Ultimatum series discussion [spoilers]

[E]

yeah, what a ridiculous shot of Carol Danvers.

That panel sums up why guys read comic books more than girls do.

Just everything about it was as stereotypical as you can get.

The way she was standing, the skin-tight leather body suit, The HUGE bustline, the fact that she had three handguns strapped to her and that she was carrying an assault rifle AND and sub-machine gun.
It made me laugh.

It's 90's Image crap all over again. Awesome.

 

[Grocer Man]

(I originally posted this question in the Ultimates 3 thread, then realized I posted it in the wrong thread entirely. Stupid me.)

There's something about the Triskelion scene that's been bugging me.

The Triskelion is on an island, seeing as a massive tdal wave just hit, the Triskelion should be in pieces.

(I can't remember if the place has force fields. I think they mentioned them during the Liberators invasion back in Miller times*?)

*Heh heh, I made a funny.

 

[Bass]

Well noticed.

 

[-beardoms-]

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Upper-New-York-Bay

The triskelion is in the upper area of the red area. The tidal wave could have come from the river to the west of the island (seeing as it was not done by natural causes) and therefore didn't hit the triskelion.

Or is my logic senseless?

 

[thekendon]

Foreshadowed in the third cover. How did I miss this?

 

[-beardoms-]

This is probably the most active post right now so i'll post it here.

So back to Parkers parents dying in two differing explnations. I just re-read the clone saga and this is something i stumbled upon.

Your father died in a plane crash peter. Wow, you really deluded yourself if you thought that man was your father

That was a quote from doc ock. Now it seems that he is talking about peters cloned father. But what if it has a double meaning. What if the person who died in the plane crash wasn't Parkers dad. Or am i just tring to find an answer to the **** up by Bendis.

 

[Random]

This is probably the most active post right now so i'll post it here.

So back to Parkers parents dying in two differing explnations. I just re-read the clone saga and this is something i stumbled upon.



That was a quote from doc ock. Now it seems that he is talking about peters cloned father. But what if it has a double meaning. What if the person who died in the plane crash wasn't Parkers dad. Or am i just tring to find an answer to the **** up by Bendis.

you're trying to find an answer to the **** up by Bendis. Because I recalled in the game Peter reading a file about his parent's death apparently being cause by the symbiote, though I'm not sure how canon that is

 

[-beardoms-]

I do not belive the game to be canon anymore. I belive it was once canon but i dont now since Bendis has sort of re-written the story.

 

[Random]

I do not belive the game to be canon anymore. I belive it was once canon but i dont now since Bendis has sort of re-written the story.

Yeah I recall hearing he went over it in the comics I'm just not sure if that was changed

 

[-beardoms-]

we will just have to see what Bendis has to say on the subject.

 

[Captain Canuck]

you're trying to find an answer to the **** up by Bendis. Because I recalled in the game Peter reading a file about his parent's death apparently being cause by the symbiote, though I'm not sure how canon that is

okay, so i definitely thought you were wrong about this, but i just watched the ending cinimatic and it turn out you're right. Sorry about that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao1msCS8dj0&feature=related

watch 3:27 - 4:06
Richard Parker tells Eddie Brock Sr to burn the Venom samples
Eddie Brock Sr keeps some
Eddie Brock Sr takes the test tube of venom out of a fridge
Spidey says the three survivers of the crash all reported saying the same thing (shows a picture of Venom leaping away from an explosion)

 

[ultimatedjf]

Slightly off-topic, but I just had to post this link to a hysterical review of the Ultimate Hulk Annual. Spoilers in link.... if anyone even cares anymore.

 

[E]

Slightly off-topic, but I just had to post this link to a hysterical review of the Ultimate Hulk Annual. Spoilers in link.... if anyone even cares anymore.

Spoiler

Want to know why they were fighting? What the main bone of contention was? What they kept talking about?

Are you sure that you want to know?

Okay, okay, I'll tell you what the fight was all about.

