Fantastic Four Reboot

[E]

"Especially after, you know, the first one."

What exactly are you saying, Mike?

 

[wyokid]

I figured out how you make a sequel to this.

DARK AND GRITTY FOUND FOOTAGE GALACTUS DISASTER MOVIE

The F4 would show up three times. Once at the beginning to meet the Silver Surfer in Central Park for an exposition dump, once in the middle to get beat by Galactus and once at the end to save the day. They behave exactly like they do in the comics. The movie would then follow the family that the Surfer decides to stay with to learn about Earth's culture. The film would be very somber and mellow to make things the family and the Surfer do seem more extraordinary. It'd be like Marvels, but fitting into the tone of the first film.

 

[Ice]

I figured out how you make a sequel to this.

DARK AND GRITTY FOUND FOOTAGE GALACTUS DISASTER MOVIE

The F4 would show up three times. Once at the beginning to meet the Silver Surfer in Central Park for an exposition dump, once in the middle to get beat by Galactus and once at the end to save the day. They behave exactly like they do in the comics. The movie would then follow the family that the Surfer decides to stay with to learn about Earth's culture. The film would be very somber and mellow to make things the family and the Surfer do seem more extraordinary. It'd be like Marvels, but fitting into the tone of the first film.

Nope.

 

[wyokid]

Nope.

How about as a canon one shot on the MCU F4 Blu-Ray?

 

[Captain Canuck]

So I just watched the 1994 and the 2015 Fantastic Fours back to back. I know, I'm a glutton for punishment, but I had never seen either of them, and I figured I probably should at some point.

The 1994 movie is bad - really, really bad. I'm not sure how the actors in it thought it was a serious project.

The 2015 movie didn't seem as awful by comparison. I enjoyed how much it drew from Ultimate Fantastic Four. And I thought Thing looked the best he ever has, except that he was naked the whole movie and distractingly genderless. Stick some shorts on that guy. Or on that person, I guess.

Doom was really done terribly. Why is it so hard to get him right? His motivations and vague telekinetic powers made no sense.

But most of all, It was just incredibly dull. Every character was deadpan all the way through and the movie just wasn't fun... or fantastic at all!

 

[wyokid]

So I just watched the 1994 and the 2015 Fantastic Fours back to back. I know, I'm a glutton for punishment, but I had never seen either of them, and I figured I probably should at some point.

The 1994 movie is bad - really, really bad. I'm not sure how the actors in it thought it was a serious project.

You're nuts, the 1994 one is the best Fantastic Four movie we've ever had. It got the character correct, the story was good, and when Reed is reaching for Victor at the end I was on the edge of my seat wondering what was going to happen next. Compared to the other three it's a masterpiece. I bought it on DVD even.

 

[Captain Canuck]

You're nuts, the 1994 one is the best Fantastic Four movie we've ever had. It got the character correct,

They felt like cartoon characters. Especially Doom.

the story was good,

The story was generic.

and when Reed is reaching for Victor at the end I was on the edge of my seat wondering what was going to happen next.

:sure:
Literally the EXACT same thing that happens every time a villain falls off something and the hero tries to save them. Every time.

Compared to the other three it's a masterpiece. I bought it on DVD even.

Well measuring by the other three isn't really a very high bar. But I think the 2005 one is probably better. But to each his own, Wyo.

 

[Ice]

Everyone who put together the '94 knew it was crap. It was only done so the film rights weren't lost. I never finished that one. I think I went like 15 or minutes before I stopped watching it. 2015's better by comparison, but that's not saying much. At all.

 

[wyokid]

They felt like cartoon characters. Especially Doom.

Just like the comics. Also Doom was awful awful awful in the other films. Downgraded to a business man with electric powers and whatever the heck 20015's was. This one actually felt like Doom.

The story was generic.

Just like the other ones.

Well measuring by the other three isn't really a very high bar. But I think the 2005 one is probably better. But to each his own, Wyo.

Everyone who put together the '94 knew it was crap. It was only done so the film rights weren't lost. I never finished that one. I think I went like 15 or minutes before I stopped watching it. 2015's better by comparison, but that's not saying much. At all.

I'm not saying it's a good movie by any stretch of the imagination, just better than the others. I think you underestimate how desperate I am for my favorite superhero comic to be adapted properly lol. 1994 was the closest we've come.

 

[Captain Canuck]

I'm not saying it's a good movie by any stretch of the imagination, just better than the others. I think you underestimate how desperate I am for my favorite superhero comic to be adapted properly lol. 1994 was the closest we've come.

Fair enough.

 

[DIrishB]

Everyone who put together the '94 knew it was crap. It was only done so the film rights weren't lost. I never finished that one. I think I went like 15 or minutes before I stopped watching it. 2015's better by comparison, but that's not saying much. At all.

It makes the 2015 one worse in a way, due to the exceedingly higher budget and talent involved. The 1994 one was always a sham job from the producers/directors viewpoint: low budget, filmed over a few weeks, D-list talent (I don't think the actors knew at the time it was never meant for release, which they found out later). The 2015 version was just a pretentious abomination that you could tell no one involved with making it was taking the job seriously. Trank really Tranked it. Horrible movie. And Fox greenlighting it shows their execs have no idea what to do with the FF either. The 2005/2007 movies weren't great, but they at least got a few things perfect, namely Chiklis' Ben/Thing and Evans' Johnny Storm. However, again, the studio (and maybe director) chose Jessica Alba as Sue, which was a mistake. And what's his name was a decent Reed, but not memorable or truly evoking of Reed Richards, merely more of a shallow caricature (that's partially the scripts fault too). Same with Sue.

And of course, none have gotten Doom right yet. Three attempts and all range on variations of shallow caricature instead of imposing and brilliant antagonist.

 

[wyokid]

The actors didn't know it wasn't going to be released which is why there are good performances. 1994 got closest to the source material. Even the 2015 couldn't adapted Ultimate Fantastic Four correctly. I like 94 like I liked Daredevil or Ghost Rider 2, it's the closest we have currently, but once something better comes I'm going to turn on it quickly. I can't even watch Daredevil anymore, I got to when the kids are picking on young Matt and shut it off.