Batman/Superman news and rumors

[E]

Ugh, a Planet Hulk movie.

I don't care how good people think Planet Hulk was; it was not a good Hulk story.

It even seems like the last couple years have found Marvel trying to get Hulk and Banner back into the normal world (and having a difficult time of it because of how "out there" those stories were) and away from those stories.

Write a good story that deals with Banner's struggles with controlling the Hulk, not stories about Hulk as a conquering warrior on other planets.

 

[Ultimate Houde]

Planet Hulk was a good story, they just hardly dealt with Banner at all, he was always the Hulk in it, which kinda made me not like the story.

Dig?

 

[wyokid]

You all are nuts. Planet Hulk was awesome

 

[Zombipanda]

I actually thought Planet Hulk was a decent story, but I think it could make a better movie.

Hulk fighting giant space monsters and Bruce Banner using his mental resources to try and do as much as good as he can on a savage alien planet. It could be a great way to further establish Thanos as the big bad in Avengers 3.

But I'd imagine Disney is pretty gun-shy about something like that after how badly John Carter bombed.

 

[E]

You all are nuts. Planet Hulk was awesome

I don't think our tastes in comics are compatible.

 

[DIrishB]

I actually thought Planet Hulk was a decent story, but I think it could make a better movie. Hulk fighting giant space monsters and Bruce Banner using his mental resources to try and do as much as good as he can on a savage alien planet. It could be a great way to further establish Thanos as the big bad in Avengers 3. But I'd imagine Disney is pretty gun-shy about something like that after how badly John Carter bombed.

Normally I'd agree, but the Marvel movies basically equate to printing huge amounts of money (but in a way that doesn't destabilize and weaken the economy like the Federal Reserve does). While it may make them think twice, I seriously doubt Disney would pass on it, especially after the reception Ruffalo's performance got in Avengers. That'll hopefully only increase further after Avengers 2.

 

[Ice]

Jesse Eisenberg to play Lex Luthor, Jeremy Irons to play Alfred

 

[Captain Canuck]

Jesse Eisenberg to play Lex Luthor, Jeremy Irons to play Alfred

I really hope Lex Luthor made his fortune in social media and by screwing over his friends.

 

[Zombipanda]

Huh. Eisenberg is actually a pretty clever choice.

 

[DIrishB]

Jesse Eisenberg to play Lex Luthor, Jeremy Irons to play Alfred

Hmmmm. It could work. I'm admittedly wary of Eisenberg as Lex. I like Eisenberg in everything he's done, but he always plays somewhat awkward characters. It'll be interesting to see him tackle the egotistical and genius character of Lex.

I really hope Lex Luthor made his fortune in social media and by screwing over his friends.

Lol. Lexbook.

 

[Ice]

:lol:

 

[DIrishB]

:lol:

Nice.

 

[Captain Canuck]

hahahaha, I so want to see Michael Cera's portrayal of Joker!

 

[wyokid]

I'm starting to feel like Warner Brothers lost a really bad bet

 

[Ice]

How Warner Is Rebranding 'Batman Vs. Superman'


At this point, it feels like it will be a miracle if this movie ever actually gets made.

 

[E]

I'm starting to feel like Warner Brothers lost a really bad bet

It kind of does seem like that!

How Warner Is Rebranding 'Batman Vs. Superman'

First of all, notice that the names Christopher Nolan and Emma Thomas are absent from the list of executive producers.

What an unbelievable mess this thing is.

 

[Zombipanda]

It kind of does seem like that!





What an unbelievable mess this thing is.

I don't know. The lessening of Nolan's role could signify that they're transitioning to a film universe more guided by Terrio and Affleck. I think that's a promising prospect.

 

[E]

I don't know. The lessening of Nolan's role could signify that they're transitioning to a film universe more guided by Terrio and Affleck. I think that's a promising prospect.

It's less about who is in charge than about the changing of who is in charge this late in the game.

 

[Zombipanda]

It's less about who is in charge than about the changing of who is in charge this late in the game.

This late in the game?

Aren't they still in the scriptwriting phase?

 

[Ice]

This late in the game?

Aren't they still in the scriptwriting phase?

They're re-writing the movie again and after they began shooting scenes.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

I can't say I agree with casting Eisenberg but Irons is a great choice.

