Astonishing X-Men discussion (spoilers)

[Ultimate Cap 4 President]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

also, Cyclops isn't going to need goggles for the next arc, but something better happen to his noggin so he loses control again. it's like... the biggest part of his character.

You say that Cyclops isnt gonna need his goggles? Well if this is tru he's gonna be a completely different character... possibly the type of guy that Jean wanted him to be at the end of teh Morrison Arc... more out going and sadly more like wolverine. :cry:

 

[iceman]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

well idk if the series will end like that. what i do know, though, is that the cover for the first issue after all this hellfire nonsense shows him without goggles.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

The whole thing with Cyclops not needing his visor is moot. Continuity-wise, Astonishing takes place before all the Civil War stuff and subsequent tie-ins. So at some point Marvel obviously has to have Whedon work in Cyke needing the visors again.

So the revelation or huge event of this is bogged down by continuity. It's the Gah Lak Tus of the book. Huge event...but because of continuity it lacks the umph.

 

[Ultimate Cap 4 President]

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I just reread Astonishing X-Men number 16 and i just wanted to say that kitty pryde has finally earned her balls in the X-Men books... I mean standing up to emma in the previous issues were cool but when she threatened to solidify her head in the wall... no word can express what i felt but maybe one of these lil' faces on the side can... lets see... ah... this should do... :shock:. Kitty's next victim is gonna be She-Hulk for sure... and that green broad doesnt stand a chance... place your bets now.

 

[Ultimate Houde]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

Did no one else think that since Emma ****ed with Scott's head, his powers may be out of whack, and that's why he doesn't have googles on, his powers simply ain't working like they suppose to?

 

[Foolsfolly]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

If that's possible (and it's fully possible mind you) it will create a small little logical error here.

If a telepath could do that....why didn't Professor Xavier or Jean not do this to him earlier? It's cheaper (come on ruby quarts visor, goggles, and sunglasses have to cost a pretty penny), it's safer, and he feels better about himself.

It's not a terrrible logic hole...just begs asking why not earlier.

 

[Ultimate Houde]

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Well, it gets rid of his mutant power, so that's probably why they didn't do it....

And since when did X-men care about a plot hole, their history is full of them.

Plus, it's only a theory, much like the other ones people have put forth

 

[Random]

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Did no one else think that since Emma ****ed with Scott's head, his powers may be out of whack, and that's why he doesn't have googles on, his powers simply ain't working like they suppose to?

I think the thing with cyclops not being able to control it came from when he parachuted after his parent plane went down. He hit his head on landing damaging the part of his brain that would control his power, so he would actually need brain surgery and a surgen that knows what part of the brain is damage and how to fix it

 

[Foolsfolly]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

Yeah it's just a theory and point X-Books don't care about plot holes anyway.

And Random...yeah. That could work. That should work. They'll never do it, just like Cyke will go back to the visor soon anyway since he has them in Civil War like VvD said.

 

[Dr.Strangefate]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

Or he... you know... figures out how to control them, but continues to wear the vizors just because of the tremendous effort it takes to do so.

Or he wears them because he thinks they're cool.

 

[Random]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

Or he... you know... figures out how to control them, but continues to wear the vizors just because of the tremendous effort it takes to do so.

Or he wears them because he thinks they're cool.

Or maybe because it can focus the beam more and he's used them so much, training to use eye lids would be difficult since he's so used to it

 

[thee great one]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

what the **** happened? Why is there two Emma's? What is in that case?

This book is genius.

 

[MaxwellSmart]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

I think the thing with cyclops not being able to control it came from when he parachuted after his parent plane went down. He hit his head on landing damaging the part of his brain that would control his power, so he would actually need brain surgery and a surgen that knows what part of the brain is damage and how to fix it

The parachute thing has historically been why he couldn't control his powers. Whedon introduced the idea that the reason he couldn't was because after the accident he chose to never be able to control it. He chose to because the visor created a crutch that made it impossible for him to be an out of control person.

Emma unlocked the part of his mind that was preventing it from happening. The telepathic process that unlocked his control also trapped him in his own mind. At this rate, I project that he's going to come out of it just in time to save Kitty.

 

[Hibiki]

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hmm, who the hell is WHite Queen?

 

[roguefan]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

White Queen is Emma Frost's alter ego from her Hellfire days. Unless you mean who is the new White Queen - then I dont know...

 

[Victor Von Doom]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

hmm, who the hell is WHite Queen?

From now on....no one should be allowed to ask who such and such is. It's just lame and dumb.

In the time you spend waiting for someone to answer--you could've gone to Marvel's Bios page or Wikipedia'd the answer.

