X-Men Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Revised & Original)

[Pro Bot]

I still don't understand why Earth-10005 isn't treated the same as the Earth-616 designation. To me, Earth-10005's number even being used seems similar enough to the MCU's diverged realities being numbered as "616-??" (or something along those lines) in Loki, which, if anything, suggests that the number is because Deadpool could be from a 10005 reality, not the 10005 reality. A branched timeline that the TVA catalogues as being the same number but a variation of it.

 

[FruityWho50]

My headcanon for the X-Men timelines are

10005:
First Class
Origins Wolverine
X-Men
X2
Last Stand
The Wolverine
The Gifted
Days of Future Past

10005 (Revised):
First Class
Days of Future Past (1973 scenes only)
Apocalypse
Dark Phoenix
Deadpool
Deadpool 2
Days of Future Past (new 2023 ending)
New Mutants
Logan

10005 (TVA Revised):
First Class
Days of Future Past (1973 scenes only)
Apocalypse
Dark Phoenix
Deadpool
Deadpool 2
Days of Future Past (new 2023 ending)
Deadpool and Wolverine

I know there are other revisions to the timeline like cable's original future and Venessa's death which to be fair could still be one and the same timeline. But because in this universe changing the past overrides the present instead of creating branches.

 

[Pro Bot]

If we're going with Deadpool & Wolverine prevents Logan from happening, then yeah.

 

[FruityWho50]

I feel like in the beginning of Deadpool and Wolverine, the TVA created a branch where the events in that film occurred and after they accelerated the decay of the revised timeline due to the time ripper, we had basically nothing, no Fox X-men timeline, it then regenerated with a different anchor being Logan in place of the OG Logan which regenerated the same past events (possibly erasing the OG Logan from the universe to make up for the other Logan) up to the present (Deadpool & Wolverine) and now everything past that point is new territory

 

[Pro Bot]

Okay, I don't mind any of that except changing past events and erasing Fox's Wolverine. That just seems unnecessary, you can have two of the same person in one universe without any issues.

 

[myusernameyes]

Here's what I'm not getting (though the answer might be simpler than I think and I'm just stupid)
If The New Mutants takes place in an overall the same timeline as the other movies, why didn't Colossus mention he has a sister? Or was she already put away before this?

 

[Pro Bot]

Here's what I'm not getting (though the answer might be simpler than I think and I'm just stupid)
If The New Mutants takes place in an overall the same timeline as the other movies, why didn't Colossus mention he has a sister? Or was she already in the already put away before this?

Well, there's quite an age difference.

 

[Pro Bot]

Also, why do people have to mention things for them to be true? I go to work and talk to the people I work with but none of them know I have two older twin brothers about a decade older than me. For the people I know, they might as well not even exist. Why does Colossus have to mention his much younger sister?

 

[myusernameyes]

Well I just assumed it should probably the case

 

[selfishmisery]

I still don't understand why Earth-10005 isn't treated the same as the Earth-616 designation. To me, Earth-10005's number even being used seems similar enough to the MCU's diverged realities being numbered as "616-??" (or something along those lines) in Loki, which, if anything, suggests that the number is because Deadpool could be from a 10005 reality, not the 10005 reality. A branched timeline that the TVA catalogues as being the same number but a variation of it.

My whole issue with the Marvel Database's logic is that even rewritten timelines have a new number.

No official timeline is like "E-10005 Revised" or "E-10005B" - those are PLACEHOLDERS.

 

[selfishmisery]

For instance, any one of the Spider-Verse "B" earths could end up being "Earth-6939843" or whatever somewhere down the road.
I think there's ample evidence for Logan being the future of this new "E-10005"; therefore it's Earth-17315.

We'll see how Doomsday acknowledges this, but I don't see why it would be ignored. It's important information that I think hasn't been revealed to us.

 

[myusernameyes]

My whole issue with the Marvel Database's logic is that even rewritten timelines have a new number.

No official timeline is like "E-10005 Revised" or "E-10005B" - those are PLACEHOLDERS.

Couldn't they just go back to TRN414

 

[selfishmisery]

Couldn't they just go back to TRN414

Admin/Mod egos and bias suggest otherwise.

