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I don't think Quickie and Wand could possibly be traitors, but i think they may be out of Ultimates 3...i just hope they go back to X-men or something, i hate when characters go to the limbo...
Wizard announces Jeph Loeb and Joe Madureira on Ultimates 3
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I'm trying to hold off any reaction to the news of the team, because a) I'm not familiar with Loeb's work and b) I think a bad writer (assuming the worst) can make good stories. I was a little apprehensive about Joe Mad on art duty, but I think I agree with whomever said it a few pages back that I'm not sure I want a Hitch wannabe. I would prefer something more realistic, but based on those scans (thanks to everyone involved for posting those) it looks like it might not be too bad. The colorist could be the deal-breaker here.
Bass you have me freaked out with the Joe Mad delay/fall off the face of Earth stuff. Like we need more of that.
So...so far it *looks* OK. I'll pick up the Wizard in the next couple days here to see what's going on with Loeb.
Bass you have me freaked out with the Joe Mad delay/fall off the face of Earth stuff. Like we need more of that.
So...so far it *looks* OK. I'll pick up the Wizard in the next couple days here to see what's going on with Loeb.
Guijllons
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Hmm, just saw the scans of MAD's Ultimates work.
Still don't like it.
Cheap.
Still don't like it.
Cheap.
Fuzzy Birds
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Now that is nice. I knew the colours would make a big difference.
That splash of Cap throwing his shield is particularly striking.
My optimism factor on this one just went up a few notches. Ah who am I kidding? I'm hyped!
That splash of Cap throwing his shield is particularly striking.
My optimism factor on this one just went up a few notches. Ah who am I kidding? I'm hyped!
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Very good point.Fuzzy Birds said:
Too bad I hate Joe Madureira.
So Bass, if you hate Jeph Loeb, maybe we can team up and kick both their arses and subject them to the torture of Ogrimna the pagan demigoddess of six-breasted transexual hookers.
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Good stuff, Ice. Thanks. From what they said about the characters I'm not hating what's comin.icemastertron said:....Here they are:
Captain America: "In any universe, he's Batman-cool," says Loeb. "He's the natural leader, but he's also a man out of time. There's an awful lot of something being held back in that man--and I want to be there when it snaps."
Thor: "I love what Mark did here. Loki messing with everyone's head, the idea that the world thinks he's nuts, but we know he isn't. I don't think we've seen the extent of his power--and that is a truly frightning thing."
Hulk: "Ah...well, he's going to be reckoned with, isn't he?" laughs Loeb. "The world think he's dead. He eats people. And he's naked most of the time. Mark is so wonderfully twisted! Big Hulk plans."
Iron Man: "If Cap is Batman, in that emotionally cut-off way, then Tony is Superman--just out there with all his emotions. Because of what happened to my son, the brain tumor storyline will be very important, but not a downer."
Wasp: "I like Jan when she's strong and out there, front and center. [Her life's] just ripe for her to make something of herself. I'm very senstive to battered-wife syndrome, and I'd like Jan to start making decisions that don't involve a man."
Giant Man: "I thought that solo issue with Hank Pym and the Defenders was the most depressing and wonderful story I've read all year," raves Loeb. "It was just so real. Hank's story is far from over."
Black Widow:
"How hot is she? I love the whole Tony thing. Another character who can really get revved up into a force to be reckoned with. More and more I see these characters just on this side of madness, this side of danger--and yet, still very heroic."
*Pictures thanks to DB's help.
About the art. I might as well do the 180 like GMaster. It's not as Mangaish as it could be and it's pretty damn good.
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Guijllons said:
What is wrong with you? Were you severly abused as a child? I'm not a fan of Mad's work either, but I DID like those sketches quite a bit. It seems just right, not too similar to Hitch's, not too different. And like I said, he seems to be toning down the Manga-influence of his previous work. His Hulk is awesome, much better than Lienel Yu's version anyway (from the upcoming Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine mini). Least in my opinion, and you are entitled to yours...but seriously, whats wrong with you?
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marvelman said:
His family is dead. Unless he plans on hanging out at the cemetary a lot, this would be kind of hard to do. Unless you meant it in some fruity spiritual sense.
I agree though, I really hoped Hawkeye would've stayed a part of the team. He's one of my personal favorite Ultimate characters.