This isn't just at Hibiki directly. This goes for everyone.



Anyways.....everyone knows its Xorn in the box. :lol:

 

[Hibiki]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

From now on....no one should be allowed to ask who such and such is. It's just lame and dumb.

In the time you spend waiting for someone to answer--you could've gone to Marvel's Bios page or Wikipedia'd the answer.

This isn't just at Hibiki directly. This goes for everyone.



Anyways.....everyone knows its Xorn in the box. :lol:

Sounds like a ripoff fastfood restaurant. And it feels like it's directly towards me. But I will take the advice and just take it as you don't know.

 

[Victor Von Doom]

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Sounds like a ripoff fastfood restaurant. And it feels like it's directly towards me. But I will take the advice and just take it as you don't know.

Well it's not directed at you so don't take it as such. Or do. It's your bag.


And silly little girl....not only do I know who White Queen is....I know who Black Queen is as well. You see my X-Men knowledge extends past whatever was shown to me on Saturday morning TV. :wink:

 

[thee great one]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

Is that suppose to be Emma?

I took it has it was suppose to be another Emma in her White Queen days.

 

[Hibiki]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

Well it's not directed at you so don't take it as such. Or do. It's your bag.


And silly little girl....not only do I know who White Queen is....I know who Black Queen is as well. You see my X-Men knowledge extends past whatever was shown to me on Saturday morning TV. :wink:

hahaha, I checked and I think it's some chick named Opul Lun. Has something to do with an alternate earth and Captain Britain and some other ****. Hurts my brain. But yeah, I'm satisfied.

 

[Caduceus]

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Yeah, thats back from the Uncanny run...possibly just before HoM, I don't recall offhand. Sat-yr-nin or Satyrnine or whichever version it was that survived pretended to be Brian Braddock's girlfriend Courtney Ross, but is really evil. May also be a robot. Alternate versions are good. Very confusing, not important in the scheme of things. Really.

 

[E]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

Can someone post a summary of Astonishing X-Men #17? I'm not sure I completely understood it.

 

[MaxwellSmart]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

Recap:

It starts out with the illusion that Cassandra Nova projected into Kitty's mind. Kitty's just delivered Peter's baby, and all the X-Men are admiring the baby. Time jump, the baby is now 18 months old. The X-Men, including Peter, take the baby from Kitty. Kitty holds Peter hostage and demands that he tell her where her son is. Peter tells her he's in a box in the basement.

On board the SWORD space station, Agent Brand is discussing the situation at the institute. Then they get a visual on the Danger and Ord via a mole. The mole wants to engage Danger and Ord. The mole is revealed to be... Lockheed.

Back at the Xavier Institute, Wolverine wakes up Hisako. Blindfold wakes up Colossus and gives him his "orders." Beast is eating a deer. Emma and Cassandra argue about how the mission should be run. Kitty manages to break into the box...

Danger breaks into the mansion. The attack knocks Wolverine out of it and he's back. Ord is pissed because they haven't found Colossus. Kitty thinks she rescued he son when in fact she took what looks like an egg sack out of the box. The Hellfire club shows up and Cassandra implies that she is somehow trapped in the egg sack thing. She says she going to take Kitty's body. Out of nowhere Emma gets shot three times by... Scott.

 

[Hibiki]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

Isn't the "egg" Cassandra Nova's shot up body from Morrison's run?

 

[MaxwellSmart]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

Isn't the "egg" Cassandra Nova's shot up body from Morrison's run?

Quite possibly. I didn't read it.

 

[Caduceus]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

Isn't the "egg" Cassandra Nova's shot up body from Morrison's run?

Her brain in Stuff's body, if I recall correctly, but yeah. It helps if you don't think about that part, and just pretend it's her.

 

[E]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

Many thanks Maxwell...

The egg was what was confusing me. Actually it looked more like a worm or grub or something...weird.

 

[Hibiki]

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Many thanks Maxwell...

The egg was what was confusing me. Actually it looked more like a worm or grub or something...weird.

Didn't it? Like a huge booger moony hawked out. Then he tricked Kitty into hugging it. Therefore the booger is moony! :lol:

 

[thee great one]

Re: Astonishing X-Men - series discussion (spoilers)

Not to metion that Brand was speaking an alien language to Lockheed and he talked back.

I love Astonishing. It's all so great.

 

[MaxwellSmart]

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Not to metion that Brand was speaking an alien language to Lockheed and he talked back.

I love Astonishing. It's all so great.

Well, he is an alien. He can speak English, but I'm sure he prefers to speak his native language when he does speak.