 

[Regsta]

''After Wade and Logan saved the FoX-Men universe from the Time Ripper, the universe regenerated with Unheroic Logan becoming the FoX-Men Wolverine. The FoX-Men Wolverine was erased, but the events of the past remained the same, only now, the universe "remembers" Unheroic Logan as the one who lived them. The aura of Earth-10005's Wolverine lives on in him, making it feel like he was always the Wolverine of that world. The past is intact, but the future is brand new.''

Also, I have this headcanon: ''Wolverine and older X-23/Laura prevent Xavier's dementia and seizure by giving him early treatment, Beast will create an medicine to Charles, starting in 2024, after the events of DP&W, to not causing the Xavier's incident, since Laura knows about the Weischester's incident of 2028, mentioned in Logan. Also they go after Essex/Transigen organization very early, with X-Men, before 2029, they will also save the young Laura and X-23 children early too. The events of Logan will not happen after the events of Deadpool & Wolverine.''

I will use this headcanon, because will be weird when the X-Men appears in Doomsday with DP&W's Logan, without/instead FoX-Men Wolverine, so if didn't have a explanation, I will use this headcanon.

 

[Regsta]

In Logan, it is stated that no new mutants have been born since 2004, but, in the 2023's ending in Days of Future Past, mutant teens and children are shown who are far too young to have been born in 2004:

Xavier said that he wants to open the school to both mutants and humans in X-Men: Apocalypse. It stands to reason that he did exactly that. Some of those children/teens in the mansion were not mutants but actually humans. In fact, there are still mutants born after 2004 (as seen in DOFP and Deadpool 2), but far fewer were born, almost none after 2004, so practically no more mutants born after 2004, the line ''no new mutants is born in 25 years'' said by Logan, it just being a exaggeration, because very few mutants have being born per year, post-2004.

This make sense? I thought this headcanon/explanation to fix the plot holes

 

[Regsta]

He grew it back.

Xavier's hair loss in X-Men: Apocalypse wasn't permanent. Over the decades following 1983, he experienced some minimal hair regrowth, at the back of his head. However, he consistently kept it shaved. By the time of Logan, because of his dementia, he stopped maintaining his appearance, including shaving his head. That's why he has a bit of hair in Logan. - This my headcanon/explanation.

 

[Pro Bot]

In Logan, it is stated that no new mutants have been born since 2004, but, in the 2023's ending in Days of Future Past, mutant teens and children are shown who are far too young to have been born in 2004:

Xavier said that he wants to open the school to both mutants and humans in X-Men: Apocalypse. It stands to reason that he did exactly that. Some of those children/teens in the mansion were not mutants but actually humans. In fact, there are still mutants born after 2004 (as seen in DOFP and Deadpool 2), but far fewer were born, almost none after 2004, so practically no more mutants born after 2004, the line ''no new mutants is born in 25 years'' said by Logan, it just being a exaggeration, because very few mutants have being born per year, post-2004.

This make sense? I thought this headcanon/explanation to fix the plot holes

I don't think Deadpool 2 proves that, but The New Mutants certainly does.

 

[Regsta]

I don't think Deadpool 2 proves that, but The New Mutants certainly does.

I put Deadpool 2 because of the kids at the Essex Orphanage, they were definitely born after 2004.

 

[Regsta]

I put Deadpool 2 because of the kids at the Essex Orphanage, they were definitely born after 2004.

@Pro Bot So my theory make sense?, with both New Mutants and Deadpool 2 evidence, about the exaggeration of Logan's line about no mutants in 25 years?

 

[Pro Bot]

Yeah, I guess so.

 

[UltimateWhovian7]

That line can be more or less disregarded. Logan was intended to be a standalone film based on the Xmen films so anything they did for world building is relatively redundant. Deadpool and Wolverine retroactively added it to the same continuity (more or less, branches or whatever), so we shouldn't necessarily take it at face value, especially considering DP&W prevents Logan from happening. I don't like Logan being part of the same universe because it ruins the great ending of DoFP. Yes, Logan gets a somewhat happy ending but it ruins the true happy ending that the former film gave us.

 

[UltimateWhovian7]

That line can be more or less disregarded. Logan was intended to be a standalone film based on the Xmen films so anything they did for world building is relatively redundant. Deadpool and Wolverine retroactively added it to the same continuity

This same thing happened with Superman Returns. It was made as an homage to the original Reeve series but became retroactively added to the same continuity. It causes slight problems but they can be generally overlooked because that was not the intention of that piece of work to begin with.