That said, I can definitely see Eisenberg playing the young, wunderkind Luthor who isn't so much a possible physical threat to Superman but the kind of snobby genius akin to his portrayal in Red Son.

 

[Zombipanda]

They're re-writing the movie again and after they began shooting scenes.

So? I see it like this. Noting the success of Avengers and MoS, WB rushed a new movie into production. They attached Nolan as an executive producer, despite the fact that his title would likely just be nominal and they had their superhero writing machine crank out a hurried script and jumped right into production.

Then they took a step back and realized they were being a bit hasty. They attached executive producers who might actually be invested. They brought in a critically acclaimed screenwriter who has experience with one of their big stars to comb over the script, establishing a script that might allow for the Argo team to be more invested in the franchise long-term (and god knows Goyer can use some co-writers). They pushed back the release date and are presumably willing to scrap footage that's already been shot for the sake of a more polished movie. This shows to me a willingness to take some financial hits for the sake of getting the movie right.

The presence of Snyder and Goyer still worries me a bit, but I don't think these production changes are a bad indication at all. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if the change in direction has something to do with Affleck's presence. The guy already has a superhero bomb under his belt, and is clearly passionate about comics, so I could see him being gun-shy about making sure this project actually hits the mark; and the possibility of him directing a JL movie in the future certainly seems like a tantalizing enough trump card to allow him to stage a coup for more creative control in this movie. Terrio and Affleck is a more exciting prospect to me than Goyer and a bored Nolan.

 

[Ice]

So?

What do you mean, "so?"? I wasn't complaining or anything. I just answered your question. :?

 

[E]

This late in the game?

Aren't they still in the scriptwriting phase?

They announced a direction and then changed it. Once they announced the direction they were going in then yes - it's late in the game to be making drastic changes like that. Whether the new people involved are more suited for the jobs or better or whatever...that isn't the point. They look like chickens running around with their heads chopped off with no idea what they are doing or how they want to do it. Almost everything they've done thus far smells of desperation and ill-preparedness.

 

[Zombipanda]

What do you mean, "so?"? I wasn't complaining or anything. I just answered your question. :?

Haha. Sorry. I was just using your comment to piggyback off E's criticism.

Sorry I used you.

They announced a direction and then changed it. Once they announced the direction they were going in then yes - it's late in the game to be making drastic changes like that. Whether the new people involved are more suited for the jobs or better or whatever...that isn't the point. They look like chickens running around with their heads chopped off with no idea what they are doing or how they want to do it. Almost everything they've done thus far smells of desperation and ill-preparedness.

Nah. Trying to rush the movie out of the gate to catch up to Marvel stank of desperation. Taking a step back and taking the time to reconsider their plan is sensible.

 

[Ice]

Haha. Sorry. I was just using your comment to piggyback off E's criticism. Sorry I used you.

You said you would call back after last night!

 

[DIrishB]

I agree with Zombi in this case. Them holding off almost a year allows them to improve the script, as well as also realistically planning/plotting a Justice League movie for 2017 (since that seems pretty likely).

I'm sure it'll result in a better film in the end.

 

[Captain Canuck]

I kind of feel like everyone's right. The fact that they did push it back a year, start rewriting the script, and change the producers AFTER they had already started shooting shows that they rushed into this without really thinking it through. But the fact that they are now doing it also shows that cooler heads have prevailed and they are trying to back up and do this well.

I think Ben Affleck signed on and then saw what was going on and said, "Get your act together or I'm out." And they listened.

 

[DIrishB]

I kind of feel like everyone's right. The fact that they did push it back a year, start rewriting the script, and change the producers AFTER they had already started shooting shows that they rushed into this without really thinking it through. But the fact that they are now doing it also shows that cooler heads have prevailed and they are trying to back up and do this well. I think Ben Affleck signed on and then saw what was going on and said, "Get your act together or I'm out." And they listened.

Agreed. DC/WB realizes if they want to compete with Marvel Studios they need to take the films seriously. Especially in the aspect of world building.

I'd be quite surprised if Batman/Superman doesn't result in a decent film.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

I think Ben Affleck signed on and then saw what was going on and said, "Get your act together or I'm out." And they listened.

I'm inclined to agree. He's worked too hard to legitimize his acting and directing cred over these past few years to let it all go waste with doing a rushed-job blockbuster that puts him back in Daredevil/Gigli territory.