Pants. Or, more accurately, Hulk's lack of wearing pants. Zarda, who in her own universe would often just go naked, decides that because humans here wear clothes, and Captain America wants her to act like a regular human being, she will make Hulk wear pants.

Wow. Just....wow.

 

[Gemini]

E you should have warned everyone with this beforehand

 

[Captain Canuck]

question, is there an esiner award category: "Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse?"

wow, that was terrible.

 

[Captain Canuck]

i'm going to call it now:
at the end of Ultimatum Thor and Cap emerge from the netherworld with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.

 

[DIrishB]

i'm going to call it now:
at the end of Ultimatum Thor and Cap emerge from the netherworld with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.

:shock:

I hate Loeb.

 

[Bass]

Indeed.

 

[Joe Kalicki]

Ultimatum is the best work Loeb has done since returning to Marvel.

And you can take that to the bank!

 

[Goodwill]

Ultimatum is the best work Loeb has done since returning to Marvel.

And you can take that to the bank!

So far, I'm enjoying it, minor gripes aside. I hope that you're not being sarcastic or AS sarcastic as everyone else. :-D

 

[Joe Kalicki]

So far, I'm enjoying it, minor gripes aside. I hope that you're not being sarcastic or AS sarcastic as everyone else. :-D

I am being truthful, however the statement is intending to be humorous, since Ultimatum is still so bad, regardless of its relative quality to Ultimate Power, Ultimates 3, Red Hulk, Werewolf Wolverine. . .

 

[Gemini]

No this is worse much worse, it's just made passable by Finch's art, even if he is going gonzo on teh b00bi3s

 

[Joe Kalicki]

No this is worse much worse, it's just made passable by Finch's art, even if he is going gonzo on teh b00bi3s

It will only be worse if all the characters stay dead.

If they all come back it'll be pretty decent.

And I really don't like Finch at all.

 

[Gemini]

It will only be worse if all the characters stay dead.

If they all come back it'll be pretty decent.

And I really don't like Finch at all.

No it would be a gigantic cop out

Finch has been good in the past, when he gets the right subject matter, Moon Knight really was the perfect book for him.

Then there was his Lilith story in Legion of Monster: Satanna that was just beautifully rendered

 

[Joe Kalicki]

No it would be a gigantic cop out

Finch has been good in the past, when he gets the right subject matter, Moon Knight really was the perfect book for him.

Then there was his Lilith story in Legion of Monster: Satanna that was just beautifully rendered

He has Liefeld face-syndrome.

And it's not a cop-out to have a bunch of characters die and bring them all back within the same story. It's called a story.

 

[Gemini]

He has Liefeld face-syndrome.

And it's not a cop-out to have a bunch of characters die and bring them all back within the same story. It's called a story.

no it's a cop-out, using the deaths as nothing more than shock value, it's lazy writing, Textbook Loeb

 

[Joe Kalicki]

no it's a cop-out, using the deaths as nothing more than shock value, it's lazy writing, Textbook Loeb

If the story is "a bunch of characters are killed and there's a fight to bring them back to life," that isn't a cop-out by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[Gemini]

If the story is "a bunch of characters are killed and there's a fight to bring them back to life," that isn't a cop-out by any stretch of the imagination.

You do realize you're making excuse's for Loeb right?

You should be ashamed

 

[J. Agamemnon]

If the story is "a bunch of characters are killed and there's a fight to bring them back to life," that isn't a cop-out by any stretch of the imagination.

WEll it depends on what the story's parameters are. This story was promised to have lasting ramifications to the ultimate universe. I think killing off characters and bringing them back within the same story is somewhat of a copout. Not exactly what Marvel said before which was, "Things get worse!"

 

[Joe Kalicki]

WEll it depends on what the story's parameters are. This story was promised to have lasting ramifications to the ultimate universe. I think killing off characters and bringing them back within the same story is somewhat of a copout. Not exactly what Marvel said before which was, "Things get worse!"

Lasting ramifications doesn't have to mean "everyone dies."

All these characters that died so far are just wasted potential, and I hate to see it.