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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
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Ultimate Spider-Man: Death of a Goblin (#112-117) (Spoilers)
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Ice
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
Does it really matter? I'll answer that. No.
Just discuss the comic.
Does it really matter? I'll answer that. No.
Just discuss the comic.
Victor Von Doom
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
Me :heart: USM.
There.
Me :heart: USM.
There.
Re: IGN.com's preview of Ultimate Spider-Man #114
Tradewait. Haven't read it yet.
Tradewait. Haven't read it yet.
TwilightEL
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
Spider-Man, you moron. They're going to shoot at you. They always shoot at you. Either run away or cooperate.
Spider-Man, you moron. They're going to shoot at you. They always shoot at you. Either run away or cooperate.
the watcher
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
Yeah but these are S.H.I.E.L.D agents who work for Fury... So why would Spidey think they were going to shot him. I mean after the whole Clone arc. it seemed like Spidey and Fury had an understanding...
Yeah but these are S.H.I.E.L.D agents who work for Fury... So why would Spidey think they were going to shot him. I mean after the whole Clone arc. it seemed like Spidey and Fury had an understanding...
Victor Von Doom
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
What makes you think that they were actually SHIELD?
Granted, I'd have to go back and read it again to double check that there was any kind of confirmation...but they could just be Osborne mercs.
What makes you think that they were actually SHIELD?
Granted, I'd have to go back and read it again to double check that there was any kind of confirmation...but they could just be Osborne mercs.
the watcher
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
Well for one thing the uniforms, those are S.H.I.E.L.D. issue uniforms... if you look at the pannal just after the one were spidey wacks Electro with the tire. You can see on one of the arms of the agents, the S.H.I.E.L.D Symbol and secendly then theres the cell Peter's in. It looks just like the one Osborn was in. Not to mention Danvers is a contral freak and arresting spidey with out cause would be so something she would do...
Well for one thing the uniforms, those are S.H.I.E.L.D. issue uniforms... if you look at the pannal just after the one were spidey wacks Electro with the tire. You can see on one of the arms of the agents, the S.H.I.E.L.D Symbol and secendly then theres the cell Peter's in. It looks just like the one Osborn was in. Not to mention Danvers is a contral freak and arresting spidey with out cause would be so something she would do...
TwilightEL
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
He was flipping around Manhattan fighting naked electric guy and giving naked electric guy a chance to escape when SHIELD had had (yes, the double had is intentional and makes grammatical sense) a clear shot with a tranquilizer or even an actual bullet. Yeah, he probably didn't think things through and realize that obviously SHIELD would be watching Osborn's apartment, but that doesn't change the fact that he could've messed everything up. Is Danvers a control freak if she doesn't want this super-powered, idiotic variable running around while she's desperately trying to fix everything? Is it still being a control freak if being out of control means innocent people dying? And maybe she just wanted to talk to him and the SHIELD agents were being overzealous. He should've made his decision to run away or to quietly talk to them, not stay there and yell while halfheartedly fighting.
There were so many better things he could've done. If he wanted to know what SHIELD was doing, seeing Electro there would be the best opportunity to see if SHIELD is there (by waiting to see if agents would try to grab him). From there, you could... I don't know... follow the agents, ignore them and check out more leads on Osborn, go in the open and try to talk to them... Peter is supposed to be smart. He's not. Immature? I'm younger than he's supposed to be. He's just stupid.
He was flipping around Manhattan fighting naked electric guy and giving naked electric guy a chance to escape when SHIELD had had (yes, the double had is intentional and makes grammatical sense) a clear shot with a tranquilizer or even an actual bullet. Yeah, he probably didn't think things through and realize that obviously SHIELD would be watching Osborn's apartment, but that doesn't change the fact that he could've messed everything up. Is Danvers a control freak if she doesn't want this super-powered, idiotic variable running around while she's desperately trying to fix everything? Is it still being a control freak if being out of control means innocent people dying? And maybe she just wanted to talk to him and the SHIELD agents were being overzealous. He should've made his decision to run away or to quietly talk to them, not stay there and yell while halfheartedly fighting.
