Civil War series discussion (spoilers)

[Victor Von Doom]

It's VERY interesting if, like me, you love stories containing big glass dome thingees.

The last time a story ended with a glass globe.....the entire thing turned out to be the imagination of retarded boy.

I now want Civil War to end like that....only instead of a retarded boy I want it to be a drawing of Millar holding a baby that strangley resembles Joe Q. And instead of a snow globe....I want it to be the end of a rattler.

Im not sure if I posted this here before...

But despite it being a horrible decision from editorial... Rereading House of M, I've liked it a LOT better than Civil War.

The universe it creates is more interesting, the conflicts are more interesting... I know it didn't pay off, but it works very well as a stand alone event, almost like a What-if? story...

Civil War is well written, but the characterizations are totally off, and unexplained, especially Tony Stark, and overloaded it with plot. Bendis has the absolute opposite problems... he got the characterizations down and totally decompressed it, making it frustrating to read as a monthly.

I'm not sure how well Civil War will stand up to time... while I gaurentee they'll revisit the House of M universe one day.

I agree wholeheartedly.

I would say that the tie-ins are one of the better aspects of Civil War. They've done more characterization in the tie-ins than they have in the series, like FF and Spiderman.

Civil War has changed the dynamic of heroes and the government. The Registration Act seems like the kind of thing that the government would do if there were super powered people in the real world. I respect that they can take a story about such unrealistic things and maintain a sense of reality.

Looking back, one of the most positive aspects of the House of M was that it moved the Marvel Universe away from a mutant-centric universe. One thing that I appreciate about Civil War is that it put all those characters who weren't mutants in focus.

Agreed. To be honest----Civil War involved too many people in order to focus on them all. You needed to have brief characterizations in order to please everyone.

The tie-ins allowed you to get to know the characters better. So the tie-ins......despite how silly or pointless they were DID help. Because without them, all you get is Millar's core title with just a bunch of talking heads and pretty action poses.

 

[Joe Kalicki]

Its and ASM spoiler not nessecarily civil war though a civil war tie in

Spoiler

Irrelevant! No one can resist a spoilerspace! No one!

 

[Issued]

Spoiler

HAHAHAHAHAHAH
I just wanted to write some spoilers.

Civil War didn't suck that bad, c'mon guys we read the ultimate clone saga along with civil war, it's certainly not that bad.

And it gives us hope for the future of the 616 universe, because they nearly ran out of stories if it wasn't for the civil war.

 

[Random]

The story is just over hyped and marvel tried to make it seems more epic than it should

 

[Joe Kalicki]

From Brubaker's interview about "resetting DD," regarding next issue, this is an interesting line about the conclusion of Civil War:

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"And that issue also builds off of the end of Civil War, too, and Matt's new status outside the law."

 

[MaxwellSmart]

From Brubaker's interview about "resetting DD," regarding next issue, this is an interesting line about the conclusion of Civil War:

Spoiler

"And that issue also builds off of the end of Civil War, too, and Matt's new status outside the law."

Do you suppose

Spoiler

"Matt's new status outside the law"

refers to him as a lawyer or a vigilante?

 

[Joe Kalicki]

Do you suppose

Spoiler

"Matt's new status outside the law"

refers to him as a lawyer or a vigilante?

Well, since he specifically mentioned Civil War, I'd say as a vigilante. It seems like a pretty big spoiler, not that anybody alive hasn't already guessed the end of Civil War. All that's left is to see how everything happens.

And how it involves a giant glass globe (Best guess: Mysterio's behind it!).

 

[ProjectX2]

The last panel takes place in an alternate universe, with Elijah Snow and Jakita Wagner peering out from the glass dome into The Bleed. "It's a strange world, let's keep it that way."

It's probably just Tony and Maria discussing how he's the new Director of SHIELD. "Things are about to get a lot worse..."

 

[Zombipanda]

The last panel takes place in an alternate universe, with Elijah Snow and Jakita Wagner peering out from the glass dome into The Bleed. "It's a strange world, let's keep it that way."

It's probably just Tony and Maria discussing how he's the new Director of SHIELD. "Things are about to get a lot worse..."