 

[Pro Bot]

That line can be more or less disregarded. Logan was intended to be a standalone film based on the Xmen films so anything they did for world building is relatively redundant. Deadpool and Wolverine retroactively added it to the same continuity (more or less, branches or whatever), so we shouldn't necessarily take it at face value, especially considering DP&W prevents Logan from happening. I don't like Logan being part of the same universe because it ruins the great ending of DoFP. Yes, Logan gets a somewhat happy ending but it ruins the true happy ending that the former film gave us.

James Mangold (the director) has made explicit suggestions that it is set after X-Men: Days of Future Past. Also, we don't know if Deadpool & Wolverine prevented Logan from happening yet.

This same thing happened with Superman Returns. It was made as an homage to the original Reeve series but became retroactively added to the same continuity. It causes slight problems but they can be generally overlooked because that was not the intention of that piece of work to begin with.

Yeah, that I do somewhat agree with.

 

[Specks]

I'm new to this website but I just wanted to share something I've been working on for a while now. This document is a complete day by day breakdown of all 14 X-Men movies (or it will be once I've finished it). As well as attempting to fix every single continuity error I could think of. To do this I had to cheat a little and say certain movies are in separate timelines but I came up with theories for how those timelines were created and how it can still work with the logic set up in DP&W.
Basically my timeline goes like this:

Timeline 1
Origins
X1
X2
X3
The Wolverine
Logan

Timeline 2
First Class
DOFP
Apocalypse
Dark Phoenix
New Mutants

Timeline 3
Deadpool trilogy

I explain all this in immense detail in this document

 

[Specks]

I'm new to this website but I just wanted to share something I've been working on for a while now. This document is a complete day by day breakdown of all 14 X-Men movies (or it will be once I've finished it). As well as attempting to fix every single continuity error I could think of. To do this I had to cheat a little and say certain movies are in separate timelines but I came up with theories for how those timelines were created and how it can still work with the logic set up in DP&W.
Basically my timeline goes like this:

Timeline 1
Origins
X1
X2
X3
The Wolverine
Logan

Timeline 2
First Class
DOFP
Apocalypse
Dark Phoenix
New Mutants

Timeline 3
Deadpool trilogy

I explain all this in immense detail in this document

I have now fully finished this if anyone is interested

 

[Specks]

James Mangold (the director) has made explicit suggestions that it is set after X-Men: Days of Future Past. Also, we don't know if Deadpool & Wolverine prevented Logan from happening yet.


Yeah, that I do somewhat agree with.

why did you guys put Logan in September? I have it there too but I wanna know what your reasoning was.

 

[selfishmisery]

No it was a September date on an evidence bag Boyd Holbrook was looking at after they patched their wounds and saw were the mutant kids where headed towards the film's climax.

 

[Specks]

I still don't understand why Earth-10005 isn't treated the same as the Earth-616 designation. To me, Earth-10005's number even being used seems similar enough to the MCU's diverged realities being numbered as "616-??" (or something along those lines) in Loki, which, if anything, suggests that the number is because Deadpool could be from a 10005 reality, not the 10005 reality. A branched timeline that the TVA catalogues as being the same number but a variation of it.

Yes! This is exactly my theory too. There's even evidence in the movie to support it too.

 

[Specks]

No it was a September date on an evidence bag Boyd Holbrook was looking at after they patched their wounds and saw were the mutant kids where headed towards the film's climax.

Have another look at the bag though, the actual date of collection is 11/5/25 and it was transferred to somewhere on 9/19/25. Even if you ignore the top date and the year, the bottom date still doesn't line up with the fact that the day they had to meet at Eden was a Friday. So best just to ignore this and assume it was a reused bag. I put it in early September because of the corn harvesting season.

 

[Specks]

I found this March 16th date in X2 (top left corner). I used this date to place the second movie in my version of the timeline. X1 has to be early November to avoid it being in the complete dead of winter.

I don't know if anyone here has read the novelisations of the first 2 movies but heres what I found in regards to the timeline. The X1 novel repeatedly refers to the time period as being winter, it also describes Jean as being in her early 30's. The X2 novel refers to the first movie multiple times as having happened 'months ago'. It also said that the night Mystique injects the guard with iron was a Saturday. We know this happened the night before Magneto's prison escape which is where the March 16th date was found. This would therefore make it Sunday March 16th which fits perfectly in 2003.