There were so many better things he could've done. If he wanted to know what SHIELD was doing, seeing Electro there would be the best opportunity to see if SHIELD is there (by waiting to see if agents would try to grab him). From there, you could... I don't know... follow the agents, ignore them and check out more leads on Osborn, go in the open and try to talk to them... Peter is supposed to be smart. He's not. Immature? I'm younger than he's supposed to be. He's just stupid.
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
this near-worship of immonen is out of control - sure, he has his strengths (good mood, good action), but he has a serious problem with faces and facial expressions. the characters look annoyingly similar too much of the time, and the proportions are so consistently bad that it looks like most of them have developed a mild case of down syndrome since bagley left. as far as the art goes, i'm way more impressed by the inks and colors here.
meanwhile, bendis is delivering the story goods, plain and simple. of course we can't judge the arc mid-stream, but things are building nicely and the situation is interesting. peter's newly reestablished relationships with m.j. and aunt may are really satisfying - that said, i hope they both stay out of town and out of the arc after this. it'd be supremely uninteresting to have one of them dangling off of a bridge or whatever at the climax.
i love the dangerous uncertainty of peter's status with SHIELD sans nick fury, and i equally love the possibility suggested above that it's osborn, not SHIELD who has caught him at the end.
i also love that electro seems to have been eating cereal, saltines, and soda - little details like that are worth my 2.99 all by themselves.
this near-worship of immonen is out of control - sure, he has his strengths (good mood, good action), but he has a serious problem with faces and facial expressions. the characters look annoyingly similar too much of the time, and the proportions are so consistently bad that it looks like most of them have developed a mild case of down syndrome since bagley left. as far as the art goes, i'm way more impressed by the inks and colors here.
meanwhile, bendis is delivering the story goods, plain and simple. of course we can't judge the arc mid-stream, but things are building nicely and the situation is interesting. peter's newly reestablished relationships with m.j. and aunt may are really satisfying - that said, i hope they both stay out of town and out of the arc after this. it'd be supremely uninteresting to have one of them dangling off of a bridge or whatever at the climax.
i love the dangerous uncertainty of peter's status with SHIELD sans nick fury, and i equally love the possibility suggested above that it's osborn, not SHIELD who has caught him at the end.
i also love that electro seems to have been eating cereal, saltines, and soda - little details like that are worth my 2.99 all by themselves.
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
You want people looking the same? Go look at Bagley's art during the series.
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Oh damn, am I gonna get banned now?
You want people looking the same? Go look at Bagley's art during the series.
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Oh damn, am I gonna get banned now?
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ultimatedjf
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
I liked the issue, I just wish it had a bit more dialogue in it. I finished it way too fast. Why can't more books be like Ant-Man or The Initiative? Heck, Bendis is usually the go-to guy for dialogue heavy books (see New Avengers right now) but I feel like these last two issues were too quick of a read.
The art, as always, was fantastic. Immonen needs to stay long term on the title.
4/5
I liked the issue, I just wish it had a bit more dialogue in it. I finished it way too fast. Why can't more books be like Ant-Man or The Initiative? Heck, Bendis is usually the go-to guy for dialogue heavy books (see New Avengers right now) but I feel like these last two issues were too quick of a read.
The art, as always, was fantastic. Immonen needs to stay long term on the title.
4/5
polscots
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
Another great issue !!
Art and storyline both fantastic as per last few issues !!
Loved the whole <"he's running away???" "where's your dignity ???"> thing !! that raised a chuckle :lol: :lol:
The only problem now is ... can I wait till the next issue ???
4.4/5
Another great issue !!
Art and storyline both fantastic as per last few issues !!
Loved the whole <"he's running away???" "where's your dignity ???"> thing !! that raised a chuckle :lol: :lol:
The only problem now is ... can I wait till the next issue ???