It's the Monitors.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

It's probably just Tony and Maria discussing how he's the new Director of SHIELD. "Things are about to get a lot worse..."

That's what I assumed. Now that S.H.I.E.L.D's job seems to be getting even bigger....I was expecting them to pull out some huge "Watchtower"-esque station overlooking Earth sometime soon.

With Tony now running SHIELD....I assume he's got some orbiting space station under Stakk Industries that he decides to go ahead and designate as the new HQ.

 

[E]

Let's go easy on the non Civil War spoilers in this thread (even if they may or may not be related).

If something is being spoiled for ASM, even if it's in the Civil War tie-in, it really should go in the ASM thread. Marked or not.

I'm not going to remove the existing spoilers and it's not a huge deal. Just let's cool it.

 

[Ice]

Well, this may be a reason why Cassaday will take longer with Astonishing:

Up at Wizarduniverse.com -- John Cassaday draws Iron Man Fallen Son:Acceptance.
So who is the fallen son and what is Iron Man accepting?

 

[thee great one]

Well, this may be a reason why Cassaday will take longer with Astonishing:

BOOO!!

Planetary,

BOOO!!

 

[Ice]

BOOO!!

Planetary,

BOOO!!

I said "A" reason. Not "the only". :wink:

 

[Joe Kalicki]

BOOO!!

Planetary,

BOOO!!

I think he draws one page of Planetary every Super Bowl Sunday, so we're that much closer now.

 

[Ice]

I think he draws one page of Planetary every Super Bowl Sunday, so we're that much closer now.

Well, he's faster than Hitch!

 

[Joe Kalicki]

Well, he's faster than Hitch!

I believe Hitch finishes a page every February 29th.

 

[Gemini]

I believe Hitch finishes a page every February 29th

which is still faster than Damon Lindelof's writing

 

[Joe Kalicki]

which is still faster than Damon Lindelof's writing

Lindleof will finish one page of dialogue every time Lost is good again.

There, I said it.

 

[Ice]

Lindleof will finish one page of dialogue every time Lost is good again.

There, I said it.

Well, he doesn't write every episode, so that might not work.

 

[Joe Kalicki]

Well, he doesn't write every episode, so that might not work.

Well, Cassady doesn't schedule the Super Bowl and Hitch didn't create the leap year, but you didn't jump on my theories about them!

 

[Ice]

Well, Cassady doesn't schedule the Super Bowl and Hitch didn't create the leap year, but you didn't jump on my theories about them!

That's because when referenced to their work, they actually DO work on every issue. :wink:

And wow. Look at my subnic. Time we all follow it.

 

[Zombipanda]

Lost is still good.....

 

[Ice]

Lost is still good.....

Civil War, too.

 

[SSJmole]

I don't know if is new or deserves it's own thread but I found this http://www.marvel.com/news/-1.766

I know its on the official web site so most of you will of seen it but I think it shows the order of Civil war comics for those whom want to collect it. If it's not in order then its still cool Visual Guide

 

[SSJmole]

Ok so I bought a load of marvel comics today around civil war. Using a check list on the internet of starting with amazing spider-man #529 and I got all up to fantastic 4 #542


cost me a little but I think its worth it as this series seems interesting. However I one tiny question. Why did they bring in the registration act? what comic caused it? and could some one give me a brief synopsis on what lead up to spider-man #529 (when he firsts gets iron spider costume)?

 

[E]

cost me a little but I think its worth it as this series seems interesting. However I one tiny question. Why did they bring in the registration act? what comic caused it?

It's supposed to be a reaction to a culmination of recent events, but the main catalyst was in Civil War #1.

 

[SSJmole]

It's supposed to be a reaction to a culmination of recent events, but the main catalyst was in Civil War #1.

ah cool. Thank you.

 

[ultimatefan420]

i love civil war i cant wait for the end

 

[Gideon Stargrave]

i love civil war i cant wait for the end

:roll:

Well, I think that Millar's doing a good job writing it, and I love McNivens art...but something just feels wrong. Especially issue #6. Which sucked. Cap's line at the end was so weak...and Millar usually writes the best one liners.