Cut) (at the end just 1973 parts)
(New Timeline)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (without Xavier physical appearance)
X-Men: Dark Phoenix
Deadpool
Deadpool 2 (without Logan references)
X-Men: Days Of Future Past (just bad 2023 parts)

Earth-17315 (Logan/Cable's Timeline)
X-Men First Class
X-Men: Days Of Future Past (1973 parts)
X-Men: Apocalypse
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (alternative)
X-Men
X2: X-Men United
X-Men: The Last Stand
The Wolverine
Deadpool
New Mutants
Logan

Earth-66250 (Peaceful Future)
X-Men First Class
X-Men: Days Of Future Past (1973 Parts)
X-Men: Apocalypse
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (alternative)
X-Men
X2: X-Men United
X-Men: The Last Stand
The Wolverine
Deadpool
Deadpool 2 Super Duper Cut
X-Men Days of Future Past (just good 2023 parts)

Earth-41633 (Deadpool Timeline)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (alternative)
Deadpool
Deadpool 2 Super Duper Cut (Vanessa Lives timeline)
Deadpool 3

I like most of the films in this Franchise and I think they can give a lot if consistency issues are solved
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Cable's future is designated Earth-66250. Earth-41633 is the timeline where the events of Deadpool 2 take place, not the ending. The Appendix explicitly calls the timeline where Deadpool kills Weapon XI a divergent timeline to Earth-10005, the original timeline.

I think I have an idea for you if you want to maintain the happy ending.

Earth-10005 - Original Timeline
Earth-66250 - Cable's Timeline
Earth-41633 - Deadpool 2/Peaceful ending (James Mangold confirmed that Logan continues from the happy ending in DoFP but oh well...)
Earth-17315 - Logan/Venessa Lives Timeline

Actually, even if we accept that the happy ending is prior to Logan, the Deadpool 2 timeline could have led to any future where the characters have a happy ending. Just know that the version of Wolverine we see in Deadpool 3 will die. They've made it clear that they're not touching his death and Logan still takes place in 2029.

The Gifted has it's own Earth number now. Maybe you could argue it's the timeline at the beginning of Days of Future Past where the Sentinels attacked and Kitty sent them back in time so they could evacuate if you really wanted to, but I think it's just standalone for now.

The Logan references in Deadpool 2 are because Wade has existential awareness of how his universe is fictional in Earth-1218 (our reality) and has knowledge of media that exists here. Because Logan came out in 2017, and Wade is in 2018, he is aware that it will happen in the future. Just like how in the comics he knows of future issues.

If an issue is the X-Mansion having young children in 2023 when mutants haven't been born since 2004, note that Xavier wants to open the school for both humans and mutants in X-Men: Apocalypse. Clearly he must have fulfilled that by 2023.

The original films are not connected to Logan. If you're trying to fit that in that deleted scene, understand that Xavier read Wolverine's mind and knows of events in both timelines. Plus, some details might be the same even if the events are totally different. That's why Wolverine has the sword from The Wolverine even though that movie isn't part of his new timeline.

I'm just going to say, there are no real continuity issues between First Class-Dark Phoenix, Deadpool 1-2, The New Mutants and Logan. Everything can be resolved without separating the films just because you can. You don't need to separate Dark Phoenix and Logan. Xavier returned to teaching sometime between Dark Phoenix and Deadpool and the school returned to its proper name.
 
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I feel like you're trying to resolve continuity issues but I personally feel like there aren't any that need resolving in that manner. You can explain all of them while keeping all the films in the same timeline as intended. :)
 
selfishmisery said:
X-Men: Days of Future Past Chapter 2 (0:07:55 - 0:07:59) [Alternate Sentinel Timeline]
X-Men: Days of Future Past Chapter 3 (0:08:00 - 0:10:27) [Alternate Sentinel Timeline]
X-Men: Days of Future Past Chapter 4 (0:10:28 - 0:13:57) [Alternate Sentinel Timeline]
X-Men: Days of Future Past Chapter 4 (0:10:28 - 0:11:13) [Alternate Sentinel Timeline]
X-Men: Days of Future Past Chapter 4 (0:11:29 - 0:11:57) [Alternate Sentinel Timeline]
X-Men: Days of Future Past Chapter 4 (0:12:05 - 0:12:06) [Alternate Sentinel Timeline]
X-Men: Days of Future Past Chapter 4 (0:12:15 - 0:12:24) [Alternate Sentinel Timeline]
X-Men: Days of Future Past Chapter 4 (0:12:27 - 0:12:29) [Alternate Sentinel Timeline]
X-Men: Days of Future Past Chapter 4 (0:12:50 - 0:13:57) [Alternate Sentinel Timeline]
X-Men: Days of Future Past Chapter 5 (0:13:58 - 0:17:01) [Alternate Sentinel Timeline]
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You have 10:28 and 13:57 on here twice what's with these timestamps
 
saborlord123 said:
Any reason X-Men and X2 are set in 2002?
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I can't remember tbh. I'll research again

BTW What are your guys thoughts on Deadpool 3? They said it will essentially take place before Logan but not affect it to where it doesn't matter.