4.4/5
TwilightEL
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
Before I saw the preview, I thought it would have Peter being more freaked out and it would have Peter and MJ talking it out like a responsible couple--you know, like Kitty and Peter would have. Unfortunately, it did not.
MJ is being written as immature and whiny. It's like she's degenerated as a character from how she was portrayed before. Peter might not have loved Kitty, but at least she was actually helpful and supportive instead of making him worried all the time.
The scenario of "I'm happy with my current girlfriend, but I'll dump her for this other girl who I had a passionate romance with that we mutually ruined for all of eternity with a series of terrible mistakes and decisions" isn't unique or unrealistic, but it's frustrating to see these characters who have supposedly grown play it out. Bendis isn't treating it like we should be happy he kissed MJ before even breaking up with Kitty, but it's not being portrayed like it's unhealthy and I really think it is. I mean, Peter and MJ are in high school, but it's like they've thought since the beginning (seriously, check out how many times they've talked about getting married!) and still secretly think that they're Meant To Be.
Before I saw the preview, I thought it would have Peter being more freaked out and it would have Peter and MJ talking it out like a responsible couple--you know, like Kitty and Peter would have. Unfortunately, it did not.
MJ is being written as immature and whiny. It's like she's degenerated as a character from how she was portrayed before. Peter might not have loved Kitty, but at least she was actually helpful and supportive instead of making him worried all the time.
The scenario of "I'm happy with my current girlfriend, but I'll dump her for this other girl who I had a passionate romance with that we mutually ruined for all of eternity with a series of terrible mistakes and decisions" isn't unique or unrealistic, but it's frustrating to see these characters who have supposedly grown play it out. Bendis isn't treating it like we should be happy he kissed MJ before even breaking up with Kitty, but it's not being portrayed like it's unhealthy and I really think it is. I mean, Peter and MJ are in high school, but it's like they've thought since the beginning (seriously, check out how many times they've talked about getting married!) and still secretly think that they're Meant To Be.
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SSJmole
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
You forget though he's Spider-man
Of course he thinks of dumping current girl for old one , old one is hotter and we as men don't tend to think with our brains :lol:
You forget though he's Spider-man
Of course he thinks of dumping current girl for old one , old one is hotter and we as men don't tend to think with our brains :lol:
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
Or, at least, you don't.
I'd go with the one who isn't a self-center *****.
Or, at least, you don't.
I'd go with the one who isn't a self-center *****.
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
That'll change when you hit puberty
:lol:
That'll change when you hit puberty
:lol:
mulesandmud
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
mary jane has been immature since almost day one. all of her marriage talk is vintage high-school gooey love talk - no concept of the real world. i love how she sort of realizes her own immaturity and tries (with occasional success) to grow up a little, but i can forgive her freakout here.
kitty's emotional maturity level is a little higher, and she definitely has a more neurotic real-world view of relationships ("Don't break up with me!"), yet another reason that she is a breath of fresh air for both us and peter.
peter is wise beyond his years in lots of ways, but that's not taken for granted, especially in the relationship department. the title has nicely underlined the fact that bravery and conscience, while mature, are not the same thing as maturity.
mary jane has been immature since almost day one. all of her marriage talk is vintage high-school gooey love talk - no concept of the real world. i love how she sort of realizes her own immaturity and tries (with occasional success) to grow up a little, but i can forgive her freakout here.
kitty's emotional maturity level is a little higher, and she definitely has a more neurotic real-world view of relationships ("Don't break up with me!"), yet another reason that she is a breath of fresh air for both us and peter.
peter is wise beyond his years in lots of ways, but that's not taken for granted, especially in the relationship department. the title has nicely underlined the fact that bravery and conscience, while mature, are not the same thing as maturity.
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
I this is one of the strongest arcs ever.
The fight between Spidey and Electro was classic. As was the quips.
Maybe the art is just making me biased.
I this is one of the strongest arcs ever.
The fight between Spidey and Electro was classic. As was the quips.