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ourchair said:
As much as I want to... I can't. I really, really like his work.
That said, take the interview with a pinch of salt. Considering Loeb and Mad are on U3, they must know U2's climax pretty much and be talking to Hitllar. As a result, it's more than likely anything they say has been 'vetted' so as not to spoil U2. Hawkeye may be alive... or blinded. Hulk may still return. Loki may get resolved.
We'll see...
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TheManWithoutFear said:
Exactly what I thought after seeing those sketches. I really like it, its a nice change from Hitch's style, without going too far. Really the only thing I'm still unsure about is Loeb's ability as a writer for this title, but I have faith (possibly misguided and unfounded, but its there) Volume 3 will at the very least be a fun read, especially with Mad's artwork.
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They do. Well, at least Loeb. He said he knows what happens which helped figure out how to continue on, and what not. They have talked to each other about it, and of course, Marvel, too.Bass said:
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Bass said:
Good points, Bass. I could live with Hawkeye dying, but it would be nice to see him stick around, however it might be kind of anti-climactic.
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icemastertron said:
Yeah, it would be difficult to continue the story without knowing what came before. Apparently only Card does that...
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About all the Hawkeye being alive/dead posts,surprise,etc.........did the guy getting shot point blank in the head not give it away? :twisted:
Stop with the surprise.......please.....
Stop with the surprise.......please.....
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Johnny Bravo said:
Not unless super-fast Quicksilver came and saved him...exactly like he did for Cap at the beginning of that same issue.
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This is a question for E or Ice. As I am writing this, this thread has 195 replies. Is this a record for a discussion thread?
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UltimateE said:
I think the "Ask a stupid question. get a stupid answer" thread had WAY more than that, and I'm sure that isn't a record either...
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The art is fine it's just the STORY I want it to be the same ultimates team we all know and love or i'm not getting it!!!! :cry:
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I can handle a different story, a different team. I would like a different Ultimates. Just as long as it isn't a general run of the mill superhero book.a fan said:
And I have to say this about Manga inspired artwork. Anime is something western kids copy, they do it to draw like cartoons. What they don't do is see the world and interpret it their own way, some do it realistically like hitch, some use an energy like Immonen. I just do not see the point of copying a copy?
In Japan, Anime is different, it's a visual language, as is their own written language. The characters are used more like road signs than interpretations.
Western Anime is always going to be nothing more than a copy of a copy and totally misses the point of the Japanese way of doing things, and the western way of doing things.
I think MAD is arse.
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Because they are ambiguous characters and probably too difficult to write as straight superheroes.slimjim said:
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Guijllons said:
Right back at ya!
...got to find out wat the hell means ambiguous....
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Guijllons said:
Huh? How do you know Mad hasn't done all the research into the Japanese visual language that you cite and had his style be developed that way?
You seem more against non-Japanese doing what you consider to be Japanese art, than the actual merit of the art itself.
Mad's art is very cartoony, but not very Manga-like. Mad has the ENERGY of a Manga comic, but not the artistic style and renderings. His worlds are drawn in a far more realisitcally exaggerated fashion like classic superheroes. He's not "Anime-inspiried" but rather an effective blend of both Anime/Manga AND classic Neal Adams style superheroes. This is why he isn't a copy - he is distinctive. But because we are so used to the classic exaggerated superhero we only notice the bizarre Manga influence, but his work successfully combines the two without copying either.
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Anyone remember in Wizard when they said that in #5 Iron Man's armour would be stolen by China?
Well I read #5 again, and I'm pretty sure the Hulk isn't the Chinese government.
Sooooo... maybe Iron Man was replaced with Cap and China's gonna steal him. But more importantly, anything Loeb says here is subject...
... I dunno why I'm posting this, I think I already said this.
Eh.
Well I read #5 again, and I'm pretty sure the Hulk isn't the Chinese government.
Sooooo... maybe Iron Man was replaced with Cap and China's gonna steal him. But more importantly, anything Loeb says here is subject...
... I dunno why I'm posting this, I think I already said this.
Eh.
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a fan said:
??? I take it you tend to order the same thing everytime you go out to eat...and from the news in the recent Wzard, with the exception of Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, and possibly Nick Fury, it WILL be the same team. And with the scheduled line-up of Ultimates 3, it'll be a lot closer to the original 616 Avengers (which may or may not be a bad thing).