Will Deadpool essentially immigrate mutants over to the MCU reality (Earth-199999) - leading to the drop in population on Earth-17315 somehow? The only problem with that is Wolverine wouldn't know about that and we're all lead to believe it was that company in Logan that put gene suppressants in junk food products.
 
Dallas Kinard said:
Legion 1x05 is missing.
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It's there but it's written as 1x04

Legion 1x03: "Chapter 4" (0:12:55 - 0:18:34)
Legion 1x04: "Chapter 4" (0:18:39 - 0:18:47)
Legion 1x04: "Chapter 4" (0:19:11 - 0:31:36
Legion 1x04: "Chapter 4" (0:31:56 - 0:52:02)
Legion 1x04: "Chapter 5"
Legion 1x08: "Chapter 8" (0:00:00 - 0:00:55)
 
(sorry if this is annoying)
Is the bit at the top a viewing order
If it is could someone explain days of future past
If not could I please have a viewing order

Anyway sorry for asking another probably simple question thanks for any help
 
MonkeyD_Lufon said:
(sorry if this is annoying)
Is the bit at the top a viewing order
If it is could someone explain days of future past
If not could I please have a viewing order

Anyway sorry for asking another probably simple question thanks for any help
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X-Men First Class: The High Hand
X-Men: First Class
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
X-Men
X2: X-Men United: The Movie Prequels
X2: X-Men United
X-Men: The Official Game
X-Men: The Last Stand
The Wolverine
X-Men: Days of Future Past
X-Men: Apocalypse
X-Men: Dark Phoenix
Deadpool
Deadpool 2
The New Mutants
Logan
Deadpool 3(?)
 
selfishmisery said:
X-Men First Class: The High Hand
X-Men: First Class
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
X-Men
X2: X-Men United: The Movie Prequels
X2: X-Men United
X-Men: The Official Game
X-Men: The Last Stand
The Wolverine
X-Men: Days of Future Past
X-Men: Apocalypse
X-Men: Dark Phoenix
Deadpool
Deadpool 2
The New Mutants
Logan
Deadpool 3(?)
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For the official game watch a game playthrough on Youtube. :)
 
selfishmisery said:
X-Men First Class: The High Hand
X-Men: First Class
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
X-Men
X2: X-Men United: The Movie Prequels
X2: X-Men United
X-Men: The Official Game
X-Men: The Last Stand
The Wolverine
X-Men: Days of Future Past
X-Men: Apocalypse
X-Men: Dark Phoenix
Deadpool
Deadpool 2
The New Mutants
Logan
Deadpool 3(?)
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Thanks a lot
 
Making a speculative comment (I had already talked about this in the past), some rumors could begin to make you think what I've been thinking for some time.

1 - The Timeline revisited is:
Apocalypse
Deadpool
The New Mutants
Logan

I separate Deadpool 2 from this timeline precisely because both this film and 3 are almost a direct consequence of Logan's death in Logan. So I'm starting to think that Deadpool 2 starts off branching out after learning (thanks to his Fourth Wall-breaking skills) of his rival's death.

2 - Dark Phoenix is set after Deadpool 2 (Making both this and the first film set much before 2015), as some, minimal, differences can be explained with Wade modifying the past

3 - The Timeline in which Vanessa did not die and where Dark Phoenix is set is Earth 838. This is very controversial but I take the possible presence of Wanda from 838 in the film as confirmation

As I said before, it's all speculative. Being that these rumors confirm premonitions and theories that I had in the past, I felt like sharing it with you
 
The traffic lights being different make Earth-838 an entirely new timeline - though in some ways you're on the right track with it, based on some Deadpool 3 stuff. :oops:

I don't really see why Dark Phoenix has to be a different timeline. There's a serveral year gap so everything pretty much just goes back to status quo like it always does.
 
Pro Bot said:
The traffic lights being different make Earth-838 an entirely new timeline - though in some ways you're on the right track with it, based on some Deadpool 3 stuff. :oops:

I don't really see why Dark Phoenix has to be a different timeline. There's a serveral year gap so everything pretty much just goes back to status quo like it always does.
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This speech of mine does not change much from the other times we have discussed it.

Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix have differences that aren't big enough to call inconsistencies, but they sure are annoying retcons.

I previously agreed that they were all one timeline, but even then I considered Deadpool and Deadpool 2 to be set between the 2 X-Men reboot movies, this was because it bothered me that the School would revert to its original name and that Xavier would be returned as principal. Plus the cameos of the young X-Men in 2018 is decisive. If it had been an isolated case I would have understood it (also because the film is by Deadpool and is perfectly in line with the character), but combined with the things I said before, it becomes decisive for me.

Last point... I have always considered the post DoFP Xavier (especially that of Dark Phoenix), perfectly in line with that of MoM (moreover, pretending it's official, the fact that for the first time in that film he does the right things, quoting what the Xavier of the original Timeline told him, would be a nice closure). But MoM could not take place in the same Timeline of Apocalypse (which would have led to the events of Logan), and the fact that Deadpool 2 (and above all 3) is also moved by the fact that Wade is perfectly aware of Wolverine's death, exploits what I've always thought (i.e. that Deadpool and his Sequel were set before Dark Phoenix), to make the new Deadpool 2 timeline (the one in which he saves Vanessa and where Cable's events don't happen), also the home of the last film of the X-Men
 

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