Maybe the art is just making me biased.
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
I finally read this. It was really good.
The story seems like it's going to be Really Important, and it might actually deliver.
And Immonen is amazing. It really feels like his characters are moving, from MJ running at the beginning to the fantastic Electro fight, which is one of the best action sequences this book has ever had. Compare it to "Ronin" running into the high school, which should've been great but was boring.
This book really has life again, and it's not a conincedence that the focus has shifted back to PETER.
I finally read this. It was really good.
The story seems like it's going to be Really Important, and it might actually deliver.
And Immonen is amazing. It really feels like his characters are moving, from MJ running at the beginning to the fantastic Electro fight, which is one of the best action sequences this book has ever had. Compare it to "Ronin" running into the high school, which should've been great but was boring.
This book really has life again, and it's not a conincedence that the focus has shifted back to PETER.
Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
I'm a little late to the party, but jsut wanted to chime in with how good this was. So good to be getting a good story, and with a meaningful villain.
I really liked the whole "I'm supposed to protect you" "And now I'm protecting you" - great dialog.
"Faaar out - it's naked Electric Guy!" - great line. Bendis does wisecracking Spidey well, and this is another instance of that.
I'm a little confused about Electro - I thought he was like pure electricity or something. How does he get hit? And is he surfing on electricity through the city? And if so, why isn't he moving much much faster? Spider-man shouldn't be able to catch him.
Anyway, great issue.
I'm a little late to the party, but jsut wanted to chime in with how good this was. So good to be getting a good story, and with a meaningful villain.
I really liked the whole "I'm supposed to protect you" "And now I'm protecting you" - great dialog.
"Faaar out - it's naked Electric Guy!" - great line. Bendis does wisecracking Spidey well, and this is another instance of that.
I'm a little confused about Electro - I thought he was like pure electricity or something. How does he get hit? And is he surfing on electricity through the city? And if so, why isn't he moving much much faster? Spider-man shouldn't be able to catch him.
Anyway, great issue.
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Gemini
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
I say a little mix of all three.
mike3717
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
Not too be stupid, but I seem to have missed when Nicj Fry "disappeared" from the ultimate universe. Can anyone tell me in what issue his disappearance is first mentioned?
Not too be stupid, but I seem to have missed when Nicj Fry "disappeared" from the ultimate universe. Can anyone tell me in what issue his disappearance is first mentioned?
Joe Kalicki
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #114 Discussion (With spoilers aye)
Nobody knows yet. It will most likely happen in Ultimate Power, though.
Nobody knows yet. It will most likely happen in Ultimate Power, though.
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Ultimate Spider-Man #115 Discussion *Spoilers*
Each issue gets better and better.
Peter Parker wakes up in SHIELD detention at the Triskelion, at the mercy of Carol Danvers, who's operating the Triskelion due to General Fury's absence. Meanwhile, Norman Osborn is trying to locate his money, as he's still currently on the run, and Kitty Pryde has a study date with Kong. Kitty breaks Peter out. They are stopped by Danvers you can makes them Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. to help stop Osbourne.
The highlight was the Spider-Man - Goblin fight and Spider-Man's taunts.
Each issue gets better and better.
Peter Parker wakes up in SHIELD detention at the Triskelion, at the mercy of Carol Danvers, who's operating the Triskelion due to General Fury's absence. Meanwhile, Norman Osborn is trying to locate his money, as he's still currently on the run, and Kitty Pryde has a study date with Kong. Kitty breaks Peter out. They are stopped by Danvers you can makes them Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. to help stop Osbourne.
The highlight was the Spider-Man - Goblin fight and Spider-Man's taunts.
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mulesandmud
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Re: Ultimate Spider-Man #115 Discussion *Spoilers*
The last page of the issue is the best thing that immonen has ever done. They should use it to teach a class on the word 'cliffhanger'.
The last page of the issue is the best thing that immonen has ever done. They should use it to teach a class on the word 'cliffhanger'.
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